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How to help prevent war on Iraq (seriously)

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Originally posted by TEE_rase_war

quik solution:

get rid of america, the iraq will take care of itself...

 

sure .. ill just tell the magik wizard to do that ..hocus pocus..

 

quicker solution .. ride a bike.. save the U.S

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Guest DATSTFC

The attitude of a lot of you people makes me want to puke. I hope one day you will all be happy when your freedoms are gone. Why the fuck would anyone want to defend that scumbag and his country. Thats the problem with you hippie fucks thats the problem with this country we have become soft. Think about it. What if we along with the other allies didn't do any thing about Hitler Or Stalin hmmmmmmm? And the list goes on I think you catch the idea. Im not sayin drop a H bomb on that country no sense in killing the innocent. Just take out the shitheads. And my last point is for those I hate America Assholes You dont Like it pack your bags and leave Its nice to have that freedom to do so RIGHT!

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war

 

Although I disagree with datsdfc this is a point in time that needs to be taken very seriously. I am sure some little shit is going to fill these pages with BS as some already have. There is a rising level impatientence in the world today. DATSDFC, Germany, USSR, Serievo, IRAQ(in the gulf war) were all aggresors. Do you people even phathom what will happen if we pull the surrounding countries into war. Another question to pick your brain, take this seriously, what happens when suddam is gone. You said just get rid of the shitheads but do you really believe the war torn people, or the US w/o backing from the UN can stabalize IRAQ and it's surrounding countries. What is going to keep us from opening up a lawless void in the middle east. I will hold on to my constitutional rights until my dying breath and I do believe that the US can do wonderfull things for people all over the world, but how do you justify us singlehandedly waving our iron sword of freedome around the globe. Sure war looks cool on TV but there is no light side to it. Take the picture on an earlier post of the APC hitting the land mine. Sure there is an element of awa that makes you go COOL but would you react the same if you saw the same happening to our soldiers.

The elements of freedome and good have become blinded by ignorance and capitolism. The politics of today MAKE ME SICK. Only 24 or 25 representatives voted against bush. Only 25 of the men and women who are supposed to be our closest link to the federal govt stood up and protested the up and coming hell we are going to cause. Any man that sais he will suport the war ask yourself this. Would you be willing to give up your personal rights as a citizen and enlist or be drafted into the military and spend your time picking up the broken world after our govt rages it's battles. Freedome needs to be preserved and protected all over the world but an american offensive on IRAQ will not move us forward, only backwards into more conflict.

-PEACE-

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it is so easy to say that saddam is 'evil' and must be ousted..

 

what about the post-war problems???

 

we haven't even handled afghanistan..

 

not to mention...how can we kill saddam IF WE CANNOT FIND HIM??

 

he has twice the resources of bin laden...WHO HAS YET TO BE CAPTURED

 

the u.s. needs to tackle one foreign policy issue at a time..

 

i never said i was an anti-war hippie who is defending saddam

i just want concrete evidence of what some politicians are force feeding us..

he doesn't have WMD, smallpox, or nuclear warheads..

(all of which the u.s. posseses)

we are not subject to u.n. inspections, and now we want to become an empire by invading another country?!

 

that is not freedom..that is a dictatorship bent on world domination..

 

i am intelligent enough to have foresight beyond "he sucks, lets kill him"

 

unfortunately, out government does not share that philosophy of forethought, strategy, planning, and patience with the objective of aiding all of humanity, not simply the congressmen up for election and a son bent on revenge

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First of all Im not trying to say that war is cool it never is, that wasn t the point I was trying to make. Yeah I know I vent and get pissed but thats how I am. OH and so you think he doesnt have nukes or smallpox and all shit fine. Why make it a point like we are a bad country because we do! Were not usin it on our own people. Umm how many of his own people did Saddam use chemicals on! Come on wake up and smell the coffee while you still can or should I say Wake up and smell the Napalm.

Maybe I stand behind my country to much oh well thats how I am! Maybe we should just kick back stay out of world affairs and let them blow each other up if we dont want to look like a dictatorship bent on world domination. Ah whatever Peace DATSTFC

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educate yourself

 

at aberdeen proving grounds, not less than thirty years ago, THE US GOVERNMENT TESTED BIOLOGICAL AGENTS ON THEIR OWN SOLDIERS

 

apparently, you are the one who needs to wake up

 

the united states is not the glorious bastion of freedom many seem to think it is

 

have you also forgetten that the us tested nuclear radiation effects on u.s. soldiers in the 50's???

 

don't you realize that we as a country do the same shit as far as military preparedness?!

 

never did i say we should "kick back" or stay out of it..

 

read the post!!

 

it says we have a huge mess that we made in afghanistan to clean up

 

and what about india/pakistan

and israel/palestine

 

that region CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER WAR

 

is it worth blowing that whole region of the globe into conflict so that dubya can try and get the guy "who tried to kill his dad" ?!!!

 

is it worth world war III???

 

 

and who will we replace saddam with?

the us military?!

 

make it another vietnam why don't we?!

send a million innocent us teenagers of to iraq WITH NO CLEAR OBJECTIVE

 

oust saddam..okay, if we accomplish that

(where is bin laden?? whre is mullah omar?!!)

then what??

dick cheney becomes leader of iraq??

 

 

wake up and realize what kind of government we have

and that it is turning this country TO SHIT

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I wasnt saying that you said we should kick back and let em blow each other up. You never said that. That was my own idea If we shouldnt get involved fine Fuck em let the animals kill each other!!!! Cause thats all they will end up doing anyway.

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oh, yeah...i forgot those people were all animals

we are so much better than them:rolleyes:

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Yeah they are animals any terrorist assholes or people who wanna kill each other over religion or a little strip land is a animal in my book.:D

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yeah, and all the citizens of middle eastern countries are terrorists and zealots..

 

:rolleyes:

 

you are a great example of why this country is sucking it on the daily

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DID I EVER SAY THAT DID I SAY THAT ALL THE PEOPLE ARE TERRORISTS NO I DIDNT IN MY ORIGINAL POST I SAID NOT TO DROP AN H BOMB ON THOSE COUNTRIES WHY KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE. IF I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL TERRORISTS I WOULD SAY SCREW EM

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DATSTFC

 

I like this guy. He's somewhat irrational ("I stand behind my country too much ... I vent and get pissed, but thats how I am), responds accordingly to the systems of patriotic propaganda he's been exposed to ("Its nice to have that freedom ... we have become soft"), suggests action without contributing a careful consideration of the potential outcome ("Just take out the shitheads"), quickly generalizes people and brushes them into a convenient category that aims to undermine their belief system ("you hippie fucks"), and prefers abandonment of an issue rather than a progressive, reformative effort towards its ultimate resolution ("you dont Like it, pack your bags and leave").

 

In my opinion, we need more decisive thinkers like this on board the team with Uncle Sam. Without people like DATSTFC, the very system of carefully dispersed wealth, class seperatism, symbolic democracy, over-development, filtered persuasion, racist policy-making, elite control, annihilation, genocide, etc., that have helped make this most powerful of Dominant Western Nations what it is today simply wouldn't hold its own weight.

 

Personally, I say fuck Saddam, his starving little nation of dimwits, his supposed arsenal of destructive weapons, his race of moronic, inferior, mustache-weilding camel-jockeys, and whatever collection of Iraqi porn he might possess. We need to unite as a nation and invade that shithole before there aren't any natural resources left for us to squander--and what's more important, before there exists no trace of an actual bad guy to be trumpeted forth as a mascot for the mobilization of popular support against while duelly diverting attention from underlying domestic issues that may be more significant. Quickly! Fuck those towel-heads!

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:D :D :D :D :D :D THIS IS GOOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I LOVE MAKING PEOPLE CRAZY

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YES MAYBE I AM CRAZY IN MY OWN LITTLE WAY AH SCREW IT WHY DID I GET INVOLVED IN A POLITICAL CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR THE OTHER TEAM. YOU HAVE YOUR VIEWS I HAVE MINE I AM THE BRAIN WASHED PATRIOT YOU GUYS SOUND LIKE BRAIN WASHED LIBERALS HEH WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT. AT LEAST IN THIS COUNTRY WE DO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO THINK AND SAY THEASE THINGS.

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come on now

look how upset you are

 

we were having a nice little debate and you degenerated into self-depracating in caps-lock

 

 

i guess we will agree on one thing: at least we can say whatever the fuck we want...

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America summerized: an experiment in finding out what shit floats and what does not, America is based on rascism, genocide, slavery all these fucked up things, its still fucked up, the rich get richer the poor get poorer, the economy is on a downward slide, America is the only capitalist county (or close to it) in the world, europe is primarily socailist, america is shifting that way (i think) what does this have to do with Saddam? NOTHING, the govt wants him whacked because he has oil, and lots of it, If he was sitting on a plot of land that had nothing but clay underneath it the u.s. would say fuck it, who cares, saddam did not bring down the towers, 18 suicidal maniacs did, tim mcviegh (one man)killed 350, the towers killed 2800, (2 people were friends of mine R.I.P). Were they bankrolled by saddam? who the fuck really knows

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America summerized: an experiment in finding out what shit floats and what does not, America is based on rascism, genocide, slavery all these fucked up things, its still fucked up, the rich get richer the poor get poorer, the economy is on a downward slide, America is the only capitalist country (or close to it) in the world, europe is primarily socailist, america is shifting that way (i think) what does this have to do with Saddam? NOTHING, the govt wants him whacked because he has oil, and lots of it, If he was sitting on a plot of land that had nothing but clay underneath it the u.s. would say fuck it, who cares, saddam did not bring down the towers, 18 suicidal maniacs did, tim mcviegh (one man)killed 350, the towers killed 2800, (2 people were friends of mine R.I.P). Were they bankrolled by saddam? who the fuck really knows

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OOPS I posted it twice, i don't think my opinion is worth this much time

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