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Guest FACE WON

YOUR THE ONES WHO CANT TAKE OUTSIDE CRITICISM.....YOU ALL NEED TO GROW UP....IT'S JUST A GOD DAMN OPPINON ON A MESSAGE BOARD A FREAKIN MESSAGEBOARD????WHY GET SO UPSET?I GOT SOME OLD ASS GRAFF ARTIST SETTIN ME STRAIGHT....STOP LIVIN IN THE PAST BUDDY THE 80S ARE OVER..SHUT UP...TO EVERY ONE ELSE YOUR CITY IS NO LONGER "THE MECCA" AND YOUR GRAFF JUST WONT EVOLVE...IT REALLY IS TOO BAD... HISTORY LESSON FROM MR.DASH HIMSELF WHAT A FREAKIN JOKE!BY THE WAY M.J. WAS A DECENT PLAYER JUST NOT A GREAT ONE....NOW DONT GET TOO UPSET..ITS JUST AN OPPINON.....

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Guest Dusty Lipschitz
Originally posted by FACE WON

i voiced my oppinon you didnt like it..what else can i say,

 

 

no, your opinion is one thing. agree or disagree with something. like it or not. fine. thats not what people have beef with. its your ignorance and lack of respect. you would never pop that junk to dash's face. internet thug. and realize that the man has done more for graf then you will ever be able to do, in the wettest of your dreams. recognize.

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To the Asshole Up In Here

 

Face-

Hmmm. I really hoped you would actually think before replying, but oh well.

 

I will waste no more time on you except to correct your spelling:

It's Opinion, not Oppinon.

Shouldn't a grown man know that by now?

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Guest FACE WON

Re: To the Asshole Up In Here

 

Originally posted by your cousin

Face-

Hmmm. I really hoped you would actually think before replying, but oh well.

 

I will waste no more time on you except to correct your spelling:

It's Opinion, not Oppinon.

Shouldn't a grown man know that by now?

RIGHT ON BROTHA GOOD LOOKIN OUT ON THE SPELLIN TIP YO....SEE I CAN BE A WIGGER TOO..

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face won isn't 25. no way. he's probably 13, and will realize one day that he was wrong, and then change what he writes.

 

 

 

Yeah, fuck all those WWII vets! They're either all DEAD or old GEEZERS! HAHA! They suck, 'cuz those rifles they used were ugly, and so were their helmets! I don't give a fuck if they helped save the world! They're from back then, and don't need to be respected! It's my opinion, and I'll say it to their face next time I hit the Legionnaires' Club!

 

 

 

 

 

no disrespect to the vets. I love them all for their sacrifices.

 

 

faec won - you need to join the retard progra, at your grade school.

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Originally posted by duh-rye-won

but being into graff and saying your not into ja, vfr or skuf.... its like saying.... well, i dont know what its like saying. but it just aint right.

 

That's awesome. That's one of the best quotes I've read in here.

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Re: Re: This goes out to the Asshole up in here...

 

Originally posted by FACE WON

grow up KOOL DASH cause you dont impress me.and no ive never heard of ya!!!peace......

 

If you've never heard of DASH, then you've got some learnin' to do. Because if you've never heard of him, then you've never heard of his crews, and if you've never heard of his crews, then you don't know shit about shit and you shouldn't offer up your opinion about a goddamned thing on here...

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silly little cunt

 

Veefer hits unbuffable semi invisible spots,bombing like that requires time and effort..destruction interests me more than legal shit anyway so im biased ..but vfr is undeniably great !!!!!bump

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Guest HSKillers
Originally posted by FACE WON

YOUR THE ONES WHO CANT TAKE OUTSIDE CRITICISM.....YOU ALL NEED TO GROW UP....IT'S JUST A GOD DAMN OPPINON ON A MESSAGE BOARD A FREAKIN MESSAGEBOARD????WHY GET SO UPSET?I GOT SOME OLD ASS GRAFF ARTIST SETTIN ME STRAIGHT....STOP LIVIN IN THE PAST BUDDY THE 80S ARE OVER..SHUT UP...TO EVERY ONE ELSE YOUR CITY IS NO LONGER "THE MECCA" AND YOUR GRAFF JUST WONT EVOLVE...IT REALLY IS TOO BAD... HISTORY LESSON FROM MR.DASH HIMSELF WHAT A FREAKIN JOKE!BY THE WAY M.J. WAS A DECENT PLAYER JUST NOT A GREAT ONE....NOW DONT GET TOO UPSET..ITS JUST AN OPPINON.....

 

Yo Face it seems as if u dont understand the difference between opinion and fact:

Definitions

Fact:an actual occurence

-VFR is up a lot...this is "an actual occurence" ..therefor at least u should respect dedication and quantity and not diss the guy.

Opinion:A view formed in the mind about a paticular matter

-U have a view in ur mind that u dont like his style, that dosnt give u an excuse to come on here and say he sucks. U may say "Well everyone else does it to other writers", well this is true but I dont beleive theres any shit talking on Kings and I beleive that many would say that

VFR has king status by now.

 

One more thing is you spew out all these odd opinions about NYC wen VFR is one writer in NYC. U saying that theres just a bunch of sloppy throwies and not much good stuff in NYC is bullshit. Wat about all the people in 5MH, YKK, KD, IRAK, BTM, and at least 50 more that put up ill shit. The thing about throwies is its all about graffitit asthetic, if u understand graff and u know good graff then u know that most of the hardcore street bombers in nyc have style, and if u knew ur graff u would see this. And please dont say some shit like"But who can tell me wat good graff is" cause thats bullshit. Even in the world of fine arts there is asthetic and thats y they have art critics, becuase the average joe dosnt know wat good art is, and u have the understanding, it seems, of the average joe wen looking at bombing. Id even venture to say that a trained graff eye would rather see a good bomb than a FX wall, which further prooves my point that u have no eye, this is because bombs are basically style consolidated into shapes while pieces take so much more, colors, many more lines, 3d's, backgrounds, etc, to convey that same amount of style....Also NYC is still the mecca of graff in the world. No where else in the world are there so many writers concentrated in one area, and nowhere in the world is there the concentration of so much graff everywhere, there maybe better writers somewhere else but, they call it the mecca cause its were it all started and its got a high concentration of graff. Just as Mecca has a high concentration of muslims, it dosnt mean because theres a city somewhere with a growing muslim poulation were all going to call it the new Mecca and pray towards it, when mecca is used as a metaphor it is for a place where something was started in the past and people migrate back to see or live the culture, subculture, etc that has been sustained there since its start....

 

So anyway if u knew graff u'd know not to talk shit on VFR becasue hes been around for a long time, hes killed shit, and he does good graff and no one can deny him that, hes got undeniable style. And NYC will always be the Mecca of graff........

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Originally posted by HSKillers

trained graff eye would rather see a good bomb than a FX wall

 

i would much rather see street bombing than

legal productions.

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Originally posted by FACE WON

im not from new york...got it?

 

Well, that explains A LOT. Just because you didn't see VFR in one of your fancy graffiti magazines it doesn't give you right to determine who's king of some city you're not even from. There's facts and there's opinions... got it?

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Re: Re: This goes out to the Asshole up in here...

 

Originally posted by FACE WON

grow up KOOL DASH cause you dont impress me.and no ive never heard of ya!!!peace......

never heard of DASH FC?, and you call yourself a 'graffiti writer'?, sad.....very sad...

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if he lived in any other city he would be called a toy with no style but since he lives in NewYork its a rugged/really nice style and he's a king..

 

yeah he bombs harder then i and most of you ever will.. but what a fucking toy

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Guest duh-rye-won

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

Originally posted by madbomber

if he lived in any other city he would be called a toy with no style but since he lives in NewYork its a rugged/really nice style and he's a king..

 

yeah he bombs harder then i and most of you ever will.. but what a fucking toy

 

no style?!?!?!?!?! VFR is fucking exploding with style. what in the fuck are you talking about? are we all looking at the same flix?!?!?! if VFR is toy, i'm just curious to know who you think some good bombers are?

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to a certain extent thats true whiskeybar....but in some ways people have to learn, me included, that there are heads that know and that there are heads that dont, and there are heads that wont....if they wanna learn, then they will, if they dont, then they wont....all of you are right about what you said....unfortunately though its contributed more to the digression of this thread then our unfortunate friend face has....

 

believe me, im as irked and befuddled by his stance as the next guy, but im not gonna waste my breath on someone who doesnt even know how to breathe....people gotta learn when they are ready, all you can do i supply the flicks and facts......

 

although ive certainly gone on my fair share of rants, when it gets the best of me, but people like face are best ignored for their ignorance...be content that you know the deal.......

 

you can lead a man to rusto, but that dont make him a writer.......

 

so so so bored at work......sorry about the soap box

 

back to the flicks

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Guest FACE WON

YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TOO CHILL,NOT EVERYONE IS ON NY'S JOCK.BUT EVERY NEW YORKER I RUN INTO SEEMS TO THINK THAT WE ARE...YOU GIVE GUYS LIKE SCANT PROPS AND SAY THAT DUDES A RAW BOMBER,ALL I GOT TO SAY IS "ADJUST YOUR EYES"YEAH VEEFER CAN TAG I SAID NOTHIN ABOUT HIS TAG ITS THAT STUPID ASS R THAT LOOKS LIKE AN A...NO IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE AN R STOP KIDDING YOURSELVES....ITS TOY SHIT,SO WHAT HES STUPID ENOUGH TO BOMB EVERY CORNER OF NY...BIG DEAL!ALL OF YOU ARE WHAT YOU GUYS LIKE TO CALL "DICKRIDERS" YOU GUYS SWEAT THIS GUY SO HARD ITS FUNNY...AND THEN YOU GUYS DECIDE THAT I MUST BE TOY CAUSE I DONT KEEP UP WITH DASH..IVE SEEN HIS WORK AND ITS SO SO...I MEAN I LOOKED AT IT IN MY FANCY GRAFFITI MAGZ AT HOME....I GUESS SINCE I DIDNT SAY ITS HOT THAT MAKES ME A GAY TOY?RIGHT???WELL THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST ON THIS PLAYED OUT THREAD THAT I RUINED....SORRY GUYS...ENJOY AND DONT GET TOO UPSET.....

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Face won- you voiced your opinion, thats fine, now move on.. If you dont feel vfr and other ny cats, stay out of the threads about them. and show respect to the writers you want to show respect to. i dont care. This is a thread for vfr, you made your point, quit carrying on.

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Re: This goes out to the Asshole up in here...

 

Originally posted by Pharaoh145th

To call yourself a writer you need to do this:

 

Write the name.

 

Whether the name is written as a marker tag, a spray paint tag, or ILLUSTRATED as a throw-up, a straight letter or a burner. All of which are WRITING the name, albeit sometimes "Drawn".

 

These "Johny Come Lately" TOYS from everywhere else always seem to wanna drop philosophies about Writing. The problem is THEY DON'T KNOW SHIT.

 

If you don't respect a tag, you're ignorant. Just as bad as a Politician, an Art Dealer, or a Soccer mom from the suburbs.

 

From Tags, early pioneers developed Pieces and Throwups. Without tags there would be no "Graffiti" Movement to speak of.

 

It was Thanks to TAGS & THROWUPS back in the day that the Subway system stayed BOMBED for so many years, so that writers who did pieces could have their shit develope and run on the lines.

 

And It is Thanks to tags and throwups TODAY, that all you phony permission wall toys can even get permission walls. "oh, your wall looks terrible with all this vandalism on it. I can paint a lovely mural for you sir" im sure you know the drill.

 

So dont be an "armchair writer" and to sit behind your remote control, your computer, your car, legal wall and occasional freight, "In the South" and then try to critisize a true street bomber like VFR, who started on the letter lines insides and out(VF throwups), then proceeded to WIPED HIS ASS with the hardcore streets of EVERY boro ini NYC. you say your a MAN (laughable) of 25, that would make u about 12 when VFR started, and graff probably wasnt even an option for you.

 

Statements like yours just exude ignorance, and in graff terms FAKEness. To the point that you wont even state your name on here. That smells like PUSSY to me.

 

TAT Crew rocked on trains and walls from 1980 to 1987. and in addition to pieces BIO BRIM MAZE NICER CEM SHAME all bombed insides, bombed stations, streets etc with tags and throwups..

The fact that now they have made a buisness out of painting, and that they rock legal walls DOES NOT discredit them, it glorifies the fact that they did their thing and are STILL in the game to a certain degree.

 

FX crew (NYC Members) were Painters AND Bombers...

Per, Cope, Ces, Yes 2 bombed for years before they concentrated on legal walls. and some of them STILL bomb.

 

Anyway, i know your type... The tipical No handstyle havin', seaweed and jagged rocks lookin' pieces, pointy booger lookin throwup, out of towner who comes to NY shows or events with your album and blackbook in hand, sweating to meet writers and show em your wack ass flics, and beg them for a tag in your book saying "We should hook up, and paint... you got spots?"

 

So damn right Skuf and JA got bad attitudes, this is NY GRAFF, not no out of town, holding hands, touching dicks graffiti. You play the game, survival of the Illest.

 

Sorry if thats too tuff for you tender out of town mammas boys stay the fuck out of NYC and keep your ridiculous comments to yourself.

 

 

_____________________

 

I write:

 

Kool Dash 167th

 

Facts Crush

The Crazy 5ive

Far Beyond Anyone

XMental

Children Of Destruction

Idolized By Millions

 

I bomb, I piece, I travel nation and Worldwide, I get around, I see toys like u all the time.

 

Say what u write, and come to NY, i bet anone in this thread will smack the shit out your mouth and vic you. Bitch

 

 

ps.. To Erotica.. Ghost was out in 79, VFR in 85

Peace Pipe

 

writing (aka graffiti) in a nutshell

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Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

Originally posted by duh-rye-won

 

no style?!?!?!?!?! VFR is fucking exploding with style. what in the fuck are you talking about? are we all looking at the same flix?!?!?! if VFR is toy, i'm just curious to know who you think some good bombers are?

 

a good bomber with style would be someone like sake or damo.. of coarse thers lots more but those guys bomb so fucking hard with so much style.. there lines are clean and there shit looks good...

 

vfr gets up yeah but his shit looks horrible.. well atlease from those pics ive seen

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