GASFACEDJEW Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Originally posted by seeking right away masta, toby be a good nigger, masta'? HJAHAHHAHA THIS GAVE ME A CHUCKLE DONT GET ME WRONG THOUGH YOUR STILL A TOY TRAPPED IN A FAGGOTS BODY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GEAsusONEnep Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Originally posted by seeking and you are trying to argue with me on this point, because??? stupid white people like myself? please tell me you're black so i begin every further response with 'dear tom'. think about every single highly popular black celebrity you know of. damn near every single one but denzel washington (who just happens to be very good looking) tends to personify some stereotypical trait associated with black people. there are no 'tom hanks' or 'anthony hopkins' or 'john malkovich's' in the black actors guild. outkast was never accepted by white society until andre started dressing like a p-funk step child. so, yeah, what was your counter argument again? that it sells? yes, it sells, but at what cost? when all white people are ever shown are gnagsters and clowns, how can you expect them to believe any different? when keeping it 'real' means being everything that is destroying the black community, how cool is it really, to be 'real'? seeks/obviously its much larger than snoop smoking weed Good point. I still don't like you very much, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew13 Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 I think what seeking's tryin' to say is this.... Can black people fly? matthewsinkin'likeastonethirteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctrl+alt+del Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Originally posted by seeking sorry, i just have issues with black folks being forced to personify grossly overstated characterizations of themselves in order to be acceptible to american society. i dont beleive anyone FORCES snoop to dress how he does, i think he has a different type of style and he dresses how he wants to. i was never talking about "black folks" i was talking about snoop. im not even gonna bother talking about stereotypes and racism in the entertainment world, not because i dont beleive it exists HEAVILY, but because thats not what my original point was. you dont like how snoop dresses, thats your opinion. i still contend no one is forcing him to dress how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 i know that no one 'forces' him to dress that way. my point was to be widely accepted by white society, you have to act in a manner that puts white people at ease, which means, generaly speaking, making them laugh. i can count on one hand the number of black actors and actresses that have become famous for dramatic roles, as opposed to comedic ones. or of course the other side of the coin, their sex appeal. finally, i dont have a problem with how snoop dresses, i have a problem with the fact that he wouldnt be as succesful if he didnt. if you're a black kid growing up today, who can you look at, that looks like you, that is a 'positive' roll model? thats my point... that society only values that which makes it money, keeps it laughing, or sucks its dick, and the sad fact is that a dramatic black celebrity that does none of the above, does not exist. just how i see it, whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatBoy Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 who cares hes wack anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest socrates Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 I believe that the weed and alchoahal "forced" snoop to dress the way he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 *believe* Snoop has Cadillac making him his own line of cars, the "Snoop De Ville". He must be doing something right. I know he aint a house ni**a . Geez like that are not uncle T's. I think someone is mad at someone elses record sales. and I dont think we will ever see a "Seek Da Ville". Mr Big Stuff (on 12oz) thats all. Cuba Gooding Will Smith Eddie Murphy (making a comeback) James Earl Jones Morgan Freeman Seeking/isAmoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 I think seeking is on to something here. Hadn't you noticed the same thing happening with gay men in the media - must be funny/laughable and camp as a row of tents............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-town_bomber Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 what the fuck i dont belive a damn thing about that. snoop is g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid furie Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 i gotta agree with webs. seekings, its sounds like you've just been drinking too much haterade lately. i thought you were down with the dee oh double gee. snoop is a dope fucking rapper and thats all thats important. no one can say with 100% certianty why snoop dresses the way he does. if i was constantly stoned and hella famous i'd probablly be sporting the banddana suits too. its like a 'im-famous-and-im-gonna-dress-fucking-crazy-and-you-will-still-buy-all-my-records-and-blunt-wraps-and-kiss-my-ass' type statement. its hard for me to imagine you, seeking, famous and NOT dressing crazy-like too. snoop doesn't seem like the uncle tom type to me. first read his autobiography, than lets talk. furieONERneedsAroofOVERhisHEAD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyANidE Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 its all talk snoop wont quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -MOE LESTER- Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Originally posted by seeking how funny would it be if he dressed like a slave and said 'yes masta, right away masta, toby be a good nigger, masta'? ok, it would be kind of funny, but still, it doenst make it any less fucked up! HAHAHAHAHAHAH DUDE YOUR RACIST AS FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT MADE ME LAUGH THOUGH AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Re: *believe* Originally posted by WebsterUno Snoop has Cadillac making him his own line of cars, the "Snoop De Ville". He must be doing something right. I know he aint a house ni**a . Geez like that are not uncle T's. I think someone is mad at someone elses record sales. and I dont think we will ever see a "Seek Da Ville". Mr Big Stuff (on 12oz) thats all. Cuba Gooding Will Smith Eddie Murphy (making a comeback) James Earl Jones Morgan Freeman Seeking/isAmoron who said snoop was a house nigga? who said he wasnt popular? you think im mad at his record sales? dude, did you even fucking read what i said? im bashing white society, not snoop. jesus dude, get off the 'hate seeking' bandwagon, no one cares anymore. and as far as your list... i would almost give you cuba gooding if the movie was most famous for (jerry macguire) didnt fill the 'black man as star athlete' catagory. will smith? i wouldnt call will smith a 'dramatic' actor. he is the whole some black man that white people love to like cause it makes them feel diverse. james earl jones? are you kidding me? no one gives a shit about james earl jones, black or white. eddie murphy... your gonna tell me eddie wasnt accepted into white society because he could make white folks laugh? are you kidding me? eddie is hillarious. he is not a dramatic actor. morgan freeman. you got me on that one. he is not only an incredible actor, but he plays good roles. so ok, you got one. so out of the 12% of america that is black, they have 2 black dramatic actors representing them. are you just trying to argue with me, or with the facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 fury and webs. did you guys get together and fucking smoke dust? you completely missed 100% of everything that i said. i wasnt hating on snoop in the least, i was hating on a racist society that will only welcome black people into their homes if they have a joke or a football. IM DISSING WHITE SOCIETY, NOT SNOOP. jesus christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogie hands Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 good to see seeks is back to schooling 15 year old retards.... fun fun fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest socrates Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 I'm glad too see that the stick has gone farther up his ass:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctrl+alt+del Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Re: Re: *believe* Originally posted by seeking james earl jones? are you kidding me? im agreeing with almost everything your saying, but this...no. james earl jones is a great fucking actor. He's a bit old and isnt as busy as he used to be, but he has always been awesome. You can't deny his talent. He has an incredible presence. maybe you just have to be really into movies to appreciate him and all the work hes done. Which is about 157 tv/movie roles according to imdb. also...Sidney Poitier? Tell me he's not a dramatic actor. Im not sure if your familiar with his work, since its really from a different time. But Mr. Poitier was a really great actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 seeking what about sydney portier or how ever you spell it. he is the antony hopkins of black actors... what about samuel l. jackson.... the john malkavich...? meh... why cant people just be people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 damn ctrl alt delte beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyeattoywar Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 sorry all i gotta go with seeks on this one. hes making a very good point guys, you may want to consider it, slosh it around a bit and then look at other famous minorities public personalities. bumpity bump bump did somebody say will smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 my point about james earl jones is that to 85% of america he is the voice of darth vader and nothing more. sidney poiteir, ok, your right, another good dramatic black actor. and how far back into the past did you have to look to find him? your own arguments are proving my point. you have to dig into the crates just to come up with one or two. samuel L jackson almost always plays some sort of stereotypical black role, star wars being the one recent exception, but since that movie also starred green people with 3 heads, i hardly think having ONE black man in it is noteworthy. how many movies have you seen that had a black man in a staring role who wasnt A. an athlete, B. a cop, C. a criminal. or D. a sex symbol? there have been very few. you guys are all trying to argue this with jabs at me, as if proving ME wrong is some great feat. i wish i could be proven 'wrong' about this, it would mean society is alot less fucked than i believe. the problem is, the facts are on my side. all you guys have is the inherent beliefe that im an asshole. ok, im an asshole, but america is still racist to its core and unless your a black man with a joke and a smile, they have no use for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my moment Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Originally posted by seeking i know that no one 'forces' him to dress that way. my point was to be widely accepted by white society, you have to act in a manner that puts white people at ease, which means, generaly speaking, making them laugh. i can count on one hand the number of black actors and actresses that have become famous for dramatic roles, as opposed to comedic ones. or of course the other side of the coin, their sex appeal. finally, i dont have a problem with how snoop dresses, i have a problem with the fact that he wouldnt be as succesful if he didnt. if you're a black kid growing up today, who can you look at, that looks like you, that is a 'positive' roll model? thats my point... that society only values that which makes it money, keeps it laughing, or sucks its dick, and the sad fact is that a dramatic black celebrity that does none of the above, does not exist. just how i see it, whatever... how do you know he wouldnt be as successful. he makes music and when you listen to it you arent looking at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YinzerXpress Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 wow thats all i can say... wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikro137 Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 now hopefully he'll quit wearing such ridiculous outfits and speaking like he's stuck in the 70's. oh man , thats jive... turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SPLINTER Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 im just here to defend james earl jones. i never knew he was the voice of darth. i have enjoyed every single movie hes had anything to do with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SPLINTER Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 so lets get back to why snoop quit smoking weed. he discovered opium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Originally posted by seeking fury and webs. did you guys get together and fucking smoke dust? No, but we should. Actually, we can. Whats up furie. This weeknd or what? Im free. Except for the T&T festival on Saturday morning. I dont smoke dust, just that boogie. I get your point seek. But I still think he dresses the he wants. If he gets clothes handed to him to wear, its because he is a star, and has an image, that he created (an act), to uphold. So of course theyre going to hand him something that fits his persona. He just so happens to play that laid back, cool-calm-collective attitude. Pimp mode if you will. So he wears suits that fit the style that he rocks. You werent mad at Sonic 3000 for dressing in that purple garanimal fit were you? (No offese bro, I got my own custom in the works, think cousin IT!) ;) I doubt whitey accepts us, really. I cant walk into Allawishes Buchanens (fictional person) crib and lite up a spliff cuzz Snoops got the hot joint on the knock box! Fuck no! It aint like that. He justs raps about things that most everyone wishes they had, or had done. I think that is why he is widely accepted. He is Ghetto Fabulous. Even rock stars wish they could live life like that. Living lavish, driving pimpmobiles, having girls braid your hair. Admit it, wouldnt you want to live like that? Society tells you to say no, but the inner person in some of us says YES! So yeah, we are not fully accepted. They just entertain. Thank affirmative action for having people like us 'all up in the house' ya know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest duffman Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 you mean no more sticky icky icky....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 my beef has never been with snoop, or how he choses to dress. my initial comment was off the cuff sarcasm. ive been down with snoop since the 187 single. when i actually got into discussing it, obviously (or so i thought) i was talking about the fact that society refuses to accept black men as 'equals'. they have to be funny, or strong, or be able to jump or some shit. why anyone wants to argue that point confuses me. why they feel that attacking me will somehow prove america less racist also confuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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