paint junky Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 well said^^^^ also to add>>>>>> Also, to add to joe's reply, there are a few other ways to decipher some cans date. •One way is if you turn the can over you'll notice on most cans you probably have ever seen, the bottom is concaved (one piece of metal). This is what all the new cans have but in 60's and back w/ the exception of a small handful of brands the bottoms were made with what seems to be two pieces of metal and instead of a nice smooth concave you will rather see the beginning of a concave and then a flat piece over that i'll have to post a flick of it... this is apparent in the red devil supreme qualities... the older fat lips* had this bottom though i have some cans w/o fat lips and the older styled bottom (go figure) •then there is always the cap method... depending on which top a can is covered in can help ya out also... obviously metal small tops are tell tale signs that you have a vintage can... usually found on early 60's and back... then you have some plastic small tops which are few and far between yet still exist this must have beeen a transitional period... whatever, most good co's didn't rock 'em so fuck 'em...lol Next trend in caps were big "tin caps" seen on 65 and back rustos and 66 krylons etc. Then came fat lips which were most notable on the red devil supreme qualities, but can also be seen if you scroll up and peep that nu-kote avocado or the illinois bronze spray o namel i posted (might be one page back) these are fresh for display but a bitch to get off ( you'll see many used cans of this that look like they had surgery performed on em w/ a screwdriver to get them off... many got torn up) oh well. There were all types of fat lip variations depending on the brand... then came plastic caps which we could spend an hour on but to make a long story short, the early versions had no writing on the tops and no pry notch, then they got a pry notch and then some companies got writing on the tops... Krylon had the bright idea of making notchtops that never seem to fit correctly n the cans...lol... I mean this all varies, wet looks have the freshest plastic caps in my eyes and they look nothing like a krylon or rusto top... there are many different types, i'll just leave it at that... so that is a little bit more data to add to what joe spoke of already... hope it helps :D the method is in the medium<<<<... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyle CMC Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 Paint junky I have to correct you on some of your info. Small tops do not auctomatically mean 60's cans. I have perfect examples of spray ons with small metal tops dated mid 70's. Though I will say a small top mostly means majority of the cans with them are old. One other thing though, when talking about tops, is that you must remeber where you find cans. Even companies themselves have not kept things consistent. If a can is found on a store shelf there is a good chance your getting the right top, though you never know what could have happend over the years. Out of a garage or "some other" place, there is always the chance the tops have been switched, especially if the can has been used. I dont think there is much more I can add to this for now, if the can has a one or two digit zip code, it is most likely early 60's or older. No warning at all on front probably 50's or later. Styles of cans changed over the years, and some companies did one thing while others lagged behing. At a time when seymour was producing their cylinder cans, you had companies producing midget cans. They soon transisted too the normal cans we know of today, but instead of 12oz you had pound cans and more. Joe what was the larges you seen in a regular size can? I am loosing my train of thought so I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. clasico Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 can trivia ~~~~anyone know when they stopped cerculating the older American Accents? the cans say 1991, but ive seen them up until not that long ago? anyone know if sherwin williams made the color slate blue? or jus borden? if any one knows anything drop knowledge. ive been losing sleep over it. ive been told different things from differnt people. i tried to call krylon at headquarters but the rep was out to lunch. i will try back tomarrow and post the responses. haha thanx to all!!!peace!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyle CMC Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 Talking about dating, here are some ads, really helpful in dating cans, all but this first one are from early 50's 52-53 Krylon late 50's http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000013.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000015.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000016.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000017.jpg'> Kerpro, introducing new products, notice 2 different can styles on the rack... http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000018.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000019.jpg'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyle CMC Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 2 page krylon ad http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000021.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000014.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000020.jpg'> Two page sheffield ad... http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000022.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000024.jpg'> Another 2 pagekrylon ad, check out the ill counter display in second half... http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000025.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00301351f00000026.jpg'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retard.AK Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 this one may be a stupid question,but a rather simple one thats bothered me for a good bit.....what does O.D. stand for (as in O.D. Khaki)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_joewelcome Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 come one come all ok.. donnie- O.D. Khaki is a military color used in camouflage color schemes. you might have heard of Olive Drab before- it's the common darkened green/gray that army-navy stores are full of. O.D.- Olive Drab clasico- the first lineup of American Accents was in 2 waves. there's the 1991 cans and the 1994 cans (in 94 they introduced the Tapestry Line and expanded the Classic Line).. they look identical- and some of the 1994 colors happen to be more scarce. CIRCULATION? that's anyone's guess. the new cans are 1996 if i remember correctly. considering all the money spent on making it, distro'ing it and shipping the stuff, everyone wants to at least see some return on the investment of the cans in the stores. so you might see some cans for a while when it's considered a real dog color. sadly, Autumn Gold and Indian Spice were dogs, at least commercially. that paint's so good it gives me heartburn. this is the business...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_joewelcome Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 clasico (damn i wish it was spelled the same as the tomato sauce) had to hit the books on this one.. Slate Blue, to my estimation, was dead in the water after Borden introduced it in 89. HOWEVER, both Slate and Colonial appear on the SWP (Sherwin Williams Paints) 12/91 chart and the SWP 1/92 chart. The only Slates i've ever seen are Bordens, but then again it wasn't too popular neither. Another nice paint condemned to the salvage store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. clasico Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 joewelcome haha never heard that one! anyways ya that sounds right. oh my name is spelled both ways but who really cares. good info. thanx!http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00317556f00000018.jpg'> heres an oldie, paper label, metal lid, how old??? New! rust istant! (rust resistant) spraint (spraypaint) gotta love the old advertising techniques. any comments??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_joewelcome Posted June 21, 2003 Share Posted June 21, 2003 goat.. i said i'd never seen them, not that they were necessarily scarce. i always find slate barcodes and COLONIAL SWP cans, but not slates. you got hot pinks? let ME know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. clasico Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 some more anyone know anything about these???? oh ya im also trading and selling right now. geta tme coffee crave? peace to all!!!http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00317556f00000019.jpg'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikro137 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 the slate blue colonial blue thing is sorta the anomlie (sp) that was more or less common practice for every paint company for years. comapnies like krylon and rustleum are notorious for indroducing colors by reigon. so one mans rare color , is another mans fill in color for 900 pieces because its saturated in an area. a good example is berry ping painters touch , we here in my city have to go way out of the way to find that stuff , but i know cats in other cities , and that is a color that they use constantly because they have a surplus , however they are teh ones bitching that they cant get spa blue... of which we have the vise versa nahimean. sorry if i confused anyone , i lost my train of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retard.AK Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Originally posted by mikro137 the slate blue colonial blue thing is sorta the anomlie (sp) that was more or less common practice for every paint company for years. comapnies like krylon and rustleum are notorious for indroducing colors by reigon. so one mans rare color , is another mans fill in color for 900 pieces because its saturated in an area. a good example is berry ping painters touch , we here in my city have to go way out of the way to find that stuff , but i know cats in other cities , and that is a color that they use constantly because they have a surplus , however they are teh ones bitching that they cant get spa blue... of which we have the vise versa nahimean. sorry if i confused anyone , i lost my train of thought. you must be from around where im from.....i love berry pink,but cant find it anywhere around here,but,we have tons of spa blue.....figures..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyle CMC Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00226452f00000010.jpg'> Speaking of spraint, here is the only other can made by that company that I have seen. That is a paper wring around the top, to protect the nozzle. Has one of those metal screw on joints, early mid 50's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatUgly Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 ha im lookin for an old can of krylon "dookie brown" i need to wipe my ass...can anyone help me i need dookie brown i need dookie brown... look im whining too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paint junky Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 mikro137 actually joe does know what hes talking about.... word up. if you would chill out on your jungle rant you might just learn something from joe aka 91411... what greens do you have by the way...green primer, moss, hunter, avocado, clover & safety green (I know they are the same color but diff names), glowing green, od khaki (cause its olive drab, olive being the keyword???), then their are aquas which are somewhat outta the green fam... and new colors like jade, and teal green,?complete greens huh? maybe barcodes but otherwise... just relax and all things will come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikro137 Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 Originally posted by paint junky word up. if you would chill out on your jungle rant you might just learn something from joe aka 91411... what greens do you have by the way...green primer, moss, hunter, avocado, clover & safety green (I know they are the same color but diff names), glowing green, od khaki (cause its olive drab, olive being the keyword???), then their are aquas which are somewhat outta the green fam... and new colors like jade, and teal green,?complete greens huh? maybe barcodes but otherwise... just relax and all things will come... you forgot ERIN green... also forgotten , emerald green , and sage... from kali colors , gardinea green from the way back in the day... surf green (aka pastel aqua) :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikro137 Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 green chalkboard , zinc chromate primer (ok i have yet to run across this shit , but every picture i have seen of it , the cap is like a sorta yellowish green) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paint junky Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 yeah i didn't feel like writing anymore, lol, but those too. the zinc chromate primer is the same as green primer, I have it in a '63 and then a geen primer notch top its basicly the same shit, there was another one i saw when I looked at my shit yesterday, what the hell was it???? uhhhhhh oh ok, what about nile mothafucking green!!!!!! that's what's up! :D :lol: :lol: :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_joewelcome Posted June 27, 2003 Share Posted June 27, 2003 1320 zinc chromate green primer was made until roughtly '76. with zinc chromate being really harmful and the nixon/ford administrations having imposed many environmental and consumer safety laws, krylon killed off the z.c. yellow and green primers and made zinc chromte-free 1345 YELLOW and 1346 GREEN primers for metal. you don't have all the greens unless you got both Zinc Chromate Green 1320 AND Green Metal Primer 1346. oh, the 2000 series is the greens, here's a checklist of some of the ones ppl have forgotten: 2007 Ford Green 2008 Aqua Turquoise 2010 Mint Green 2013 GM Alpine Green 2017 Pistachio 2018 Light Sage 2020 Buick Green 2021 Oldsmobile Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. clasico Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 $$$4TH OF JULIO$$$ Heres more stuff as mentioned...Post your comments, much appreciated! http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00317556f00000021.jpg'> old paper lables... http://http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00317556f00000022.jpg'> ~http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00317556f00000020.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00317556f00000022.jpg'> mini cans... ~ahhhh, the smell of burnt carnitas in the morning...~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necrofeeliny Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 just woundering if any one has ever heard of any of these brands and could tell me any thing about them tru-test hi-q enamel paper label tru-test x-o rust paper label or a brand called Servess also paper label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyle CMC Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 The tru test paints, are paints that were put out by true value hardware I believe. As for the other, it don't ring a bell, a picture would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necrofeeliny Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 white can servess on top of can .10 black stripes going down top of can then fast drying spray enamel in red any of those tru cans worth any thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyle CMC Posted July 26, 2003 Author Share Posted July 26, 2003 Shit is slowing down, here is some pics from a recent dig, and some previous.... http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000001.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000002.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000004.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000005.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000007.jpg'> Dont Know where this is, but I would like to find it. http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000008.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00288178f00000009.jpg'> And the inside of my store. Anyone with good wood working skills feel free to stop by and help....all the free beer you can drink!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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