Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 it's a mystery-suspence-scifi-biography (???) it's set in the 1920's about this Houdini like Magician Named Carter The Great. Now this guy really existed, so the book is about his life, but he was a mystery, so the facts are all messed up. You dont know when it slips into fantasy. People thought that magicians sold their souls back then... so this book takes that idea the entire way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 ummm the science of self realisation by some great guy in the hari krisna faith. got it off one of those freaky guys dressed in orange dancing around and singing, he was cool. alot of the stuff is totall shit but some is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHorton Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 about to start.. Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 im reading all my books again. fight club, survivor, and invisible monsters by chuck palahniuk. all excellent. im lookin go get "choke" by palahniuk too. hizzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Originally posted by JohnnyHorton about to start.. Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand Hey, let me know what you think of it when your done. I was thinking about reading it next...since I'm in the Ayn Rand mode already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez and yes...it's good. it's confusing...but very good. halfway done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beardo Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 theories of modern art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drain bamage Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 no logo by: noami kein i recommend it for all you brand fiends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dyptheria Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 people are dissing Ishamel but no one is tripping about Atlas Shrugged...i guess that's a good indication what kind of people y'all are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbianBrat Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 "Literature and Existentialism"- Jean-Paul Sartre "Deliberate Prose"- Allen Ginsberg I'm trying to find that new Keroauc book "Orpheus Emerged" but everyone round here is sold out, I'm more interested in the CD that comes with it though. Also I just finished reading "A far Rockaway Of the Heart" by Lawrence Ferlinghetti and some other Philosophy titles which include "The Age of Reason" and some other Buddhist and Taoist books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbianBrat Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Fuck, I spelled Kerouac wrong..I doubt he'd mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 "people are dissing Ishamel but no one is tripping about Atlas Shrugged...i guess that's a good indication what kind of people y'all are." can you explain this further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 "Lawrence Ferlinghetti" "coney island of the mind"....easily one the best books of poetry out there...and the best poet, yes, better then jack, but not allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken E. Bus Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Just finished this http://www.twbooks.co.uk/authors/jpgs98/toxin.jpg'> This book will seriously have you reconsidering the consumption of meat products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbianBrat Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 So will "The Jungle".... The Ferlinghetti title was a good read, but he's no Ginsberg, i'd give it a 2.5 out of 5..I just didn't feel the depth but you have to understand that he wasn't as concerned with strong intellectual poetry as he was with describing his childhood and past experiences in his own special way. I also tend to enjoy the work of Jim Morrison from time to time.."Wilderness" is a title of his that comes to mind as being one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimodub Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 reading three just now, the first for the bus, second to go to sleep and third for expanding my brain (although i think it might melt it) Demanding The Impossible - A History Of Anarchism : Peter Murray Crime And Punishment : Fyodor Dostoevsky The Tibetan Book Of The Dead : W.Y. Evans-Wentz never been big on fiction, so my all time best book i want to recommend is 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere, the autobiography of a French convict sent to a penal colony in 1920's South America, i seriously doubt i'll ever read a beeter book, fiction or non-fiction (the film just does not compare by the way) and what is this Fountainhead book? something about architecture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dyptheria Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Ayn Rand is adored by capitalists because of her moral justification of selfishness and philosophical promotion of rugged individualism. She detests socialism and any ideology of coerced collectivity. She believes in progress through the free-enterprise system. In Ishmael the character divides humans in two categories he calls "Takers" and "Leavers" who correspond roughly with what we call "civilized world" and "developing countries". To explain this division he goes back to the beginnings of agriculture, when the foundation for our present day civilization was laid. It's no secret that the attempts to subdue the Earth weren't all that civilized. But most people aren't aware of the effect this process can have on an outsider. It takes a gorilla to point our attention towards all the little oddities we like to take for granted. Its a book for people who always doubted that man is the crown of creation...or recommended reading for those who still believe that we are the top and nothing can possibly come after us. With my education, I understand the global catastrophe coming upon us, which is why i identify with Quinn more thjan rand. Some one else made a thread on here about Earth in 50 years. Read that. Rand supports the capitalist/consumerist philosophy, while Quinn supports raises the concept of conservation. Sure, as someone poointed out, a lot of "lost" hippie/new age types identify with Quinn. they may be stupid, but Quinn just put knowledge that needs to be known into a palatable form in order for common people to understand. I work in Geoscience, and i see the data first hand that indicates we're headed for turmoil in the first world. If Ishamel isn't convincing, take a year of college chemistry, and a course in biogeochemical cycles and you yourself will be convinced of this line of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 okay thats what i thought you were going to say...i am assuming you have read her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rip Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 shadow of the hegemon by orson scott card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 "and what is this Fountainhead book? something about architecture?" fountainhead is a book you should read, and as far as this layman goes it centers around architecture.......im sure its not all techie for an expert but i learned some shit.... im reading, "before philosophy" and its a fucking bitch....but i love it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Canadiano Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 Why Quinn, though? i'm not gonna get into a well-written and thought out critique of the guy, but I really, really didn't like what he had to say. I'm all for conservation, and there are some great books out there regarding that stuff. Quinn, it seems to me, is extremely naive when he denounces agriculture. He thinks the advent of the division/distribution of labour was a bad thing. My intelligent response? "FUCK THAT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dyptheria Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 see, i haven't read too far into the book. i agree as well, that agriculture and the division of labor is probobly one of the greatest revolutions of humanity. i'm all for embracing technology to make our living more efficient. i wasn't that that was Quinns stance. But as far as Ayn Rand goes, she can suck a fat dick. She is totally overrated. The second someone cites her, i usually dismiss them as someone who's easily impressed by psuedo-intellectualism. Since you like Nonfiction, check out Human Impact on Ancient Environments by Charles Redman. A compelling book, just a straight scientific view on human effects throughout time, no irrational radical conservationist propaganda. Unlike Quinn, the author doesn't believe we can just turn back to pre agricultural ways (which is what i gather from your explaination) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 ill ask it again, have you read her? psuedointellectualoner...i guess, but what if you never considered yourself one to begin with....... (shhhhh, but i like quinn also.....im in a state of confusion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 "The second someone cites her, i usually dismiss them as someone who's impressed by anything psuedo intellectual." for somone so philosophical, that sure is a close minded statement....keep on truckin' i guess.... the second someone comes across holier then thou, i usually just dont pay attention anymore........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dyptheria Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 see, people like us here usually haven't read up on other views, which is why i don't take Rand followers seriously. It reminds me of religious people who believe in one religion that they were introduced to without bothering to investigate other lines of thought. I have indeed read atlas shrugged and I don't like it for various reasons. Rand manipulates the conventions of fiction in order to make her political philosophy seem compelling and plausible. This is most obvious when she must invent a utopia--an actual physical place, located in the Rockies and protected by a space-age force field--where only the best and the brightest have dedicated their lives to perfecting their inventions. The place is utterly unreal. The movers and shakers who live there are more like cardboard cutouts of late-19th Century capitalists than real flesh and blood human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted July 8, 2002 Share Posted July 8, 2002 merrick by anne rice and i just finished a book called, disturb not the dream .... i forget who its by,.... and i have aslo read every single anne rice book out there....and uhmm ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pekrock Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 i was reading the canterbury tales, but i cant understand a godamn word of that nonsense. so i think im guna read go ask alice again. its so sad.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dyptheria Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Statistics for Business and Economics by Anderson, Sweeny, and Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Canadiano Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Originally posted by Dyptheria see, i haven't read too far into the book. i agree as well, that agriculture and the division of labor is probobly one of the greatest revolutions of humanity. i'm all for embracing technology to make our living more efficient. i wasn't that that was Quinns stance. But as far as Ayn Rand goes, she can suck a fat dick. She is totally overrated. The second someone cites her, i usually dismiss them as someone who's easily impressed by psuedo-intellectualism. Since you like Nonfiction, check out Human Impact on Ancient Environments by Charles Redman. A compelling book, just a straight scientific view on human effects throughout time, no irrational radical conservationist propaganda. Unlike Quinn, the author doesn't believe we can just turn back to pre agricultural ways (which is what i gather from your explaination) I'll try and see if I can get that book. Is it easily attainable, you think? Sounds good. I'm not too sure whether that is exactly what Quinn said, but it was something along those lines. Plus, he has a lot of hair brained theories regarding mankind's past. It's been a few years since I read that garbage, but I remember laughing a lot. Plus, these guys that I thought were my friends absolutely loved him...you should see where they are now, as they are most probably entering the final stages of their hippie, vegan cheerleading, flag burning, rolling all problems into a ball phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 i think by certain standards, i'm very unintelligent meh the dude abides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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