T.T Boy Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 america can not take on the entire world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYurSteel Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 fuckin a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 its like talking to a brick wall.Ita all good homies, I got my opinion, yoall got yours.Its not right for me to hammer mine down your mouths, I hope that at least I made you think a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 oh yeah and kabar, i agree to an extent with what you said, but its that kind of attitude that got our (Canadian) soldiers killed by your men, some stupid hot head who wanted to kill some towel heads ended up killing our troops. if your going to do the job, do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYurSteel Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 quote:do you really believe a world utopia can exist?:end quote the only way i see world utopia is if religon is abolished wich is never gonna happen so therfore world utopia is a dream......the terrorists didnt fly those plains into our buildings because they dont like us just because....nope they do that shit in the name of jihad or holy war wich is in their............you guessed it religon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HESHIANDET Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 its fucking 4:30am and you people are driving me crazy. esai, learn some fucking respect DOG! saying the victims of wtc are vitims of greed and exploitation. and yur insinuating that they (as victims) supported the grede of a very small majority of the US population, say .5%. let alone deserve what happened to them. your a fucking jerk off. i'd be willing to say 60-80 % of the people killed there were from other parts of nyc. parts that aren't wealthy and don't produce the top .5 percentile citizens. you fuckign jerk off! eat shit and choke on a misguided bomb that is blowing up your sisters wedding party by accidnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 It absolutely doesn't matter why. They attacked us. FUCK 'EM. Time to spill their guts in the street. Once they're all dead, then you can entertain all these how-many-angels-can-dance-on-the-head-of-a-pin arguments. As far as the Latin American countries go, every last one of them was a civil war. There were Guatamalans and Hondurans and Columbians, etc. on BOTH SIDES of the issue. You try to make it sound like all the wonderful people were all "poor and oppressed," and all the anti-communists were evil monsters. That's not so, and you ought to know better. In Columbia, the government armed rural civilian self-defense patrols with antiquated Mausers and shotguns, because the Government could not afford to keep troops or even a police detachment in every city. The self-defense patrols KILLED THE SHIT out of guerrillas, because they knew who they were and where they lived. They didn't take prisoners and all that , they just went and SHOT their guerrilla asses, and then went home. Within months, the guerrillas disappeared, and good riddance. Then the government disarmed the self-defense patrols. Guess what? The guerrillas came back, and killed the peasants who had the temerity to defend themselves. In El Salvador, both sides were so corrupt and murderous that it's hard to decide who was worse. That is truly a cursed country. In Nicaragua, the Contra resistance armed and supported by Colonel Oliver North from the basement of the White House were former soldiers and anti-communist citizens who were run out of Nicaragua by the Communists. We suipplied them by air, with CIA C-130's flown by pilots from the Alabama Air National Guard. Our support allowed the Contras to spread throughoutr the northern part of Nicaragua, much to the outrage of liberals and communists everywhere. Apparently, the murder, torture and rape of conservatives is just great, but when the tables are turned it's horrendous war crimes. The Sandinistas reaped what they sowed. Somoza was corrupt. So were the Sandinistas. The only people who weren't armed were the average people. Nobody will ever pull this shit in the U.S., because we are armed to the fucking teeth. Even the average people in the United States are fully capable of waging war against the enemies of our country. Who do you think is doing the interrogating of Al-Quaida prisoners in Guantanamo Bay? American Muslims working for the CIA, FBI, National Security Agency (NSA) and the Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA.) And probably a lot of other agencies none of us has ever heard of before. The money is flowing like a waterfall into the intelligence community. They are hiring like gangbusters. People who were in retirement are getting called back to service. New assets are being developed in every area of American life, I guarantee it. And beneath the civilized, white-shirt-and-rep-tie world of the CIA shown on TV, there are some hard hearted, stone cold killers at work, identifying targets in foreign nations and "servicing" them. Today the target may be some businessman laundering money for terrorists, tomorrow, hit by a bus, killed in a car wreck. Or a mysterious heart attack. Or killed in a robbery, or just died of "natural causes." But definately dead. They have lists, un-ending lists. The gunmen out in the mountains of the Afghanistan tribal areas are by no means the only target, or even the main target. The support system, even here in the U.S., is also a target. Support the Al-Quaida? Better make out a will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 esai what i thought was weak was trying to say the victims of the WTC were not victims of OBL terrorist Al Qaeda but by Americans greed. What about the Puerto Rican cook or the Black janitor that died in the WTC. You think they were making mad bills as a result of "The Machine"? They were just like me and you struggling to do what we can to feed out families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 First of all, I agree that all the WTC victims are innocent ,I never said otherwise you moron. If you dont get what Ive been saying(sinceI havent seen most of my topics addressed) than fine, lets agree to disagree. Just stop talking shit to me, its kind of a mute point man. I also am too lazy to continue this but all those fact on the central americas are not quite accurate man, but I dont want to start.I have central american friends who told me quite differently, I also did a thesis on roots of central american political instability not too long ago so Id like to know where you got your fact.I dont mean this sarcastically,I like to look at things from all viewpoints, even the conservative ones.And for columbia the US is taking sides on a civil war which is none of their business, this is cuz the locals are bombing oil plants cuz theyere sick of the pollution and exploitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HESHIANDET Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 HOLLA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 You guys dont understand what Im saying.Any victim was not guilty of shit, every body needs a 9 to5 and they were unlucky enough to have theirs at the trade center.Im sayiing these political action by POLITICIANS create the environments that breed terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 I just disagree with your views on the enemy. You seem to feel the Al Qaeda, Hamas , or Hezbollah are some sort of freedom fighters. They want a piece of the Palestinian pie so that's why they are fighting so hard. These guys are not politicians, they are some fucking nutjobs that want to start a holy war with America, Jews, and anyone that they think has to do with Christianity. They want an end to us plain and simple no change in policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze Posted July 5, 2002 Author Share Posted July 5, 2002 you're nuts kid with all this political shit breeds terrorism...the united states, the single most political country in the entire world, has had one civil war that lasted less than a decade and occurred over a centure ago. all of these other countries that yall are claiming to be acting out of political strife and shit have been fighting with each other for damn near half a century and are no where closer to having shit figured out and now they're drawing us into their bullshit by fucking with us. fuck them and fuck you for even thinking of taking their side. laters, i'm fucking sleeping now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYurSteel Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 wowzers this is a hot topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 I dont feel shit for the taliban, fuckem. I do feel for the innocent afghans who died cuz of all of this as wellas the dead americans. About other political movements, I agree with some rebellions cuz they represent the true consensus of the people of their country, not for no other reason. Many of these views are critical of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi Martin Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 and another thing about the taliban, from what i heard, our goverment was paying those fools around 45 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, to stop opium production, while mass executions took place and opium was still grown. thats wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Esai---I got my facts and opinions from various sources, just like you do. We are on opposite sides of the issue (the Latin American "dirty wars", etc.) and I'm cool with that. I'm not saying that you have to agree with me at all. You don't, and might never do so. If I were you, though, I definately would not accept sources from within the American academic college community as gospel. Most of the professors are liberal, a few are Communists or Socialists. They have an agenda, and they are pushing to change what Americans, and especially "educated" Americans (who will become the leaders of tomorrow) believe. Ideas are very powerful. The ideas of Hegel supported both the development of National Socialism (Naziism) and Communism, as well as Zionism. I'm quite sure Hegel never dreamed his ideas would end up being contorted into concentration camps and the Gulag system. But they were. Hitler was a monster--he killed six million Jews. Stalin was even worse, he killed 33 million decent Russian citizens who had the poor judgement to fall afoul of the Communist Party. All of this could have been averted by a single thing: the arming of the population. If every Jewish family in Germany and Poland had owned a Mauser rifle and twenty cartridges of ammunition, Adolf Hitler and his German Worker's Party (DAP) would have been nothing more than a footnote to the German history of the 1930's. The very first time the Nazi's attacked Jews in Germany, they should have died in a hail of 8mm bullets. The Jews should have gone on the offensive, attacking the Nazis in their party offices, in their headquarters, at public rallies. A month of Jewish defense, and the Nazi leadership would have all been six feet under. The same is true of the Russians. When the NKDV showed up at their homes, they should have just killed them, and "disappeared" the bodies. They should have joined the NKDV, and dispersed the information on where they lived, where they went to clubs, where their families lived, to groups of freedom-loving citizens, who would then take the action that suppression of the Secret Police requires. her in the United States, there will NEVER be a dictatorship. Because we are an armed nation (270 million firearms, and counting) we are invinceable, as a people. No dictator, no invader, no tyrant will EVER be able to seize power in the U.S. We will have a respresentative, Constitutional republic, or we will have rivers of blood in the streets. As long as every school child is taught how to elect representatives, and how to conduct a meeting, the seeds of a republic are sewn in thirty million little student hearts every day. American Democracy rests on "three boxes." The Jury Box, the Ballot Box and the Cartridge Box. It lives inside us, individually. Nobody can extinguish it, unless they kill us all. And nobody can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 you're really twisted man... Y'all kids should go watch top gun for the #364578990 time, blah terrorism can eat a dick, listen to what you saying you lil fascists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mang Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Originally posted by freeze here's my idea to take care of all this terrorist bullshit...the u.s.e....united states east. the fucking peace talks that have been going on forever are now fucking done with. we've given these assholes plenty of time to figure shit out, but they're too fucking hung up on being all high and mighty...fuck these third world pricks, we're taking over from here. the first plan of action is to construct two new world trade centers, round up every last mother fucking person even remotely linked to some terrorist group and stick them in the top ten floors and then remote control two boeing 747's into those mother fuckers. then make all of their bitch asses clean the shit up. then build two new wtc's to serve as the new capital of the united states east. i'm tired of hearing about all this shit happening when we're the fucking country taking care of everyone's bullshit little problems. fuck them all, let's take it over so gas prices will go down to a nickel a gallon when we have an all access pass to their oil. god damn, i need to be elected president. you're exactly the kind of guy with one of those "kill bin laden" shirts and a "god bless america" sticker on your car aren't you? yeah, kill him cause HE is the root of all our problems . . . it's like our president has already unleashed his army of GW clones (you, of course, being the prime example). third world pricks? how about you actually read up on some shit instead of listening to republican mommy and daddy and the mainstream media. your whole post was full of stupidity. school's in. let me break it down. 1.) people like you make really bad decisions (like "fuck em all we want oil!") 2.) other countries get pissed off because you're greedy 3.) you continue to piss them off because you really are greedy 4.) some members of their country can't take it, so they fuck us up 5.) we continue the cycle of stupidity not saying terrorism is right, but that's how i see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Daddy_Screw Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 freeze you're a dickhead. youre the reason they bombed your country, cos of people like you.fucking wake up/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•nakone• Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 uh ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 All you people that have a shred of sympathy for Al-Quaida and the Taliban and terrorists in any capacity need a serious ass reality check. You know what happens to people who fuck with the U.S.? Do you remember the "Highway of Death?" Between Kuwait and Basra, Iraq? The Iraqis werte hauling ass back to Iraq with all the booty from Kuwait, and we caught their sorry asses on the highway. The next morning, there were thousands of dead Iraqis and hundreds of burned, smashed vehicles on the highway to Basra. We blew their shit AWAY. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. Your concept of the world as one big community is completely bullshit. American liberals are the whiney little kid at school that wants the schoolyard bullies to stop taking his lunch money because "it's just not fair." You know what stops them? An older brother that beats their asses senseless, that's what. Conciousness-raising classes don't do shit. Brotherhood rallies don't do shit. Appeals to their better nature don't do shit. What works is DEADLY FORCE. That , they respect. But they do not respect anything else. All the feel-good, sensitive, liberal crapola is a luxury, a luxury paid for by hard young killers on the ground in body armor and carrying a rifle. FUCK our enemies. May their rotting corpses cover their entire country, the sorry fucking bastards. We should honor and respect the people that keep our nation free and safe, and we should feel nothing but hate and contempt for our enemies. THEY ATTACKED US. May they rot in Hell, and the sooner, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Daddy_Screw Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Thats right Kabar, bomb the shit out of em, so they can bomb the shit out of you, then you bomb em again, they strike back,you strike back then,shit we're all dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Originally posted by Daddy_Screw Thats right Kabar, bomb the shit out of em, so they can bomb the shit out of you, then you bomb em again, they strike back,you strike back then,shit we're all dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 p.s, america, you have your own country would you please stay out of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agt. Adopus Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 WAR IS TERRORISM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 All countries please bomb the us constantly. We won't do a thing. But please stop after because it's not nice and we are all human beings. peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klypse Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 You guys talking about this shit is like someone from the hood talking about chemistry while high and sipping on some yak. Yall dont know what the fuck you are talking about. None of the public does. Al qaeda are not some crazy mother fuckers who are on some kill everyone shit. Just like americans are forced into thinking that middle eastern people are the source of all evil, the middle eastern people think the same about americans. What both sides should do is sit down and take a look at the governments who control and represent them. This whole feud with muslims started when the U.S. government decided to fund the jews in their quest to hypocritically fuck the people of palestine over for money, oil, and strategic location. Afghanistan has no government, they are just the public, they no one to represent them and there fore got fucked over by the U.S. and Israelites government. Throwing planes through a fucking building is absolutely not what these people want. Its a last ditch effort. The black art of terrorism is all they can do. And the people who did it dont represent Afghanistans public at all. Osama is a rich faggot who got payed by the U.S. for opium and terrorist acts. The rest of the country is now suffering for the acts of a few. Now the U.S. is fucking afghanistan and innocent muslims again because they now have a reason to attack. This is bull shit. Its a continuous cycle of greed. Whats really sad is whats happening to the public, we are all so ignorant, and that is our demise. Its true most muslims hate Americans, and most americans hate muslims, but what we should really hate is our governments. They pit us against each other when we should be against them. All of you saying that you know the truth is some hoe shit. Watching fucking cnn, or abc is not knowing the truth. None of us know the real truth and probably never will. Dont believe the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyHofa Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 People act like republicans (which i don't consider myself to be) are the only ones who are brainwashed, when the fact is that all the people who currently find fault with American policy are equally drawn into believe a given set of ideas (even if they aren't the status quo). Their uniqueness doesn't make them true. I personally dont think destroying afganistan is the right thing to do, nor do i think that rolling over and taking it in the ass is proper. But if you want people to except your "radical authority questioning idealism" you have to accept their anger. I'm sure alot of people on the anti-American tip are sincere and to those people i say "rock-on", but alot of people say that shit just to sound cool and politically aware. Bottom line: America plays by school yard rules; hit us and will hit you back twice as hard, even if we deserved it. Me, I like my lifestyle, and politcal idealism doesn't pay the rent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 The Real Power Gets Exercised Off-Stage One of the most annoying things about political events is the "stage-acted" aspect of public political behaviors. Photo opportunities, various kinds of "support" for people that have suffered droughts, or plagues or wars or some other calamity. If you watch CNN or MSNBC, you'll see a certain number of these "Vice-President Cheney poses shaking hands with Premier Mawhoosis at the Dingleberry River Summit" kind of events. While all this smoke-and-mirrors is going on, the real action is taking place out in the middle of some stinking swamp, where Delta Force commandos, supporting Dingleberria Army forces complete sweep-and-clear missions to rid the swamp of rebel Twinkletoes People's Republic guerrillas who are dead-set on blowing up the joint Mobil-Exxon/BP pipeline that is being built through the middle of the remote Dingleberry River Swamp. Nobody knows or cares about the guys that are the pointed end of the stick. All they care about is that the price of gasoline in New Jersey goes up up or down twenty cents per gallon. The United States is the envy of every single nation on earth. Everybody, everywhere, wants to move here. For most people, life doesn't get any better than the way we live it here. It's like an exclusive birthday party trying to deal with crashers. And while the priveleged, wealthy, healthy, beautiful children of America (that's you guys) bitch and snivel about how tough life is; out in the dark, there are security forces patrolling the perimeter of the Estate, making sure that nobody disrupts the party and that preferably, the party guests never even realize that the security force even exists, or is doing it's job. It's just ...magic. No mosquitoes? Some security guy set out bug zappers. No dog turds on the lawn? Hors d'oeuvre perfect in every way? Plenty of champagne? Democratic elections? Secure source of domestic energy? Affordable health care? Right to vote? Habeus corpus? They 're glad to be of service. Meanwhile, out beyond the perimeter lights, are people who just flat out WANT YOUR BLOOD. They would just love to get an opportunity to ruin our little soiree'. Without the security forces keeping the monsters at bay, then you get to deal with them yourself. How do you like your chances? Frankly, I think the best America has are already on point. And without them to protect you, you'll be a fresh fish in the tank at San Quentin. Good luck, ingenues. Time to getcher game face on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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