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JOINING THE MILITARY

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drop some info.....ive want to join the army since i was like fuckin 5 years old, its not like fuckin mandatory just something im sorta interested in....but at the same time, i want to go to college when im like 18....my dad said some shit about ROTSY(sp)....can someone explain this...

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ROTC is like like practicing for the marines in high school or college. I believe when you turn 18 and join you get rank over the other fresh fish.

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ROTC

 

program you join while in college for one of the armed services that you take kinda like its a club...kinda..i mean your a normal student but then you go do rotc duties and training and shit...

 

joining the miliatary=badass car insurance....medical, dental, and i dontknow how they deal with paying for college but i know its in there...

 

rotc =reserved officers training military program then you work to serve in an area in the armed forces...thats what i could think of right now..

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i remember when I was younger i wanted to joing the Army either 82nd Airborne or Army Rangers.

I still do ,but doubt I could hack it

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rotc cats get there asses kicked when they go in to the armed forces because they usualy think they know every thing .....all it is is a easy credit............my boy just left for the navy yesterday , the navy-what a pussy!

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i liked watchin g.i. joe when i was little, thats about as close to the army as im gettin to it... fuck that.

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Originally posted by Pistol

ROTC is like like practicing for the marines in high school or college. I believe when you turn 18 and join you get rank over the other fresh fish.

 

yeah if you were good you get to boss around all the newbies.

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i'm thinking about joining the navy right now..

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here is a little paper i wrote for my zine thing. i'm not the best writer, but read up.

 

 

 

 

"Military Misconceptions" by Mr. Mang

 

Unless you've been living in solitary confinement for the past few years, you have seen (in some form) some of the military's newest propaganda campaign. Many schools have ROTC programs, or at least a recruiter that comes in during lunchtime now and then to try to get people to enlist. We have recruiters that come in during lunch some times at my school. It's always depressing to watch kids wander up and talk to the recruiter. A big part of it is because I used to be one of them.

 

For a long time I wanted to be in the military. I never made the best grades or enjoyed school that much, so I figured the military was the way to go. I wouldn't have to worry about rent and I'd be on my own, I'd get to shoot guns, and it would pay my way toward college. Sounds like a good plan, right? Wrong.

 

One of the most misguiding things about military recruiting is college money. The fact is that only 35% of recruits receive any education benefits from the military. Commercials are quick to advertise "up to $50,000" for college, but that $50,000 is only in rare cases. A lot of the big money the military gives out for college is only given for unwanted military jobs that aren't transferable in civillian life. Even Vice President Cheney said "The reason to have a military is to be prepared to fight and win wars... it's not a jobs program." when he was the Secretary of Defense. Wasting four years of your life in the military is a high price to pay for a little bit of college money, and a big chance your military job won't help you at all in the real world.

 

A gimmick the army and navy likes to sell is excitement and adventure. Commercials and brochures show men jumping out of airplanes and shooting m16s or sailing around the world, but probably the only place you are going to shoot guns is a few times at boot camp. In the navy you'll be spending most of your time in a crowded ship, not truly seeing the world. There really is no excitement or adventure in the military unless you happen to qualify to be in the special forces, but even that will get old eventually to most people. Most of your time will be sent getting yelled at and made to do stupid orders. Basically you'll be somebody's bitch for 4 years of your life.

 

And that is what people don't realize. Signing up for the military is signing your life over. You'll be expected to go fight anywhere in the world, no matter if you agree politically or not. If we decide to go into some country and bomb citizens for oil, you'll be expected to go. If America decides to go fight in another Vietnam situation, you'll be expected to go. Of course, you do have another alternative to fighting ... jail.

 

Many people like the news and general public want to try to make the military seem to be a really heroic and honorable thing to be involved with. You'll be a defender of freedom in the greatest military in the world! If you talk to most people who were in the military they'll probably tell you it was one of the dumbest things they did. You may be "defending our country's freedom" by spending most of your time doing chores and getting yelled at for no reason at all.

 

Always be aware of what people are trying to sell to you. The military is no exception. Recruiters will say whatever you want to hear to get you to join. Once you're in, though, you're fucked. There's no way out. So remember, recruiters and flashy ads promising you a future in the military are only tools that are trying to take away and waste 4 years of your young life.

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dude ROTC is a fucking cult..in my highschool the ROTC never talked to anyone else but other members of the cult err I mean ROTC. In the lunch room on thier inspection days they would all be rocking thier uniforms and sitting together taking up half of the cafeteria. It was crazy. It was almost as bad as the marching band.

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Originally posted by Mr. Mang

[bA gimmick the army and navy likes to sell is excitement and adventure. Commercials and brochures show men jumping out of airplanes and shooting m16s or sailing around the world, but probably the only place you are going to shoot guns is a few times at boot camp. . [/b]

 

 

very true and funny too alot of peopel even the ones that really dig being in the armed services dont realize instead of being rambos your more likely be working diggin trenches, moving shit around...labor type stuff...(after BT that is) so yeah kinda funny

 

my aunt tried to get me in the military forever it sjust not my jar of pickles even though i come from a predominately miliatary family...

 

and yeah its not a job place it is a place to serve your country in arms...and just to serve if your the type of person that likes that it is good...(that being full miliatary service of 20 yrs, the four years...no big deal it has its losses and benefits...)

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In the words of a friend of mine who has served and my girls father who served in Vietnam (both of whom said this like it was not a bad thing) - the military breaks you down to the lowest possible common denominator and than builds you back up to fit their needs

 

do not join the military, they make you want to join by offering you a lot (you should ask yourself why right about now), but you give up your self and objectivity....a job offers you benifits, schools give you loans - what else do you need that the military can provide?

 

I disagree with Mr.Mang on one point though, if you involve yourself with communications in the military you walk away with a $50,000 a year job. This is good if your life ambitions have nothing to do with your character and involve working on phone lines for the rest of your life. There is oppurtunity, just not the type I think most people on a graffiti web site would desire.

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yo regs,

 

iono anything bout joining.. but when you want to leave, get in touch with that bitch ass mapo.. i'm sure he can give you some pointers.

 

;)

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regulator, talk with recruiters and and as many military people as you can...high and low in rank. Then make a decision for yourself.

 

Many of the fucktards on here have never served or have even come close to it, let alone have to the balls to be in any kind of combat situation. (If mapo shows up on here, disregard anything the kid says, hes a true pussy...reread his military thread if you can find it, youll understand what im talking about.)

 

There are many things to gain in a military career, esp if you go through rotc. Leadership and other qualities are highly sought these days. The military can give you these things. Also the things you learn in your military career can get you a relatively high paying job when you get out. Not to mention tax, medical and other benefits.

 

I wouldnt ask your peers, esp on a board like this for info on rotc or the military in general.

 

"Many people like the news and general public want to try to make the military seem to be a really heroic and honorable thing to be involved with. You'll be a defender of freedom in the greatest military in the world! If you talk to most people who were in the military they'll probably tell you it was one of the dumbest things they did. You may be "defending our country's freedom" by spending most of your time doing chores and getting yelled at for no reason at all. "

 

~shit like that makes me sad. Sorry Mr.Mang, but your little rant has nothing backing it, and was poorly written. You seem like a cool kid but I think you need to read up and do some more research on this subject, and our nations history in general. Read the book "we were soldiers once and young" or even "once an eagle" and then tell me what you think honor means. What is your idea of an hero? I would like to know.

 

PISTOL~ As the story goes Elements of the U.S 3rd Armored Division were retreating from the Germans in the Ardennes forest when a sergeant in a tank destroyer spotted an American digging a foxhole. The GI, PFC Martin, of CO F, 325th Glider Infantry Regiment looked up and asked " Are you looking for a safe place?" "Yeah" answered the tanker. "Well, buddy," he drawled, "just pull your tank in behind me.....I'm the 82d Airborne, and this is as far as the bastards are going!"

http://www.bragg.army.mil/afvc-b/images/History%20Pics/haught.jpg'>

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i've talked to plenty of people who have served and i even took a few trips out with a recruier. i think i know what i'm talking about better than you make it seem. and the nation's history doesn't have a whole lot to do with anything. of course we don't know what it's like to have served, because we've thought it over. sure i'd go fight if we had some hitler on our hands, but we really don't. it's all about the oil and other bullshit.

 

recruiters are just going to tell you ANYTHING to get you in. do you think they're gonna tell you all about how you'll get yelled at and pretty much made worthless? will they tell you about 4 years pretty much wasted? i don't think so.

 

objector.org

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it was mandatory for all the boys at my school to attend ROTC througout 9th and 10th grade. we learned stuff like map reading, cpr, how to help out ion accidents, and also about the us military history. we also got to shoot guns, YAY! . for half the semester, 2 days out of the week we had to wear our uniforms, shine our shoes, and all that jazz. i didnt really love that class,but overall; an interesting experience.

 

as for being in the real military, i dont think anyone of us kids who hasnt experienced it themselves should talk shit.

 

as far as getting scholorships goes, i think kids in the Air Force get hooked up the most with that stuff. (from what my military friends have said.)

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