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yeah so i was listening to this progressive radio station New Yorks WBAI and this guy Gary Knole(i don't know if you spell it like that) was talking about how the U.S. government planned the 911 attacks. He also was saying that back in the 70's the government had this plan that if the American people got too liberal and rebelious they would make an attack on a well known building. They're idea was that if they did this the American people would support anything that the goverment would do. For example war with other contrys or tighter security. Some of the proof that Gary Knole had was one, that Binladan was trained by the CIA and had done bisness with the Bush family for years, which is true. Two, that when the 20 pilots came for training and told the flight teacher that they needed to learn how to get off the grownd but not how to land. It was reported to the FBI than went to the Bush Administration. The FBI thought this to be very serious but Bush dismissed it and told the FBI to leave the case alone, that is also true and you all have probably seen that on the news. An X FBI agent was also on the show and said that the shoe bomber story was made up to scare people. And also that the guy who "helped" the Alkida(however you spell it) from Brooklyn was just an easy target and framed to make more commotion. At first i didn't believe what I heard but after a while it started to make sense. I mean the U.S. goverment has been bombing the fuck out of Afghanastan and probably 80% of U.S. citizens support it! Also, check out security these days... It's a dream come true for the Republican ass holes in the white house since everyone is being body searched for the littlest things. It seems like the plan invented by the CIA in the 70's worked out for them. You'll probably read this and think its bull shit. But all i can say is don't believe everything you read or see in the news, i'ts only half the story.

Listen to WBAI!

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Originally posted by TranceStoner

don't believe everything you read or see in the news

 

oh yeah, but believe EVERYTHING you hear.

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Guest imported_El Mamerro

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Guest ctrl+alt+del

PEARL HARBOR

 

FDR knew of the attack, it could have been stopped. But he needed it to happen. That would get the american public all riled up and angry. Ready to send the youth across the ocean to fight the war.

 

911

 

The CIA knew of the attack, it could have been stopped. It got the american public all pissed off at muslims, so we rushed to the middle east to bomb the hell out of everyone.

 

....I wont even go into the rest of it. Based on the replies so far, no one is open minded enough to listen.

You wait though, 50 years from now when all the files on Sept 11 are declassified....

 

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

a mind is like a parachute

works best when open

(got that from a poster in english class!!)

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ill give you that

 

yeah fine you caught me in my own contradiction. Here's a million bucks and a slap on the back for a job well done.

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Why do all these liberal hippie conspiracy theorist's always have the same website where they get all their info?

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Guest Ted Wakowski

Getting into shit like this seems almost completely futile. As ordinary citizens living in modern times we'll probably never get the full story on anything. And people like Bill Cooper are out there being shot. Shit is just wack on all sides.

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Ctr+ alt+ delete- you are right about everyone not being opened minded. But i am sure on a web site like this the information will go through to a few. thanks for putting that pearl harbor info too.

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Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del

no one is open minded enough to listen.

 

Yay!! The government is a horrible monster, I read it on the Internet. Below is a comprehensive list of all the effective things I can do about it:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del

911

 

The CIA knew of the attack, it could have been stopped. It got the american public all pissed off at muslims, so we rushed to the middle east to bomb the hell out of everyone.

 

all the info prior to nine eleven whether it wasnt revealed or was brushed off was a terrorist plot to attack the united states....("zero hour tomorow" etc...there was never a "8 32 hijack airline blah blah....layed out schematic of the attack..so thus how do they stop it?

 

hindsight is 20 20...suer they took a lot for granted..the us has been accustomed to acting like this thanks to clinton and his eight year pardon the term bunny huggin view of approuching things...oh well be all right sign a few peace accords oh here well show them cruise missle blow up a tent problem solved....i agree with some of the stuff that sucks..but to say we could have stopped this particualr instance or that the us gove did is just no common sense...

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I remember seeing a report on the news about a helicopter that was five miles away from the twin towers which is considered too close. that helicopter was seen on airport radar and escorted by two helicopters to a safe distance. So why exactly weren't the planes on 911 seen on the radar and reported before they hit the buildings? The only reports were made after they hit the buildings.

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Guest Ted Wakowski
Originally posted by TranceStoner

I remember seeing a report on the news about a helicopter that was five miles away from the twin towers which is considered too close. that helicopter was seen on airport radar and escorted by two helicopters to a safe distance. So why exactly weren't the planes on 911 seen on the radar and reported before they hit the buildings? The only reports were made after they hit the buildings.

 

This is definitely true. There could have been a nice "chopper escort" for both of the planes if only the government hadn't suppressed information and masterminded the elaborate misdirection of U.S. intelligence. Why isn't this on the news?!? Someone call Dan Rather ... or Oprah!

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they were seen and that was all over the news...obviously noone thought enough to report it because noone would athought that it would happen...but seriously im not even goin into rehashing what who said, what was on cnn...

 

just think of your conspiracy theory argument and really who is being closeminded..

 

fin...

for now at least:D

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what would choppers have done? crash into the plane....?...

 

fuck im so bored

 

 

:D :D

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Originally posted by Ted Wakowski

 

This is definitely true. There could have been a nice "chopper escort" for both of the planes if only the government hadn't suppressed information and masterminded the elaborate misdirection of U.S. intelligence. Why isn't this on the news?!? Someone call Dan Rather ... or Oprah!

 

 

hahaha, 'high speed' car chases take like an hour or two sometimes, I guess in jumbo jets it would be faster or something...

 

couple cops in a chopper: Pull Over!

 

Terrorists in the cockpit give them the finger and one chucks a moon.

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Guest Ted Wakowski

3 Things That Could Have Been Done To Prevent The Planes From Hitting the Buildings

 

1 - They could have been shot down. Fuck all those stupid passenger people on the planes, we could have just aimed a fucking cannon at both flights and celebrated later that night.

 

2 - There could have been a HUGE net erected and placed in front of the buildings. This would have caused the planes to fly into the net, and subsequently "rebound" out into the ocean, leaving the towers damage free.

 

3 - Time travel. If only it wasn't a deceptive cover-up by the entire national government, CIA and FBI, we could have gotten to work developing time travel technology and gone back to the initial hijacking itself, stopping it from happening in the first place. As a bonus, we could have also stopped EVERY other major world disaster that EVER happened since the beginning of time and have found ourselves living in a perfect utopia as we speak. Fuck, we slept on that one.

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Re: 3 Things That Could Have Been Done To Prevent The Planes From Hitting the Buildings

 

Originally posted by Ted Wakowski

3 - Time travel. If only it wasn't a deceptive cover-up by the entire national government, CIA and FBI, we could have gotten to work developing time travel technology and gone back to the initial hijacking itself, stopping it from happening in the first place. As a bonus, we could have also stopped EVERY other major world disaster that EVER happened since the beginning of time and have found ourselves living in a perfect utopia as we speak. Fuck, we slept on that one.

 

NO WAY MAN! the government WANTED those things to happen, they use the time machines to ensure that these events will occur!

 

 

 

 

 

 

uh oh... I've said too much:eek:

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No matter what the fuck the govt had to do with 911( which is pretty damn thought provoking)> No one can argue that the only thing to come has been bullshit. Although I hate the govt, I never would have thought them to be so low as to have a part in it, but from all the horrible actions the government has exercized since ,I have changed my mind. These morons are bent on totally fucking this country up by the end of thier reign of control. My guess, lets wait and see how big the check is gonna dig into our tax pockets when all of dubya's tyrades and tax breaks to the rich are through with.

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Do you guy's really think Dubya could really have masterminded this?

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i dont understand the concept of destorying billions of dollars worth orfcosts...(destruction, recovery,) moral loss, human loss, emotional pains etc.......yet there are groups that openly admit attacking...planning to attack...having the resources and will to...the us government may not be a slice warm apple pie but most of these conspiracy theories are so ludicrous and beyond comprehension...

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Guest ctrl+alt+del
Originally posted by Pistol

Why do all these liberal hippie conspiracy theorist's always have the same website where they get all their info?

 

well im not a hippie.

second. im the only one on 12oz posting that site.

third. its not like there is a wide variety of sites to choose from. its not like we can read this at cnn.com or abc.com or nbc.com or moviepoopshot.com

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during all the politic threads everyone brings up articles from whatreallyhappened. Check 'em out.

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