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Where in europe do the trains (passenger) still run for weeks with graf on them? Also From what i've read on n-igma or some other site that in italy they don't buff the trains(?).

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Guest THE LAW

warsaw commuters run indefinitely....the subways are virtually untouchable though

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In some graff mag I was looking at from Italy, people actually had to go over other writers peices because the trains never got buffed, but that was a while ago. When I was in Munich, Germany 3 years ago there used to be trains rolling by all the time packed with graff from end 2 end. I don't know what it's like now but i'm going back there in about 3 months.

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Originally posted by goldschlager

Holland?

London?

 

Not like what you described.

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I found this on endstation (http://www.artcrimes.org/endstation/) couldn't link it directly.

It's dated March 12, 2000. Have things changed alot down there?..

 

I'm trying to plan a trip to europe and want to bench some running trains. What are some good places to check out?. If the nature of this topic might bring heat to some places please delete it.

 

 

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"What does it mean BUFF??"

Report made by anonymous writer from Rome - Italy 2000. Edited and directed by Endstation. Copyright Endstation.ROME: Italy is a country at the bottom of the European map. The shape looks like a big boot kicking a football. Just under the knee of the boot lies Rome. The writers in Rome does not seem to bother to kick any football, instead they kick ass with the italian transport system. The ass of that system is called Metro di Roma.

 

In Endstation Magazine issue #1 you could read about Rome as it was in 1997. We reported that the "Roma subway is burning!". Now three years later of writing, bombing and vandalism, the Roma metro almost seem to be destroyed, but far from burned out.

 

"Every train is full of pieces, throw-ups, top to bottoms, end to ends and whole cars."

 

In this issue a local writer in Rome that Endstation has talked to tells us more about the situation in Rome:

 

"Here in Rome there are two metro lines, plus the "Lido" line that goes to the beach. The two lines are called "A" and "B" line. The B line is really very bombed."

 

"It's not possible to find a car completely clean, believe me, I've tried... every train is full of pieces, throw-ups, top to bottoms, end to ends and whole cars. Even the insides of the trains are full of tags, but they clean them more often."

 

"Writers from all over Europe has done it."

 

"The A line is not as bombed as the other ones, but in these last couple of years it has been painted a lot. Alot of writers paint it despite the guards. The first one-man-whole-train ever painted in Rome was also done on the A-line."

 

"Finally, the Lido line is really the most bombed one. Many writers from all over Europe has done it. Except for the cleaned windows it is totally covered by pieces. It is easier to paint... but there are always the infamous guards."

 

"It happened that they shot a writer."

 

He describes Rome as if there is no control over graffiti at all. But if you have heard about the train scene in Rome before, you have probably come across stories about the infamous guards. Cruel italian old men with holster and revolver shooting on everything that moves. Our reporter tells us more...

 

"The guards are the worst part of Rome's graffiti scene. They do have a gun and they sometimes look scary, but only once, about 3-4 years ago it happened that they shot a writer. If you get caught they will take you to the police station. Then you will have to pay a fine... but you won't go to jail."

 

Graffiti can be found in most cities in Italy. Milan and Naples are two main scenes for trains. Milan has a popular metro train as seen in internationally distributed graffiti magazines. The italian national railways FS (Ferrovie dello Stato) are often painted thoughout the country. There are also regional trains in various cities. Sometimes european trains from other countries may get a piece done by an italian writer attached to it's panel.

 

We asked our contact to tell us about the buff in Italy. The answer we got may tell all about the situation.

 

"What does it mean 'BUFF' ? ?"

 

If the Italian train companies ever finds out what it means, I guess the same word will have a completely different meaning...

 

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Went to Milan in 1999 and the trains were smashed.

Went to Milan in 2000 and the trains were smashed.

Went to Milan in 2001 and the trains were smashed.

Haven't been back there in 2002, but from what my friend who lives there tells me, the trains are smashed.

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italy is definatley your best bet in my opinion. as rodders said 'smashed' i travelled from turin in the far north to catanzaro on the south coast last summer and saw scores and scores of incredible pieces running all over the country.:king:

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Guest Fabo 2

London

 

painting the tubes in London is almost impossable, and even if you do manage to hit the tube it won't run for longer than a day.

Silverlink trains are a lot easier to hit because some of the actual trains are just parked on the tracks at night. Also, the company that owns Silverlink has very little money and can only afford to buff the trains once a month.

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tubes get done and they still run although i think you're right about it not being more than a day. i guess that's why backjumps kick ass so much though...

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Yeah painting comuter trains in Holland and the UK is getting tuffer but still possible to do. Both the Amsterdam subway and the London tube are just as hard if not harder than the NY subway- very hard to paint and little chance of them running. Spain, Italy, Warsaw are good right now and Copenhagens still cool...

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Originally posted by octopusone

Yeah painting comuter trains in Holland and the UK is getting tuffer but still possible to do. Both the Amsterdam subway and the London tube are just as hard if not harder than the NY subway- very hard to paint and little chance of them running.

 

Dont forget about Paris and Stockholm.

 

 

Spain, Italy, Warsaw are good right now and Copenhagens still cool...

 

Copenhagen is alot harder than it used to be.

 

Italian subways are not the cakewalk people think they are.

 

Never been to Spain.

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Guest Fabo 2

Italy is getting harder to paint these days

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Guest SE4_2002

help

 

Does anyone know anything about Ukraine, kiev subs especially??

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Originally posted by Fabo 2

Italy is getting harder to paint these days

 

i hear its next to impossible.

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Originally posted by goldschlager

"The guards are the worst part of Rome's graffiti scene. They do have a gun and they sometimes look scary, but only once, about 3-4 years ago it happened that they shot a writer. If you get caught they will take you to the police station. Then you will have to pay a fine... but you won't go to jail."

 

anybody from italy or visited there know if this is true... you only get fined?.

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