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iight- now im buggin tho, these garage people are here at my crib to put in a new door, and they in the garage and my shits in there.....and i aint gona go hey guys take the board and run like im all suspicious and shit man im buggin i thik they gona do shit or somethin

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YES!!!! they left for like 20 minutes and i got busy- i took out some bucket paint and roller around 10 boards in about 15 minutes god im so fuckin happy, now theyre all white, and i have shit to paint that isnt all retarded and fifferent colored,haha:king:

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...i know a lot of kids have practice boards and shit like that, and technically that's not really evidence for anything because if you own the board and the property where it is then it isn't illegal...it's just painting...but in my personal opinion i think it's pretty stupid to keep anything like that around, especially if you bomb alot and your name is hot...i keep my crib spotless of shit, every thing is hidden...remember we are criminals, think like a criminal, if you sold coke you wouldn't leave big bags of it laying on your coffee table would you?...but this is an extreme...if you're not really hot it's probobly not that bad to have a board, just keep it pretty DL so your neighbors don't know about it...

 

 

...somehow this thread evolved from legal advice to tips to not getting caught at all...oh well...the best thing i can tell you is thta every city is different, drive around one night late and observe what kind of people are out and in what areas, then when you bomb those areas try to look like those people...this is also referred to as COMMON SENSE...

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...somehow this thread evolved from legal advice to tips to not getting caught at all...oh well...the best thing i can tell you is thta every city is different, drive around one night late and observe what kind of people are out and in what areas, then when you bomb those areas try to look like those people...this is also referred to as COMMON SENSE...

 

hahaha! well after all

we are criminals
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Originally posted by RaidTheHood

fuck using bookbags period unless you got like 6 cans, anyone walkin down the street at 2a.m. with a full bookbag is ganna look suspicous

p.s. loose pants with a belt is a great way to hold 2 cans comfortably

 

This is the thing - Its stupid to walk around with that shit on you - unless your going to a permission wall or something. The best way is with the use of a car. You drive by the spot - Chuck your paint out (in a bag) Get out somewhere (not on the same street) Then walk to the spot..

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Originally posted by wydontyudie2

heres my opinion on paint times,(i only broke this rule twice and i was drunk and one time i paid for it by stepping in two feet of water)

 

1only paint after 12am

2never paint friday, wednesday or saturday nights if you are bombing

3 strap skates if you street trekkin

maybe u know something that i dont but what is wrong with painting on a wednesday night? fridays and saturdays obviously there are more cops out just because it is the weekend, but wednesday?

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aiight i jus got one question for yall. Ive just got into graffin and have actually never been out on the streets cuz i want to learn about things to do when u get caught and shit, but my real question is, if you get caught couldnt u just ditch or hide ur bag if your in a corner or alleyway? that way they dont have shit to search cept maybe ur pants and then if your off the hook go and grab ur bag and go home, or go and finish the graf if u got the balls:idea:

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help us all...

 

Originally posted by KeepzEG6

Ive just got into graffin and have actually never been out on the streets...bla bla bla.... go and grab ur bag and go home, or go and finish the graf if u got the balls:idea:

 

get arrested... no really get arrested.

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Originally posted by KeepzEG6

aiight i jus got one question for yall. Ive just got into graffin and have actually never been out on the streets cuz i want to learn about things to do when u get caught and shit, but my real question is, if you get caught couldnt u just ditch or hide ur bag if your in a corner or alleyway? that way they dont have shit to search cept maybe ur pants and then if your off the hook go and grab ur bag and go home, or go and finish the graf if u got the balls:idea:

 

if your in a corner or alleyway your fucked....eat your spray cans and markers

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if you walking along a street and a cop car pulls up next to you its not all that easy to ditch your bag. you gotta see em comin cos soon as they see you they trained notice when you stick the bag of weed in ya pants/bag of paint under a car.

 

nuff times ive done a dub a stashed the left over paint so i dont have to walk home with it at 3 in the morning. if a cop stops you an you got paint you either run or hope to get lucky

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on another note when it comes to dealing with police. in the united states if you are not a minor it is not illegal to refuse cops your identification if you are not driving a car or if they have not seen you do anything illegal. i will reiterate, if you are driving you must present id, if you have been caught doing something ILLEGAL you must show a cop your id if you have it with you. this is a right in every state that i know of. dont let the police mess with your heads either, they will tell you its illegal and that it is mandatory but it is not. as some people already know and some will eventually learn police have a very reoccuring tendency to lie to you to get what they want out of the situation and they also have a tendency to make up laws as they go along. most police do not know their laws very well ehich is why it is good as it was said before to read know your rights by the aclu. they will tell you that you will be ticketed or arrested for noncompliance or something thereof, they are lieing. they will tell you that you will get worse charges as it goes on, they are lying to you. i know that this sounds pretty crazy but it is the truth, if they say they will have to call their superior officers and have a meeting, let them. it is not illegal. i highly recommend to anybody reading this to research it for yourself and to not take my word for it. you can look into it at an aclu website and at most copwatch websites. it is also not illegal to tape record (audio) your conversations with the police as long as one person in the conversation is aware that they are being recorded, that one person CAN be you. it is also not illegal to videotape officers while on duty although they will swear time and time again that it is but i highly recommend having a witness or two present for this while doing so and one of them videotaping you in action to reassure that there is no brutality involved because police tend to frown on the activity of videotaping them while in action (if you are considering videotaping a police officer, again do not take my word for it look into your local laws yourself). if you decide to videotape a police officer in action please try to keep the videocamera on the officer at all times after taking one videoshot of the suspect. the reason for this is because by video taping the suspect it is possible to catch them in the act of doing something illegal and the video can be used to incriminate them. keep your lens on the officer. look to make sure that the suspect is not doing anything illegal at the time before videotaping them.

editnote:it is only legal to record(audio) police officers in texas and one other state, i was mistaken about this fact. this is a very good example, if you plan on using these techniques do your research into your own local laws.

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another thing that might help if u get caught in the act is ditching your clothes while running, if a cop is looking for a kid wearing a black hoody he might not think that u were wearing a light colored tshirt underneath. u could also wear tear-away pants (with the buttons on both sides) with shorts underneath but those would probably slow u down while running, although if youre hiding it might work

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Originally posted by porque

 

...if you are searched based on the notion that you smell like weed, then they are searching you for weed...not paint...if they find paint that is in no way linked to your smelling of weed... remember having paint is not against the law (...yet?) They will ask you why you have paint so be able to come up with a good excuse...Lying is essential to getting away

 

to further prove this point think about this... let's say the police have all kinds of evidence that i am selling drugs...they spend weeks and weeks getting proff and finally have enough for the magistrate to issue a search warrant for my house... upon busting in to my house they find: a prostitution service in my living room, an illegal casino in my bedroom, a conterfeit money lab in a clost and a full out cock fight in the basement... since their warrant is for drugs they can not arrest me for any of these other crimes, because before entering my residence they had no proof of such things... Being stopped on the streeet is the same way, if they search you looking for one thing and they find something else they can't do anything about it...esspecially if what they find is not in itself illegal (paint) but only implies by assumption an illegal activity...

hmmmm...then tell me if this sounds "right"......a cop came into my old highschool...some career day bullshit.....said they were TAUGHT that when they search pockets bags etc to grab the bottom of the pockt/bag etc and pull it out like it was an accident...so that if you have ANYTHING incriminating ....... it falls out.......your speakin of justice from an unjust system.....they make the rules so you feel safe......then fuck you in the ass....peace
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camouflage and sorority bitches

 

nobody wants to sit through these long stories..so i'ma try to keep it short. I tagged a door to a restaurant in my city with a black pilot. 2 sorority bitches saw it and called the jakes. i ditch my marker in the river and engage in a classic chase. i try to ditch a stack of my stickers and a silver deco pen, but the cops find it and are calling it evidence. they do NOT have the pilot that did the tag, but they DO have stickers that have the same word as the tag....am i screwed? the sorostitute witnesses supposedly ID'd me cuz i wore camos....but it was a dark night and they were a good 100 ft. away or more. without the pilot what case do they have...can they match unused stickers to the tag on the door? can i say i just FOUND the stickers despite the coincidence? now they want to trace every tag in the city i've done to me because of this, which WILL be a felony and WILL cost 1,000's of $$$$. should i just confess to the single restaurant tag saying I was mocking my hero this one time because i FOUND his stickers? its fucked up anyway, somebody drop some advice if you can.

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first of all, if you were wearing camo, how did the prostitute see you? you must have had on that faggy orange and red camo didnt you?

 

this was up at school i assume, not the d, correct?

 

get a lawyer, dont admit to anything till you get a lawyer. if they offer you some deal, where you admit to that tag, pay a 100 fine, and its done, if you get it writing, i would go with that, but if you dont get it in writing, tell em to fuck off.

 

actually, man, you best bet is just to get a lawyer and see what he says. you can probably get off of most the charges, but 3 eye witnesses are just as good as a marker.

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^^...please do not waste space with garbage like that...^^

 

...paperback...a few questions for you...1) what have you actually been charged with so far? 2) where did they find the silver marker and the stickers? did they find them on you? did they witness you dumping them? 3) how drunk were those sorority girls? and were they hot? 4) how hot is your name? i.e. when toys get caught are you one of the names that they ask them about? 5) were they the gay orange and yellow camos?

...let me know and i'll get back with any advice i can give...

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Now i Have been stopped and caught when caught i really had no where to run they had watched me hit up and were out of the car by the time i turned around adn walking my way now i fucked up, so i throw my marker on the ground and talk to them blah blah both ways then they ask to search my bag i replied no and they didnt why i cant say but it saved my ass from free room and board that night fact is they cant even search your person unless declared under arrest as well as your belongings.

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Originally posted by madbomber

on the show C.O.P.S this cop was driving down the street and he looked at thease 2 guys and he said to the camera man thease are graffiti vandals. (u could just tell by looking at them)He got out of the car and started talking to them...The cop asked if he could look in the bag and the 2 guys said sure. There was atleast 10 cans in the bag along with some markers and stickers. The cop knew the guys were graffiti vandals but since the cop didnt see them painting he's well like im gonna have to let them go since we didnt actually catch them in the act. He checked there hands for paint and they were clean. Just as he was letting them go this bitch lady ran up to the police officer and said she saw thease boys putting up stickers on a sign. So then there were arrested and went back to the station...

 

i saw this, it was LOG and someone else, they rolled around and the cop was stupid cause he didn't notice that the tags on the walls were the same as the stickers. they never got arrested, just harassed for a long time.

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Re: my encounter

 

Originally posted by SIEK ah

Ok, this is what happened to me. i was walking solo down the main drag in town at about 2am on a monday. i had a single can in the pocket of my hoodie (the type of pocket where its just one and you put both your hands in). anyways, this cop was driving the opposite way but i heard tires behind me (like he flipped a U), and i'm like well "shit". he pulls next to me and tells me to come over. People say i look young for my age when i'm actually 19, but i get IDed all the time for anything. anyways, my hands are in my pockets and he wants you know how old i am. i say 19, and he says "got id?". i pull one hand out of my pocket and reach for my wallet. he tells me to take the other hand out of my pocket. then he spots the bulge of a can in my pocket while checking my id. He asks me what that is..."a beer?". i tell him no and he asks me what it is then. i tell him "my personal belongings". He then tells me "take out your personal belongings and place them on the curb, or i'll do it for you." Wow. i did it, he got pissed it was a can of paint...especially since hes an artist he told me (with a degree in fine arts)...aww, i got the worst cop...one with an art degree!!! anyways, i weasled my way out of everything, saying i'm new to graff and doing it to fit in wiht my friends. he lets me off, but takes my can and meanstreaks (he searched me entirely after he found the paint and detained me).

 

LONG STORY SHORT: DON'T LET COPS INTIMIDATE YOU, CAUSE AFTER YOU REALIZE WHAT THEY SAID/DONE, YOU MAY FIND OUT THAT YOU COULD HAVE RESISTED AND BE TOTALLY LEGAL IN DOING SO. THEY NEED PROOF OR PROBABLE CAUSE FOR ANY SEARCH.

 

 

why did you let him search you???

 

he broke the law, and had no right to take your stuff but you just let him do it?

 

try sticking up for yourself

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i got fucked. what do i do?

 

tonight i was drivin around. i was at a stoplight and i had the sudden urge to spray a stencil on a sign next to me. i had a couple stencils in my back seat along with a can of black krylon. nobody was around, it seemed fine. so i got out of my car, sprayed it real quick, and got back in. as i got back in a cop pulls up behind me. (wtf made me want to spray a stencil, and why was a cop the only other car around.... why do these things happen..?) well i got caught. i tried to be as honest as possible saying stuff like "i know... i have no excuse, i have nothing to say to defend myself". we both knew i was fucked. well he confiscated my stencils, paint, and about a half dozen other stencils out of my trunk. i'm supposed to be getting a court hearing in the mail soon, and now i have to go to court.

 

i have no criminal record, so this is my first offence of any kind. what's going to happen to me? what should i do at court? i've never been. can someone give me some pointers? if possible, could someone give me their AIM screen name or something so i can talk about this more? i really need help, i dont know what to do..... this fucking sucks. :(

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I f you have uded the other stencils before, think about whether they know it..it depends on the graffiti situation in your town. They will charge you for the stencil that you did, and try to get you to confess to doing other stuff. If you dont say anything incriminating, youl probly just have to do community service.

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Originally posted by ARCEL

I f you have uded the other stencils before, think about whether they know it..it depends on the graffiti situation in your town. They will charge you for the stencil that you did, and try to get you to confess to doing other stuff. If you dont say anything incriminating, youl probly just have to do community service.

 

what do they usually make you do for community service?

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...what you do for community service will vary from city to city...around here they usually make people pick up trash in the street sor shit like that...it's nothing bad, just a big pain in the ass...

 

 

...but don't admit to anything else in court...

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