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im not sure if this has been mentioned yet cuz im way to fuckin lazy to read this whole thread but i just thought i would mention that its not the best idea to carry your book with you when you do go out because if the cops end up searchin your bag and they see paint, the peices in your book, and all your peices around the city....YOUR FUCKED!!! i used to carry mine with me so if i forgot how to do a sertain peice i could just look at my book but then i realized how much of an idiot i was...peace

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if youre out past curfew, just say you are coming from a club or something. if you dont look like you are dressed for a club, say that you were handing out flyers for a party outside and are going home. or you were spending the night at a friends house and your mom called and demanded that you come home because she didnt like that friend....just say some dumb but believable shit.

but if the cops want to search you, they can search you whether or not you think you have "rights". they know your rights, and so do you, but look at it this way. a cop sees a couple kids walking around town at a vey late hour. his immediate assumption is either that you are selling/doing drugs, going to rob a store, or doing graffiti. there is probably no fucking way that he is just gonna drive by without thinking anything.

so if a cop wants to search you, it will happen whether you like it or not. if you are searched and have graff material on you, say that this is your first night out bombing and you just left your house and you never hit anything up before and act all scared. give the name of a writer you dont like, and say that he is teaching you. some thing dumb, but believable.

if a cop has pulled up to you, and is getting out of the car to search you, and you KNOW that you will absolutely be fucked, either throw a can at his face, or spray paint in it, and run like a motherfucker. throw your shit in some dumpster so you can run faster. HIDE in a dumpster or something.

if you are caught, and the cop is asking you questions, say that you will not open your mouth until you have a lawyer present. you will then most likely be hauled off to juvy/jail and be held there until your charges are brought before you, at which point, the public pretender will tell the judge whats up. if you are taken to the police station, then i donr know what to tell any of you, because i have never been there.

PUBLIC DEFENDERS SUCK! i speak from experience. they will not get you off the hook, only leave you dangling. they are all about bringing your charges down, not getting rid of them. if you have a felony, they will try to bring it to a misdemeanor. you will be charged with something.

 

so if you are being asked questions about what you are doing out late at night, say some dumb shit, "oh we are coming from dennys going to my friends house cuz theres supposed to be some party right now"

if you are being asked questions about what the paint is for, say its for your girlfriend, she loves to get high off it, and if you dont bring her any, she wont give you any pussy. say its for a tagger you know from school, and hes paying you to get it for him. say that you found it in an alley, and took it because you nevr know what you can get for it. ive seen a bumb selling scissors once....

 

big up to phaelz and delr

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Originally posted by decay.absk

so if a cop wants to search you, it will happen whether you like it or not. if you are searched and have graff material on you, say that this is your first night out bombing and you just left your house and you never hit anything up before and act all scared. give the name of a writer you dont like, and say that he is teaching you. some thing dumb, but believable.

if a cop has pulled up to you, and is getting out of the car to search you, and you KNOW that you will absolutely be fucked, either throw a can at his face, or spray paint in it, and run like a motherfucker. throw your shit in some dumpster so you can run faster. HIDE in a dumpster or something.

 

 

sorry to pick this apart but im trying to help you out and whoever reads this thread.

 

Do Not say you were about to go bombing....they will give you hand you an "intent to do graffiti" case and you will end up in court. if this worked for someone before, man did you get off lucky. personally, i have been stopped with markers and spraypaint when i was underage. markers like streaks and shit are easier to talk you're way out of (ex: used for posterboards, school project, etc). as long as they have no proof you were using it illegally, it very difficult for a cop to slap you with anything.

if caught with spraypaint, i dont want to give out my secrets but be a little more creative than saying "i was about to use it to illegally deface this property."

 

i dont suggest anyone throwing or spraying a can in a cops face. the punishment will be a lot stiffer if you get caught for that, as opposed to getting caught bombin. the best thing to do is run like hell.

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If you maced a cop you would getr the death penalty.

A dude got life in proson for spitting on a cop.

 

And always have a good cover story. Maybe even practice your cover story. If you use a mop You could carry some band shoes be like " officer, my shoews have too looik clean"

I'm a idouto and I cahnt spoel like worht shit. menudo rocks.

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Originally posted by ODS-1

If you maced a cop you would getr the death penalty.

A dude got life in proson for spitting on a cop.

 

And always have a good cover story. Maybe even practice your cover story. If you use a mop You could carry some band shoes be like " officer, my shoews have too looik clean"

I'm a idouto and I cahnt spoel like worht shit. menudo rocks.

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHA HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT

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Originally posted by REGULATOR

yea dude..you learn alot from the discovery channel....any ways...some copters have fuckin heat sensors on that shit, so they can see you, only hope is to hide in under something, not a tree or nothing, and make sure nothing is visible to the sky

 

you can hide in a pine tree...they give off heat...

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you can say any thing to a cop as long as you put " i think in front of your sentance" such as i think you need to get up outta my buisness and leave me alone

they cant do any thing just give you a look, and if your gunna go out bombing do your home work first dont say ohh good spot lets hit it now with out even scoping for a day or two

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Originally posted by porque

...if you are searched based on the notion that you smell like weed, then they are searching you for weed...not paint...if they find paint that is in no way linked to your smelling of weed... remember having paint is not against the law (...yet?) They will ask you why you have paint so be able to come up with a good excuse...Lying is essential to getting away

 

to further prove this point think about this... let's say the police have all kinds of evidence that i am selling drugs...they spend weeks and weeks getting proff and finally have enough for the magistrate to issue a search warrant for my house... upon busting in to my house they find: a prostitution service in my living room, an illegal casino in my bedroom, a conterfeit money lab in a clost and a full out cock fight in the basement... since their warrant is for drugs they can not arrest me for any of these other crimes, because before entering my residence they had no proof of such things... Being stopped on the streeet is the same way, if they search you looking for one thing and they find something else they can't do anything about it...esspecially if what they find is not in itself illegal (paint) but only implies by assumption an illegal activity...

 

 

ha ha ha... well thats funny but its wrong. if a police is chasing some one and that person goes into ur house.. and ur house is a drug house.. and they find stuff after they have busted that person. they can get u for the drugs.. two busts in one nite.. stuff like that happens all the time.. so lets hope all that above never happens.. ha ha

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Just be straight with the coppers

 

Cops like anyone that doesn't give them an ounce of trouble. My uncle is a cop and half the time he just lets the kid go even if he knows he is guilty as long as:

 

1. They are totally cool with him and don't cause a scene and

 

2. As long as they aren't guilty of a serious crime that involved any victims. A kid spraying up a wall out where the only people wondering around are bums isn't really much of a criminal.

 

And remember, cops are your friends when you are painting and a couple gangsters decide to chase you off.

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if the coppers get some sketches of your write can they still charge yo for it? like if they took them from your bag or somthing. is that enough to charge someone or do they have to catch you in the act pretty much no mater what? they cant charge you for every tag and bomb and everything can they? i hope not. but can they? and if they do will their case old up in court? will they drop the charges when my lawyers involved? can the evidence be croos examined till theres no point?

 

just wondering if you can get fucked over that easy.

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Oz laws

 

Ok im in Australia, Sydney this is our current satus of laws, to my knowledge.

 

1 it is illegal to buy paint unless over 18 anywhere.

 

2 if u are found with paint on a train, street or a anywhere in a public place, you can be charged n paint seized, you cannot possess paint markers, caps or etching tools anywhere in public.

(some cases are exzempt eg if u are painting a legal wall n can provide a phone no or written letter off the person where its being done at or for which can explain what your using the paint for .

 

The excuse "im paintiong my bike" for "why u have spray paint for?", is

a bit over stretched when u are found with like 10 cans of diff colours for e.g.

 

lol "officer im painting my bike rainbow colours?"

 

3 if u are caught doing graffiti, u can recieve large fines, comunity service or even the extreme, jail time.

 

4.If u get caught, n the police see the tag, they'll refer back to police records n search for that tag, e.g if anybody reports graffiti on their building etc the police will take photos n keep em in a folder, eventually creating files on every known writer, n when u get arrested if the cops or vandal squad know of you they'll bring out the file n basically question u on every seperate report of ya tag sighting to see if u admit to it or not, but most times they wil still charge you for the lot anyways, because they'll say "It's the similar letter style so it's all you."

 

5. & if u are found with a sketch on u, they won't charge u, but photo copy em, n basically record it with ya name, if that tags comes up anywhere they can refer back n try n charge u.

 

Altho ive been stoped by police in Brisbane (in daytime mind you), riding a push bike with no helmet, n with a bag on the street.

The cops asked to search me i refused they said "Too bad" searched me anyway, found paint n a sketch n told me to go to court, i went to court argued the charge, i got off it all n my paint returned.

 

How?

Only because my lawyer argued that i was illegally searched in the 1st place n there was no reason validating why they needed to search me, because i had offered them id.

The cops defence in court was " We stopped him for no helmet on a bike asked him for id upon the defendant obtaining id we heard his spraycans rattling in his bag, so we searched."

 

FUK OATH cops lie, i am not that dumb, i never made my bag rattle its all about practise if u stand ya cans up in a bag, they can be controled in the bag with out making any noise.

 

So yeah i know DEFF that they didnt know what was in my bag, but at the time they argued on the street , "We have the right to look in your bag because u could have drugs a gun or even a bomb perhaps"

Which is a load of shit really.

Police probable cause is what ever they want, if their suspicious about u trying to hide something, they'll wanna search u cause they think u have somethig to hide.

Supposedly u do have right to say "No", but they will make up a reason to say why they searched ya.

 

Anyway just a scenerio that if u fight the law there is a chance to win. but not entirely always.

Peace....

Zinar .....

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sounds obvious but you gotta know the area your bombing. me an a mate had to run from the cops in a part of walthamstow we didnt know and ended up in a dead end and my mate had to smack the cop as he came round the corner to give us time to get away. as stupid as it is to hit cops i gotta admit it was one of the coolest things i ever saw.

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