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So, I didn't get in to art college.........

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I don't know what to do. I'm so upset, and I can't do anything about it, except put a stupid little post on the internet. How ineffectual is that exactly? A large part of how I fucking see my life and self just fucking died, and its epitaph is a pointless little post. A nice metaphor for the rest of my existance. I want to die

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Originally posted by -Rage-

Did you only apply to one school?!

 

 

there are three art colleges. One is too far way. the other also rejected me.

 

 

I did very well in my Leaving Cert, I can go to just about any school I want - to do just about any course. Except the art colleges - I had to prove I was good at art for them. Clearly I failed

 

 

 

i feel like ive been kicked in the stomach

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Kick em back....

 

 

 

 

 

...with a brick through the window. :D

 

 

NOW THAT'S ART!

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Originally posted by -Rage-

Kick em back....

 

 

 

 

 

...with a brick through the window. :D

 

 

NOW THAT'S ART!

 

 

you made me smile. thank you

 

 

 

I really did put shit that mattered to me in that fucking portfolio. I feel like they judged and rejected my life experience or something. god I hurt

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i love how you word things...

 

you sure are an effective writer... *hint* *hint*

 

or just sit back and keep telling yourself "ehh im just ahead of my time, their too feeble to understand me"

 

nah seriously tho its cool, i didnt go to college so i can get my certifications for building computers an everything, the test cost 300 dollars and i failed it twice, i spent 2,500 on courses and w00t there went 3100 dollars of the money i earned picking cigarette butts up outta the car parkinglot in front of a major route so i was seen by like millions of cars a day. i was only getting paid at like 7 something an hour so that money was like 19 years of work... get your shit together and try again i guess...

 

my cousin got into the new york college of arts or some shit by drawing a sheet on a clothsline blowing in the wind while people were getting rejected doing their rendition of famous art pieces and shit who woulda thought?

 

im about to take a shower and start studying again, probably to only spend 300 more dollars to be told im a failure again. i figure if i hit 6 or 7 times ill just get certified :lol: or become homeless trying

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shit im not down an out about it, im kinda expected to fail. so when i fuck up heh sadly its nothin new im just kinda unnerved about the amount of money i spent this time around to be told that.

 

seriously im trying to get my shit together thats why i have a bazillion posts and im on all the time... well see what happens, bodices to intelligent to settle for anything less than she aims for i believe so i bet shell be straight wether she knows it or not

 

*group hug for the losers* :D

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Originally posted by iCEBERG

shit im not down an out about it, im kinda expected to fail.

 

See thats just it. I'm expected to succeed. By everyone - My family, my girlfriend and my friends all believe that. Some time in the past a random teacher told my parents that I was intelligent and gifted. And like all parents they took it to heart and ignored all the evidence to the contrary.

 

And they all believe it with such enthusiasm. Even my friends, who should be begrudging and sketptical about such things, believe that I can turn my hand to anything. And it just isn't true.

 

 

Kudos to you for paying your way. You can hold your head up regardless of what you achieve in tests - you are acing the hard part.

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fuck art college, where the fuck is that gunna get ya? broke and unemployed, that's where. get a real job, and do the art for you. when you die it will pay off, i swear.

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Originally posted by Mr. ABC

fuck art college, where the fuck is that gunna get ya? broke and unemployed, that's where. get a real job, and do the art for you. when you die it will pay off, i swear.

 

 

You may be horrified to learn I've heard this before.........I ignored it then too, sorry.

 

Death Before a Desk Job

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real job doesn't = desk job. there are more options open than sitting behind a computer. as you said, your leaving cert kicked ass, you have your pick of what you want to do (well, except art college). but seriously. you don't need an A at school to mean your are good at art or whatever.

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Originally posted by Mr. ABC

real job doesn't = desk job. there are more options open than sitting behind a computer. as you said, your leaving cert kicked ass, you have your pick of what you want to do (well, except art college). but seriously. you don't need an A at school to mean your are good at art or whatever.

 

I know. I should have been a bit clearer about my meaning.

 

I refuse to attend a course based on it's job prospects. I want to attend a course that I feel will better myself as a human being. For me, that does not include buisness, computers, IT-anything or any of those airy-fairy "communications" courses

 

 

 

(now this is not meant to piss on other people's courses. I don't feel that these would better *me* as a person.)

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who the fuck says your gonna be broke and homeless when u get out of art schooL? i always hear that ignorant bullshit. i know plenty of people that get out of art school and are very happy with their lives.

 

bodice...have u thought about coming to the states for art school? your more likely to be accepted here since you'd be an international student. try looking into SCAD (savannah college of art and design) its a great school.

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Originally posted by bodice_ripper

 

I know. I should have been a bit clearer about my meaning.

 

I refuse to attend a course based on it's job prospects. I want to attend a course that I feel will better myself as a human being. For me, that does not include buisness, computers, IT-anything or any of those airy-fairy "communications" courses

 

 

 

(now this is not meant to piss on other people's courses. I don't feel that these would better *me* as a person.)

 

again, real job doesn't equal anything you stated there.

 

sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and get on with your shit.

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theres been all types of crazy fields of looked into incase this cpu job falls through... as for not getting a desk job you goota look at some crazy fun shit to make a living out of like...

 

food critic = you get paid well to eat at all the fine resturants in the world just so people can hear your opinion on the food. please believe no ones spitting in your food because you give or remove respected customers by the stroke of your pen

 

wine tester

 

tree doctor = you get to go to exotic places and climb up 1500 foot redwoods in order to take tree bark samples in the amazon an do tests on that shit later while trying to not get attack from flying monkeys and poisinous spiders an shit while hanging from a rope. thats a straight job

 

on that same note go fuckin study gorillas in the jungle somewhere

 

marine biolody = dont even get me started about how dope that would be, theres some desktime in all of these but not a unbearable amount

 

go work on carnival cruise ships for cryin out loud. spend your days on a fuckin cruise ship floating around to the most beutifull places in the world. itd be nice going "hmm well my day offs next wed. an were gonna be in fucking jamaica so i think im gonna spend the day there doing whatever the fuck i want with jamaicans"

 

go become a sea crabber person in the arctic where you can fall off the deck if your not tied down and sweeped into the arctic oceans to be frozen alive so someone could have crab meat in their fucking 10 dollar sandwich

 

as for me bettering myself through my work i personally feel that my time doing that would be better spent doing just that. i feel you on the self improvement tip. thats why ive always kinda wanted to be a psychologist

 

get creative thats all

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Taiwan -

 

 

I can't afford it. anyway, I'm through with even trying I think. I've already dropped out of one course to pursue this whole art thing, I'm not sure if its wise to throw another year at it................

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Originally posted by Mr. ABC

 

sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and get on with your shit.

 

 

my shit = art

 

 

 

no compromise. no pride to swallow.

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If your doing art for your self, enjoying what YOU do then why be bothered if an establishment doesn't think your work is great? A lot of Art schools judge work on the "Principals" of art, not just the aethstetics which is more over where people put most of there time and effort.

 

I can understand you being upset with rejection from the colleges but what was it that you were going there for anyway?

 

Art doesn't come from text books. I can Understand that with a teachers help you may be able to work better with certain mediums, and certainty a degree in art does help you gain recognition a bit quicker but if your work is good and more importantly its what you enjoy doing im sure it will be noticed eventually.

 

So you wont get into college for art, is there nothing else you enjoy that u cant look at as a major and take art classes also in your curriculum? As hinted earlier you are a good writer......

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Originally posted by High Priest

So you wont get into college for art, is there nothing else you enjoy that u cant look at as a major and take art classes also in your curriculum? As hinted earlier you are a good writer......

 

 

there are no courses with art in the curriculum in any serious way. I agree with your take on college's role in "real" art, however I cannot teach myself to bronze cast etc.

 

oddly enough, your arguments against art college are precisely why I don't want to doa writing oriented course. I believe that with writing - you get taught the basics and then you read your heart out for vocabulary. Either you are a writer or you are not.

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Sorry to hear that girl, i just got kinda kicked out of artschool today, so i feel ya...getting in was a bitch to, anyways i aint feeling very talkative, just dropped by.

Keep it strong

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Quit Sniveling and Come to the States

 

Bodice Ripper---I'm sure Ireland is a wonderful place, but as far as I can see it has rather limited possibilities and potential. It's homey, but too fucking small. Apply online to as many American colleges with an art program as you can find, and don't overlook the little rinky-dink colleges in the middle of nowhere. They desparately want to provide the kids in Podunk, Iowa with some diversified experience, and I think a genuine Irish art student qualifies as exotic in Podunk. Yes, you have to endure a zillion dumbass questions about Ireland, green beer and all that shit (I know, I know, St. Patrick's day is just another day in Ireland, but it's a big deal in Boston and New York) but they will finance your education, or at least partially finance your education, because you are so wonderful and you speak English with a cool accent. Hopefully, you can also draw, or paint so do something artistic enough to justify them spending a bunch of money on you. If you're poor, all the better. Bi-racial? Cool. Your neighborhood full of IRA gun thugs and burned out cars? Fucking outstanding. Come to Podunk and show the cowboys a little Irish class. Once you've done a year or two at Podunk State College and you know your way around the U.S. financial aid/grant/scholarship maze, you can transfer to Parsons or Chicago or Reed or Oberlin or some other place where entertainment doesn't involve drinking beer, horses, pick-up trucks or a large bonfire. Besides that, The U.S. is delightfully unconcious. If you're lucky, most of the student body will be majoring in shit like welding, diesel mechanics, irrigation technology and hotel management, and you will be the guiding intellectual light to a couple of thousand redneck teenagers whose idea of art runs to the Norman Rockwell school. The art department will probably be run by a frustrated Jewish intellectual socialist who went to school somewhere like NYU. He'll be delighted to see a genuine artist show up.

 

Most small towns like Podunk were built on a rail line. My Podunk was right on the high iron between Pasco and Spokane, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. We got about three or four freight trains a day.

 

Don't give up on art school. Get accepted to an American college, get a student visa, pack a ruck and some art supplies and catch a $200 flight to the States. Bring a sleeping bag and a good pair of boots. Leave politics and moral outrage at home.

 

Two English girls I knew back in 1975 jumped the Canadian border and went to work here in the States as nannies. They worked here two years illegally, banked all their money and moved to Matzalan to learn to surf. Last I heard they owned a restaurant in Mexico.

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