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Remi Martin

JURY DUTY

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So, you dont like graffiti ey? All that lawlessness gets you down. Aww, poor thing, perhaps some tax breaks for mulit million dollar corporations would make you feel better. And besides freeways are the best thing ever, all that noise, pollution and dont forget about boring blank ugly soundwalls. Who would want a more effective transit system, or heck even better schools than the ones in Oakland that are filled with black mold and so outdated that kids need umbrellas in the class room when it rains. God forbid kids who have to ride insufficiant transit systems and attend substandard schools get a hold of any paint and commit acts of lawlessness on the freeways. Cause as I said before, freeways are the best stuff ever, just ask jehova, allthough Im thinking Satan has a twinkle in his eye for them. But were not talking religion here, were talking about sending kids to prison and jail for painting freeways. Because lawlessness on freeways will not be tolerated and it makes more sense to send young people passivley yet effectivley voicing frustration to the system with the largest nonviolent offender population world wide, and these people deserve to have their lives wasted at taxpayer expense. And the HUGE amount of money it takes to send young people to prison and jail often out weighs the so called ' Damage ' done. And thats another funny thing, its property getting destroyed in you lawlessness stoppers eyes, but in all actuallity the majority of it is alltering the appearence while adding layers of paint that protect said surface...

anyway, I got more for you to.

gimme a hollar when your prolly white upper middle class self manages to get your head out your ass.

 

Go Fuck Your Self,

 

Glass Etch

 

 

 

Originally posted by JURY DUTY in response to stiff sentences for vandals.

 

 

 

 

I think that santa clara county is getting the hint that vandals need that sort of punishment. Im tired of seeing graffiti in the bay area. Although it is much better now than the last 5 years, my eyes continue to be burned with the sight of lawlessness taking over the freeways. I guess change takes a long time but it is about time they did something about it!!!.

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What, you got nothing to say to me Jury Duty, I see your name signed in.. All that tells me is your some faggot ass yuppie that cant deal with being called names and knows hes wrong. Come on, tell me how im just justifing 'lawlessness' cause schools are substandard and transit sucks. Come on really, who knows, maybe you can show me the light mr. messenger for jehova. Come on pussy, break me off, tell me why Im wrong.

yuh bitch.

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Id also add that those graff cops and politicians who bitch about graff are just as guilty as the writers.Combatting graff is a billion dollar industry and a fat part of the prison industrial complex,so fuck them.Like drugs they really dont want it to end, they just want ot to look like their makin progress.If graffiti ended tommorrowall these assholes would need to find a new scapegoat to pay their bills,get votes or give their life a purpose. Theyd probably join the valiant effort to stop weed smokin or immagrants comin here or street vendors or basically poor people makin a living that isnt akin to slavery.The same morons who sign new tougher anti graffiti/drug laws are the same fools who vote to cut school art programsand rec centers in the inner cities while defending uncle sam's right to hand exxon and mobil billions in free handouts. When you defend any mechanism of the status quo youre propagating evil shit holmes

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Ah, come on, you're just pissed cause you're not getting any of that gravy. All those rich motherfuckers have got the money and influence to get their way, but they don't really want to stop graff, they just want to keep it out of THEIR neighborhoods. If you want to write all you please, and not be fucked with, keep it away from the rich folks' neighborhoods. You can hit industrial shit, trains and freeway underpasses til Doomsday and nobody gives a fuck. But that's not what you want, right? You want to go piss off the rich folks. So don't bitch if they tighten the noose. If you were smart, you'd leave them the fuck alone, and tend to your own business instead of blaming them for all the increased penalties, longer sentences and heightened security and surveillance. These guys that hit private property are the people responsible for all the heat. Don't blame the rich folks. They are just doing what they do best---make money like they own a fucking printing press. I just wish it was ME.

 

I wouldn't even have to be a millionaire--just rich enough to not work. Then I would sit on my lazy ass and hire people to do all the shit I don't enjoy doing. And if you had the money to do so, you'd do it too.

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Jury Duty is advocating long jail and prison terms for non violent offenders. Thats what pisses me off. He would rather see kids and young people locked up for painting, than fix schools or transit.

 

the rest of what you said Kabar, is irrelevant.

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Guest JURY DUTY
Originally posted by GLASS*ETCH

What, you got nothing to say to me Jury Duty, I see your name signed in.. All that tells me is your some faggot ass yuppie that cant deal with being called names and knows hes wrong. Come on, tell me how im just justifing 'lawlessness' cause schools are substandard and transit sucks. Come on really, who knows, maybe you can show me the light mr. messenger for jehova. Come on pussy, break me off, tell me why Im wrong.

yuh bitch.

 

 

you gave me my own topic you think about me too much..

after you get caught and go to prison, ill be paying for that too. but i dont give a shit. im doing just fine.

see you later cup cake.

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So you molest altar boys to?

So thats all you care about, your tax breaks, your rich neighborhood and the right to drive down boring freeways. Ha, must suck to be you. Shit you want me to go to prison? So you want a culture to go to prison for painting. Thats pretty narrow minded there guy. Thats all you got to say, you cant admit that schools are substandard and kids are being deprived of a education. But I guess clean freeways is far more important than clean effective transit and up to par schools that are on point with the rest of the world. But hey im just some vandal, a narrow minded vandal that wants good schools, effective social programs, no tax breaks for multi million dollar corps. and goverment that is not based on which lobbyist has the most money. Your right, I condone expression on surfaces. Send us all to prison.

And by the way, I only paint legals. Have fun wasting DA tax dollars that could catch your ass rapist on investigating me guy, Im squeaky clean.

Get Robbed Bitch.

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Glass Etch---If you only paint legals, it sounds like to me guys like old Jury Duty have got you toeing the line, unless you don't want to bomb some glitzy neighborhood. Quite frankly, I don't blame you though. The penalties for malicious mischief and vandalism just seem to keep climbing higher and higher. Truthfully, before I found 12 oz., I had no idea the penalty for graff could be so severe. What do you attribute that to? I think that the theory that the government is trying to influence the feeling that the city is out of control is correct. When people see a lot of graff, especially gang tags, they feel like the area is becoming dangerous. It's evidence that there are a great number of lawbreakers or what the general public perceives to be predators in the area, or close by. They get annoyed and start calling the cops for every little thing. The cops apply heat, to get the writers to move away from the cops' precinct, so that the civilians won't be bugging them all the time.

Like I said before, if you don't hit personal property, the heat index falls quite a ways.

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Originally posted by KaBar

Like I said before, if you don't hit personal property, the heat index falls quite a ways.

 

actually the heat comes mostly from public property.

Personal property is a waste of fucking time.

cali is a different than texas. and I know what Im talking about, ive caught a serious case before and have been writing out here for ten years. Yeah I paint only legal shit now, im legit and I get paid to paint my name on business's. And besides people like that sodomy victim Jury Duty whine like painting on freeways is the end of the world yet do NOTHING to either eliminate real social ills or find a proactive solution to the so called problem. The level of hypocrisy in the leadership of the state and the mindset that all the rich mostly white people have is so absurd, that I really triple dog dare Jury Duty to go down to east14th street or San Pablo in Oakland and tell people on the street to report graffiti cause they need to send writers to prison.

Jury Duty is the perfect example of whats wrong with this country, people are so blinded by greed and the "american dream" they are comfortable in the fact that as long as they are fine, nothing else matters. Jury Duty prolly came up middle class and has never even opened his mine to anythig past the 2 generations of suburban living hes so used to. Scared little Bitch. I mean come on now, if painting affects you to the point that your so afraid you want to send nonviolent people to a system designed for murderers and rapists, than your a pansy little pissy pants scared BITCH. Shit driving is about the most unamerican thing you can do, where do you think we would be in the war on terrorism if we had ended our dependency on foriegn oil by using alternitive energy sources 20 years ago and stopped protecting israel.

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fine, ill act like a adult.

 

So Jury Duty,

In my final statement, I feel the course of action your endorsing to end so called "lawlessness" on freeways is far more damaging and counterproductive to the intrests you are seeking to protect. The prison system in this country is due for a much needed over haul as well as the laws sending people there. In fact much of our society is in need of a overhaul. Regrettably this contradicts most commecial based intrests and is not happening fast enough. In the result corps. get richer and remain secure, while the citizens of this country suffer. while you feel lawlessness on the freeways is unacceptable, i feel that needless suffering of a substantial portion of the population when resources are diverted to corporate profit, borders on a crime against humanity. Keep in mind I have the constitutional right to arm myself to the teeth and join a armed malitia, I have no desire to hurt or inflict violence on anyone. I have experienced the atrocitys that provoked the three strikes law first hand, as im pretty sure you have not.

Lets be real here, im white and came up in a well of family. 3 generations of my family can be traced back to this centurys wars. I work and pay my taxes. I really want whats best for all citizens of this country and dont see the authoritys really putting any effective effort to resolve what it has the resources to. I have been through the correctional system, and you know what? Your system is wasting money and lives for unjust reasons.

So I came at you like a man, Im really interested in hearing what you got to say, and further more I would be interested in enlightning you on what can be done to produce a proactive solution to the lawlessness that makes you want to send the youth to prison.

 

with Respect, yuh bitch (JUST JOKING)

 

Glass Etch.

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are you drunk?

 

my family can be traced to alexander the great...among other great warriors.i think thats where i get my high spirit from, cause im seriously a direct decendant of many wariors,conquerors,village pillagers and rapists,to great snobby knights in europe,to slave owners in georgia,to president nixon.

im destined to be some kinda warrior,in a way,i already am.

 

"theres a fyaaaaaaah[fire] and its burning the land."

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my great great uncle is woodrow wilson.:o

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come on Jury Duty, lets have a discussion here...ill be far more polite than that rude fucker oreilly on his show...

i think i have made my points. Further more, i am legitmitley interested in helping you solve the issue of lawlessness on freeways, what you got to lose, and heck, ill even take your insults for payback and then have a intelligent discussion with you...

 

are you game player?

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so Jury Duty, whats up...

Does it bug you that a vandal with a highschool education can prove you morally wrong on your intent to send passive art expressionists to prison? Are you irritated that the goverment you had faith in was more concerned with helping enron get over and find out just how monica blew bill, than prevent a brutal attack that massacered its citizens. Does it bug you at all that the medical will of the voting majority in the state you live in has been refused by the federal goverment. Are you looking forward to mr. bitch, i mean mr. bush's attitude of get used to global warming. And by the way, what bugs you so much about people painting freeways..wasnt the renicaisnce(yeah i know i cant spell) about the huge amount of expression that took place. You would be suprised at where writers have taken their lives...

 

really man...

im interested on what makes you so angry you want someone to go to prison for expression, last time i checked, freedom of expression was a constitutional right. Further more, whats to be done with people who want to defend the constitution in nonviolent means.

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So Jury Duty...

Come on now...

Your just gonna ignore me like that? Geez guy..mister messenger of jehova..fine lets talk religion..

I grew up christian near the birth place of mohammed. I went to church illegally in a gymnasium with a congregation of 600 people and just as many nationallitys. Talk about a spiritual experience, I prayed for my father and freinds when scud missles rained down on my neighborhood. Hell, I still got video footage of my father and the representitive of our father the lord wearing gas masks as patriot missles saved their lives. I am a military brat. I feel I am more patriotic than you could ever hope to be because, after growing up in the middle east I have know what the world is like, shit i been around it over 40 times. My best friends was palestinien, pakistani and swedish...I garuntee I got more culture in my pinky nail than your upper middle class life could ever hope to attain.

Christ, I almost coverted to islam, after growing up a stones throw away from Mohammeds crib, I know the love of the muslim culture, I feel Islam to be in the dark ages right now. Care to recall the dark ages of christianity?

So, Anyways....I have had a pure spiritual experience, that I doubt you could ever encounter on a land with the blood of a massacared indiginous people on it. The spirituality of the native american is pure, and this goverment massacered and did its upmost best to suppress a people.

I DARE YOU TO PRAY TO JEHOVA AND ASK HIM ABOUT WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN.

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i got court on friday.....:(

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I really think that people have bigger problems to worry about than graffiti. Or at least they should. I'm not trying to hurt or piss anyone off. I should be allowed to do my thing, just like the next guy. I try not to step on any toes. If graffiti is illegal, then shit, driving a Ford Explorer should be illegal.*

 

*then again, Ford Motor Company doesn't lobby politicians to decrease the penalties for graffiti "vandalism".

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Guest TECONE SW

ummm... I'm lost... :confused:

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fine, ill talk to myself,

 

originally posted by glass etch impersonating JURY the ho bag DUTY (insert wwf announcer tone and echo)

 

Well Glass Etch, as a upper middle class anglo saxon who commutes exclusivley by myself on freeways, my eyes are burned at the lawlessness that abounds with people painting them. I feel that being a upper middle class single commuter on the freeways I should be completely insulated from all movement visual and otherwise that exists in this country. Further more I insist that people committing these horrible atrocitys should be condemned to a privatized prison poplutation whos system has a horrendous recidivism rate regarding the job it does rehabilitating said nonviolent offenders. I have no concern for incredibly substandards schools that assist in keeping predomintley minority areas econimically suppressed, nor do I share any concern with the fact that our transit system is bursting at the seams, and those who can not afford a car, are stuck with a horribly uneffective means to commute because they can not afford it other wise. Im white and rich dammnit, I want clean freeways and artists in prison. You think about me to much and ill see you soon cupcake.

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MAKING G's

 

A COUPLE WEEKS LATER YOU ARE STILL TRYING TO STIR SOMETHING UP. I JUST FORGOT ABOUT THIS POST.

SORRY, DIDNT MEAN TO FORGET ABOUT YOU OR ANYTHING.

 

TAX CUTS? YEAH MAKE ONE. MORE MONEY FOR ME TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY. SO THE REST OF YOU SUFFER? DOESNT BOTHER ME ONE BIT. I PUT MY TIME IN, NOW I HAVE CASH TO DO AS I PLEASE.

IM SET FOR LIFE.WHILE YOU WASTE YOUR TIME WORRYING ABOUT TAX CUTS AND NON-PRODUCTIVE POLITICAL GRAFFITI, ILL BE PUTTING MY KIDS THROUGH COLLEGE ON THE MONEY I SAVED ON TAXES WHERE THEY CUT A FEW MORE UN-NEEDED PROGRAMS AT SCHOOLS.

ILL BE ON THE BEACH RETIRED AT 45 WITH MY JET SKI. FUCKING 20 YEAR OLD GIRLS WHILE YOU COUNT BRICKS WAITING TO GET OUT OF JAIL... I DONT GIVE A FUCK MY LIFE IS JUST FINE.

NO WORRYS ON MY END. THATS FOR GOD DAMNED SURE.

 

AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY? I PAY TAXES TO COVER YOUR BULLSHIT. IM NOT TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE GO DO SOME PUBLIC SPEAKING AND VOTE OR SOME SHIT. WHATEVER YOU DO, I REALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK.

MAYBE YOU WILL WISE UP ONE DAY SO I CAN SAY "I TOLD YOU SO"

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