fizm Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 it seems that lately since the 'elements', whether you agree with that or not, have been thrown around in pop culture, graffiti has been more emergent in pop videos rather than just hip-hop videos. clothing has graffiti on it, or designs by ex-graf artists. since basquiat and others hit the mainstream art world, there's been a growing appreciation of it, but how long do you think it will take before people (in america) embrace it? we've already seen places like amsterdam, copenhagen, parts of paris, etc. not really care anymore. kind of the same deal with marijuana. what's your take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted Wakowski Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Originally posted by fizm how long do you think it will take before people (in america) embrace it? I'm checking my clock and it still seems that hell won't be freezing over for at least another 376,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years, give or take a few billion centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wilt Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 uhmm....no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoReVeRpHLy Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 anyway the cops can arrest kids they will.whether it will b 4 weed....coke..or garffitti..or shoplifting...anythin they can do,,they will do..so live with it...just keep paintin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pone156tfo Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 It seems that corporate America has to some extent accepted Graffiti to sell their crap to the drones and easily sold masses. But when you get to brass tacks and the nitty gritty of painting, no I don't see a widespread acceptance of Graffiti at least in this century. Most civilians accept the prods and beautiful pieces that TATS Crew and FX, UW do for example. I'm just speaking for where I am. When it cums to tags, fillins, ect they can't stand that and will probably never accept it. And I say now as I've always said the pieces/prods & tags and fillins are the right and left eyes of this thing of ours. I always run into the pieces and prod fans everywhere. And almost 8 times outta ten when I ask someone do they like tags an fillins they say hell no that stuff's an eyesore blah blah blah and soforth. But their quick to add but I like the colorful nice stuff even though I can't read it most of the time. As for weed. I don't smoke for health reasons but if this Government would just wake the fuck up and realize that legalization would just be best for all involved I think we would all be better off. And the tax revenue they could collect from it would probably wipe out the National Dept in about a month or so. Peace Love and Deodorant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 all they need do is creat more legals , like under bridges that no one goes under anyhow , and that will stop a good portion of illegal vandalism in that area . please believe it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 graffiti by it's very nature is illegal - that will never change. The public may get used to 'graffiti art' because Murals are nothing new. and we all know that if you put 2 walls together and say "ok guys.. this wall is legal, so dont paint on the other one ok?" that both walls will be covered in no time. Plus it will be a hell of a lot more stressful getting space on the legal wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pone156tfo Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 One of the things I would do if I won the lottery would be to open a few graffitii parks dedicated to pieceing and whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 graffiti wont be legal until someone makes a million bucks of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fukshitup Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by ~KRYLON2~ graffiti wont be legal until someone makes a million bucks of it I agree, it´s the money that governs us all, unfortunately.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizm Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 eh, the reason i brought it up is...i was thinking...cities should have departments that declare certain walls, bridges, etc legal, and commission them. for $, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest duh-rye-won Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 any writers out there who want graff to become accepted by the public need to do something important: go to your favorite train yard, lay down on the tracks and become a new pic on rotten.com. if graff was accepted, it would be pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceso One SAF Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 hopefully never making graff legal will ruin everything.....enless toys enless beef with endless going over whats the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizm Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 yeah...i understand all that. i just think it would be cool if there was like one city that was a mecca for it, you know. where it was all legal everywhere. it'd become a tourist attraction and shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whoami Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I actually hope graffiti never goes legal because they're would be so many masses or retards, toys and just ignorant morons doing all kinds of bullshit, but when its illegal only a few of them are dumb enough to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WITS Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 If it was legal then it really wouldn't be graffiti now would it? Fuck acceptance. It (graffiti) isn't meant to be accepted. If you want some legal shit to paint on buy some canvas or plywood and make a fucking wall. Yeah. Fuck you and fuck me too. Don't get me wrong.... Legals are fine.. but they aren't really part of graffiti. You know it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyEdEa Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 ahh that is so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizm Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 hm, maybe legals aren't what i was talking about in the first place. i was thinking more along the lines of how long will it take for more than a few people to walk down the street, see some graffiti, and see it as a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pone156tfo Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I have to admit the adenaline rush from bombing is cool. I agree that total legaization is stupid. But there should be more places where people can go and rock shit. In addition to bombin. Which will always be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF FIRE Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Why would you wonder when the world is going to completely accept graffiti? The media has an appreciation for the ones with a great amount of talent, and even try to make money of them, but hey everyone's gotta get their dough one way or another. But most of us aren't making money off graffiti and vice versa. For me, the saddest thing would be for people to stop noticing and start accepting graffiti like it was a regular street sign. If you're not out there to get at least one person's attention, what's the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pone156tfo Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Great Point Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open1 Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 most kids today that i know either have no opinion or like it... so i think that the apathetic group of people today would hate it when they grow older it would take a long time for the young generation of kids that like it would be the majority and lead to a aceptance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON2.0 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by ~KRYLON2~ graffiti wont be legal until someone makes a million bucks of it Yo KRYLON2 there are people makin millions off graff every time some dumbass company puts out a product with graff on it like clothes they are makin $$$...Dont ya remember that thread a while back with the girl in the Victoria Secrets bikini with the shitty ass handstyles on it, you know they made hella $$$ off that shit so it dont matter if people are bankin off it people like ta follow trends as soon as the trend dies down people will go back into there close minded coma like states and jus wait for the next trend ta come along graffiti will never be fully excepted by every one.....:king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pekrock Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 graffiti is illegal and to most its vandalism. therefore it will never be accepted. i had a thought once that graffiti would some day be accepteded because its still new to the world. its only like 30 years old maybe a little more i duno when it started. but there are still people alive that remeber life without graffiti thats why to them such an act is a horrid one. but as the years go by these people are dieing away and the new generation of cattle is growing up with graffiti where to them and some its comforting a way of life or just a visual that has always been there. to kids that live in the city i bet they could never even begin to think whut the world would like without it. and even after all this people will still grow and learn and there property will get writen on. therefore they will begin to hate what they once didnt care about or whuetever they felt. thats why it will never be accepted. understood maybe but accepted no. i think thats whut i wanted to say:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Pone156tfo Peace Love and Deodorant :p :p :p :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 my mum says it looks messy and ugly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer_kid29 Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 It Won't Go Mainstream I'm Sure That Graffiti won't go mainstream because people still think that it;s just a bunch of punk kids breaking things. Jet Set Radio isnt helping any I actually met a kid that thought buners and peices could be done in a matter of seconeds that really pissed me off. Well I would't Expect Graffiti to be accecped by anyone but the stupid teenbop kids who just think its a cool fad. Well FUCK THEM!! Graffiti is Life. ~Peace and One Love:king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uproker Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 commercialism wins again graffiti is in music videos and commercials because certain(most) companies choose to market their goods as "youth oriented" or "counter culture" because kids have the largest disposable income. furthermore to market to rich white suburban kids they market useing parts of innercity life , graffiti for example. it is by no means accepted it just sells products. damn that sounds like an essay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pone156tfo Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 Yup Uprocker but Alas Tis so true............. Peace Love and Deoderant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pone156tfo Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 My parental units ahhh bless them lord for they do not know what they do, thought it was a teenage fad for me. OHHH how wrong they were. I'm far from a teenager now. Peace love and mindless fads that turn into Tough Habits to Break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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