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PAYING FOR GRAFFITI

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HELLO!!! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR GRAFFITI

ILLEGAL = FREE

THIS TOPIC ORIGINATES FROM ME BROWSING E-BAY YESTERDAY LOOKING FOR MOVIE POSTERS TO DECORATE MY WALLS

I CAME ACROSS PEOPLE SELLING FLICKS ON E-BAY

FLICKS!!!????

RARE FLICKS (HAHA) SO WHAT???

ARE YOU REALLY WILLING TO PURCHASE PHOTOGRAPHS OF GRAFFITI

IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE A HOMOSEXUAL, NO IFS ANDS OR BUTTTS

I'M NOT STEPPING ON TOES IF YOU'RE SELLING THEM, CUS WE ALL KNOW A HUSTLE IS A HUSTLE, BUT IF YOU'RE BUYING THEM YOU'RE A SUCKER DUCK!

I'M NOT EVEN GETTING INTO THE CORNBALLS WHO BUY PAINT AND STICKERS AND SHIT, BUT THIS NEXT ONE TAKES THE CAKE:

I HEARD SOME HERB PAYED A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS FOR A BLACK-BOOK WITH PIECES IN IT (WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??!!) THAT KIND OF SHIT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

CAN I GET A WITNESS?

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um i can be a "witness"

 

but i hate to tell you this, but its been going on for a long time....i guess ive just learned to shrug my shoulders and not let it bother me...plus who am i to impose any "rule"...

 

my one problem lies in your conflicting statement, how you seem to abolish any responsibility on behalf of the seller, but completely rip a new one on behalf of the buyer, calling them a "SUCKER DUCK"....so im confused....

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DON'T TRY TO PATRONIZE

YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, AND IF YOU DON'T, THINK A LITTLE HARDER

***HINT: ONE OF THEM IS GETTING MONEY, AND ONE OF THEM IS GIVING IT

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Guest Eski

what people choose to buy and sell is theyre own business mate , they can buy all the shit they like and i doubt theyre going to listen to you . people have bought weirder shit than photos , who are you to tell people what to buy ?

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why would you buy pics of graff when one you can get pics off the net for free...or juss buy a mag containing pictures WTF is the world coming to

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Guest MR BOJANGLES
Originally posted by ~KRYLON2~

why would you buy pics of graff when one you can get pics off the net for free...or juss buy a mag containing pictures WTF is the world coming to

i always say the exact same thing.

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...marb red is the best smoke...

 

and im sorry if you thought i was patronizing, i wasnt...

 

basically you have a double standard...it doesnt make sense...you cant slam one and not the other...so the guy who sells em, isnt a "sellout"(sorry i cant think of a better term)?...you shoot your own arguement in the foot dood....dont get me wrong im right there with ya, as far as buying em, i just think that the seller has to claim some responsibility....

 

actually i would go as far to say that i have more distaste for the person who cops his shit on ebay...why?...well assuming he has put in quality time, he thus has the quality flicks, then one could easliy say that he should know better, he has been around...that they, the "toy"(another term i hate) buying the flicks, is just doing what he is being a "toy", and he is cheating himself...my shoebox sucks, but i still would want to flcik my own NACE or trade for it rather then get it off of ebay...but the guy that has put in the time should know the deal, and should either give it away to someone he deems worthy, or simply put in a shelf in the closet for when he is seventy...

 

 

but then again, i find shrugging shoulders to be the best approach, but im always down for general round table discussions....

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id like to also add that your justification, or rather rationalization that making money cleans someone of any moral sense of right and wrong or duty to something he loves and puts work into is straight fucking repulsive, in my own opinion...that is the same fucking cop-out that the rich greedy tycoons and money grubbing folks use to justify it to themselves when they lie awake in their bed....hope you voted republican....and dont ever let me catch you bitchin' about a system that your are helping to keep intact....

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...im sorry that last part was not really directed at you marbs, it just that way of think irks the fuck outta me, but attacking people isnt a good way to have a healthy discussion...

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Please do not take this as a personal attack, but stating opinions rather then fact is a weak way to present your point of view. Usually an argument backed up with valid facts and citations conveys a message better then an argument backed up with all opinion.

 

Also, being gay should not be something negative. Even if 1% of the US Population is gay, that still a WHOLE lot of gay people. Now imagine all these people beating you..Gay bashing is not tolerated these days..

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if you pay to get your flics developed, are you a sucker? if you pay to get doubles of someone elses flics, are you a sucker? if you werent alive in 1974 to take pictures of NYC subways, and you buy an original flic, so you can have an 'original' piece of history, you're a sucker? sorry we all cant be as cool as you. perhaps if i changed y name to 'newport' and typed in all caps, the world would become more clear to me...

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metallix, your absolutely right, however in this discussion the facts are known:

 

people are selling flicks, and people are buying flicks

 

 

...from here on out it is how you interpret those facts...there is no right or wrong here....its not really a factual arguement, it is an arguement of opinions, and these can get ugly real quick....

 

if i argue the world is flat, then yes you provide a basis of facts to discount my arguement...

 

but in this case its a question of like and dislike....

 

 

if your refering to my ranting about the evils of greed and the rationalization of it....then yes i was on a soap box and have no proof of my accusations...however experience has brought me to that point...im not just being a random anarchist....

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i have no problem buying flicks and paying a nice price for them, provided that goes directly to the artist thats work is featured in the shot...for example, not that you all should need one..if i respect Mr.********'s work and come across him, since he is a artist that puts in a lot of work and and i like his or hers work, then i would have no problem breaking them off a nice price for a signed flick...in fact i feel good about it because i am supporting that artist and would feel completely at ease for paying lets say 20-40 cans of paint for a flick from ten years back...and again, im supporting the culture from within...since graffiti is done on other peoples shit and i view it as art and i like art and collect art, i cant really go buy walls and shit and canvas's are pricey, flicks are the next best thing, not to mention photography is a art within itself....but i can assure you wont find me on ebay shopping for flicks and filled black books......nahhhhh

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come on now people! its e-bay, ofcourse you're going to find stupid shit on sale.

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a few months back i saw a delorean for 14,000 bux and it only had 30, 000 miles on it. i wanted that shit.

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Guest blink_ATX

yeah, what kinda idiot would buy a blackbook???? I would sell mine to some dumbass unsuspecting moron but if i ever saw my shit up on a wall, that fucker better hide, shiiiiiiiitttttt.

 

l0rd Ka0s

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Originally posted by blink_ATX

yeah, what kinda idiot would buy a blackbook????

 

 

i believe one of DONDI's black book was auctioned off. would you be a moron for buying that? even if it cost you a thousand bucks? if you like someone's work, buying their blackbook would be no different than buying a hundred pieces of their artwork. no one is gonna buy your black book blink, because no one gives a shit about you.

 

 

of all the topics ive been ignoring lately, why the fuck did i chose to reply to this one?

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Guest Wilt

"I CAME ACROSS PEOPLE SELLING FLICKS ON E-BAY

FLICKS!!!????

RARE FLICKS (HAHA) SO WHAT???

ARE YOU REALLY WILLING TO PURCHASE PHOTOGRAPHS OF GRAFFITI

"

 

you do it every time you have a roll developed....peace.

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i have mixed feelings on this....i guess it all boils down to whos buying it....i dont agree with jonny hamptons, who has never driven out to the country to scour old hardware stores, sitting on the internet buying his paint collection but on the flip side if i decide i want to collect every color of rusto made in 81 and the one can i cant find and no one will trade pops up on ebay then yes, i may buy it depending on price. i just dont agree with someone buying theyre whole collection, wether it be flicks or paint.....half the fun is getting dusty rumaging through old hardware stores or sitting at the yard watching the trains go by.....i feel like if its readly availible (which a lot of the stuff on ebay is) then why buy it when with a little more work you can go out and get it yourself.......

 

on the same topic though, if your bitching about buying drawings or painting then your just being retarded......you go try and trade a canvas with daim jackass......

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Guest platapie

who gives a shit. if there stupid enuff to buy fliks well they deserve them.

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