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Anti depressants..

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yo iv beeen around. i havent been posting much cuz there hasnt been any threads worth a fuck lately.

 

im doin aiight. bombin daily. i finally made a contact to the other good writer in my town so he hit up my cell and i accidently deleted the message. so im still pissed at that. i have a plan though.

 

thats tight your girl situation is workin out.. youll have to fill me in on the specifics. good lookin out.

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I would'nt fuck with them legal drugs. There's no telling what side effects may occur in the long term.

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Guest Stoney Blaze
Originally posted by avils

 

depression is like cancer of the mind dude. its something that you cant control and you've got a pretty narrow minded view of it.. "oh, if things are bad, go and watch TV... that will make you forget about it" ok, so, imagine if you had no control over your thoughts.....

 

There are volumes of yogic meditation books from ancient times that deal with 'controlling ones thoughts'. A natural ability in all humans that is not easy to learn but is learnable and essential to living.

 

Prescribed drugs may and often hinder (by adding a crutch to) this natural process of mental, psycological and emotional developement.

 

The system man has established in this world is fucked up ( it creates wars and makes monsters out of men) and so it is easy for one to get depressed. But still, the ability to find peace within is attainable.

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Originally posted by ASER1NE

i have nothing useful to add .

 

dude, you gotta cut it out. it's a good thing all canadians aren't as annoying as you.

 

 

depression. hmmmm. This is tricky for me. now i understand bi-polarism and chemical imbalances. I understand the validity of the condition but honestly, and i know i'm going to hear it from the rafters, i have very little tolerance for it. Or rather, i have very little tolerance for it when it's a personal scapegoat.

 

When people are obvious assholes and blame it on being depressed-they get the "do not pass go, do not collect this months perscription of paxil" stare...granted, there are circumstances to justify almost anything that can come up, but when you have a free "say what i want and not feel any consequences" card via depression, your just giving the lowest of the low a bad name.

 

man, i really lost my focus here.

 

anyone who's ever seen breakfast of champions or read the book might remember this qoute

 

"until death, it's all life"....for some, this might lift spirits, for others it might make them go down farther depending on the dosage your doctor has you chewing. either way, there comes a point, condition or not, to "get your shit" together. depression, in my opinion, should not be something that can be blammed for not being able to do that.

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Originally posted by blahblahblah

 

dude, you gotta cut it out. it's a good thing all canadians aren't as annoying as you.

 

 

depression. hmmmm. This is tricky for me. now i understand bi-polarism and chemical imbalances. I understand the validity of the condition but honestly, and i know i'm going to hear it from the rafters, i have very little tolerance for it. Or rather, i have very little tolerance for it when it's a personal scapegoat.

 

When people are obvious assholes and blame it on being depressed-they get the "do not pass go, do not collect this months perscription of paxil" stare...granted, there are circumstances to justify almost anything that can come up, but when you have a free "say what i want and not feel any consequences" card via depression, your just giving the lowest of the low a bad name.

 

man, i really lost my focus here.

 

anyone who's ever seen breakfast of champions or read the book might remember this qoute

 

"until death, it's all life"....for some, this might lift spirits, for others it might make them go down farther depending on the dosage your doctor has you chewing. either way, there comes a point, condition or not, to "get your shit" together. depression, in my opinion, should not be something that can be blammed for not being able to do that.

 

so where'd you go to med school again, doc ? :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by avils

 

so where'd you go to med school again, doc ? :rolleyes:

 

 

normally, that would of really brought me down, but my doctor upped my dossage to 3000mg

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Originally posted by blahblahblah

 

 

normally, that would of really brought me down, but my doctor upped my dossage to 3000mg

 

i dont take medication so that one's straight over my head.. although my girl did let me up my dosage of bustin out her a$$ to twice daily !!

 

up !!

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Depression & Etc.

 

Depression is just one of numerous mental disorders caused by a chemical imbalance of one kind or another. The chemistry is a physical thing. It's like being born nearsighted or born with a hole in your heart. There's not a damn thing you can do about depression that really matters except take anti-depressants. There are several different classes--the Tri-Cyclic Antidepressants (TCA's) like Elavil or Asendin or Anafranil or Norpramin or Tofranil usually increases the amount of norepinephrine, serotonin or both in the central nervous system by blocking the re-uptake of these neurotransmitters by the pre-synaptic neurons. There are some disconcerting side effects for some people, so medical science prefers to use SSRI's these days.

The SSRI's (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors) work on a different chemical principle than do the TCA's, but they essentially do the same thing, just by a different bio-chemical pathway. SSRI's include the well-known Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Zoloft, and a newer one, Celexa. Medical science does not actually know for sure how SSRI's work, but it is thought that they work by potentiating sertonergic activity in the central nervous system by inhibiting the neuronal re-uptake of the neurotransmitter serotonin.

There is another class of anti-depressants called MAO inhibitors, like Parnate or Nardil. They are very dangerous if you eat foods containing tryophan, tyramine or caffeine like red wine or aged cheese.

Then there are atypical anti-depressants that do not fall into either of these groups, like Trazodone, Wellbutrin, Remeron or Serzone.

Suffice it to say, there are millions of depressed people in the world, and thank God we have anti-depressants to treat them. Sixty years ago they treated depression with a straight jacket and ice water baths. The success rate was low. Today, things are a lot better. There is really no reason for a depressed person to suffer today.

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Originally posted by Gouged out 3rd Eye

ese, since i have NO FUCKING CLUE and im just talking stupid shit, i looked up depression. ive looked in the number of medical science books that are on the book case behind me in my house and found out that depression is a psychological thing (that ive been pretty much saying). cancer is a physical thing. you cant say depression is like cancer. maybe theyre both medical but cancer is an abnormal growth of cells and depression is a mental feeling of hopelessness. you can get over that without medication. you just need to always think in the positive, fuck the negative shit. to get rid of a tumor, you need to remove all of the tumor and follow with radiation or another treatment and hope thats the end of it.

 

did you listen to a word ese or seeking said? real depression, the truest form of it is not something you can get rid of by thinking positive and "fuck the negative shit." it just doesnt work that way.

 

youve obviously never dealt with depression before, and reading in a medical book will not give you an understanding of what depression is and what will make it go away.

 

depression is like an empty feeling inside and most of the time you have absolutely no idea why or how it got there. since you dont know why its there, you cant begin to use positive mental imagery or some equally bullshit way to make it go away. its a disease, as much a disease as cancer, except that its a mental disease with physical causes. you cant will away a pain you didnt see start, dude. it just doesnt work that way.

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Originally posted by Stoney Blaze

 

There are volumes of yogic meditation books from ancient times that deal with 'controlling ones thoughts'. A natural ability in all humans that is not easy to learn but is learnable and essential to living.

 

Prescribed drugs may and often hinder (by adding a crutch to) this natural process of mental, psycological and emotional developement.

 

The system man has established in this world is fucked up ( it creates wars and makes monsters out of men) and so it is easy for one to get depressed. But still, the ability to find peace within is attainable.

 

I'm Native American. My mother was raised on the reservation in a wooden mud structure in a barren desert. My Grandparents died of alcoholism when she was 14. She raised her younger brother and sister until she was 18 and went back to school at 18 in the 7th grade. She graduated after three years at age 21 and proceeded to make a life forherself and me and my sister as a single parent.

I've never seen her deppressed, drink alcohol or heard her complain.

Because of this, I have no sympathy or verifiable reason to believe that one cannot cope or control their thoughts and emotions.

 

I guess depression is reserved for the weak of heart and the overpriveliged.

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fuck you bitch. depression isnt caused by the shit youve been through. it affects how you react to things. its something that is caused by a chemical imbalance. obviously, your ma didnt have a chemical imbalance and neither do you. by the way, go fuck yourself.

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depression is having a roof over your head, a job, a girlfriend, some sort of unique skill, a diploma, a future and not being able to feel anything for that. you could be the best fucking artist in the world but yet think you are the worst, you could be told this by thousands of people and yet deep down inside you think that everyone is just trying to be nice to you. dont mistake it for ungreatfulness, depressives are some of the most greatful people in the world but when your day to day struggle of waking up, coping with life, and not being able to break your hopless thoughts get in the way, you yourself become hopless. its like cause and effect. you eat food you become full, you drink alcohol you get drunk, when a depressive succeeds at something he or she feels nothing, getting a job, completing a goal, painting a dope production, whatever there is no effect. this adds to the already huge pile of shit that he or she feels. why the fuck can't i be happy i just painted a whole car? what the fucks the matter with me. this goes on and on and on until that person accepts that there is no effect to their actions on thier own self esteem or confidence and the only true goal is to live one more day. dont talk shit about something you know absolutely nothing about. just respect that you dont understand and that its not effecting you, your family, or someone close to you.

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Originally posted by seeking

id be willing to bet that a large number of folks on this board either have been on anti-depressants, or have had dr's try and prescribe them. writers as a whole tend to be a fucked up group, so having emotional issues is sort of par for the course.

dont listen to anyone that tries to give you that bullshit about how drugs just fuck you up worse and you just need to play more volleyball or something. they have no idea what they're talking about and they're just scared of their own mortallity. i've, at one point or another, been on a vast array of drugs. some worked, some didnt. some worked for a little while, then stopped, some took months to start working.

i know im just rambling aimlessly, but this is a subject ive had alot of experience with, and i get pretty defensive of it.

stay on the drugs for as long as you can bare. they all take atleast a month before you're going to feel any change, so obviously you have to stick with each one for atleast that long. every person is different and they react differently to different drugs. but its not at all uncommon for the depression/anxiety to actually worsen for the first couple months. thats 'normal' and as long as you remember that, its alot easier to put up with.

 

ok, i just ate a bunch of thai food and now i really have to shit. thats all.

seeks

 

well seeking is mean to me but i have to say word to this reply....

 

writers are a whack bunch or i owuldnt be associated with this stuff anyway...

 

ive take shit for bieng ADD since i was like 5, i took sylert, then ritalin, then adderrall, zoloft, prozac, and finally im on metadate CD.

 

with the exception of zoloft and prozac, all those 4 others is nothing but speed.

 

and adderrall is dexatrine, yes the diet drug from the early 70's that turned into speed, basically adderrall is like a crystal meth that you can swallow as opposed to smoking it or snorting. this shit is whorribble, it put my ass in the hospital due to violent mood swings, basically i was a speed freak.

 

I still am, umm i,ve been on speed since i was like 5.

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Guest Stoney Blaze
Originally posted by ODW

fuck you bitch. depression isnt caused by the shit youve been through. it affects how you react to things. its something that is caused by a chemical imbalance. obviously, your ma didnt have a chemical imbalance and neither do you. by the way, go fuck yourself.

 

You sir are weak hearted, overprivilaged and have no excuse for your deppression. Go live in a 3rd world country and then you'll have an excuse to be depressed.

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Originally posted by Stoney Blaze

 

You sir are weak hearted, overprivilaged and have no excuse for your deppression. Go live in a 3rd world country and then you'll have an excuse to be depressed.

 

id really like to kick your ass, on so many different levels.

 

first of all, your idea of attaining peace for the normal human being in my opinion is complete bullshit. at this point, me trying to attain peace of mind is hilarious because i feel like shit and i dont even know why! yes, medicines are a crutch, and like someone with a broken leg, a crutch is there to help you get better until you dont need it anymore. so the majority of us unenlightened folk may need a "crutch" to get by. i thought i could do fine without meds and i feel more like shit than i ever did before i started them. im starting to second guess my boldness to get off meds.

 

it sounds like you dont know the first thing about depression or what it feels like, so take your new world bullshit off my wave because frankly, im at a point where i dont want to hear it. that may sound shallow and narrow-minded, but its the truth. i may be "overprivilaged and have no excuse for my depression" but i have it. so quit coming down on these people for trying to explain to you what it really feels like to feel this way, because you have no fucking clue, buddy.

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Guest Stoney Blaze
Originally posted by railroadjerk

 

id really like to kick your ass, on so many different levels.

 

first of all, your idea of attaining peace for the normal human being in my opinion is complete bullshit. at this point, me trying to attain peace of mind is hilarious because i feel like shit and i dont even know why! yes, medicines are a crutch, and like someone with a broken leg, a crutch is there to help you get better until you dont need it anymore. so the majority of us unenlightened folk may need a "crutch" to get by. i thought i could do fine without meds and i feel more like shit than i ever did before i started them. im starting to second guess my boldness to get off meds.

 

it sounds like you dont know the first thing about depression or what it feels like, so take your new world bullshit off my wave because frankly, im at a point where i dont want to hear it. that may sound shallow and narrow-minded, but its the truth. i may be "overprivilaged and have no excuse for my depression" but i have it. so quit coming down on these people for trying to explain to you what it really feels like to feel this way, because you have no fucking clue, buddy.

 

I live in this fucked up world too buddy and have suffered from depression.

It is'nt new world. It's ancient, human understanding. Depression is ancient. It's written about in the bible and covered in many ancient writings.

The Buddah himself suffered from depression and had written extensively on how to liberate yourself from it.

 

The unexamined life is not worth living. - Socrates

 

I suggest you examine a way out of your depression instead of poisoning yourself with God knows what is in them drugs.

You will see that pills will have no effect in the long run.

 

I have no further comments on this subject so any negetive responses will be unattended.

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Originally posted by blink_ATX

 

well seeking is mean to me but i have to say word to this reply....

 

writers are a whack bunch or i owuldnt be associated with this stuff anyway...

 

ive take shit for bieng ADD since i was like 5, i took sylert, then ritalin, then adderrall, zoloft, prozac, and finally im on metadate CD.

 

with the exception of zoloft and prozac, all those 4 others is nothing but speed.

 

and adderrall is dexatrine, yes the diet drug from the early 70's that turned into speed, basically adderrall is like a crystal meth that you can swallow as opposed to smoking it or snorting. this shit is whorribble, it put my ass in the hospital due to violent mood swings, basically i was a speed freak.

 

I still am, umm i,ve been on speed since i was like 5.

 

 

i have ulcers in my stomach from adderall. i cant eat pills so what do i do now? nor can i rail them because it all goes to the same place pretty much(the drip)..my body is fucked..i think i should become straight edge or atleast have a chem-free week.

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Originally posted by Stoney Blaze

 

I'm Native American. My mother was raised on the reservation in a wooden mud structure in a barren desert. My Grandparents died of alcoholism when she was 14. She raised her younger brother and sister until she was 18 and went back to school at 18 in the 7th grade. She graduated after three years at age 21 and proceeded to make a life forherself and me and my sister as a single parent.

I've never seen her deppressed, drink alcohol or heard her complain.

Because of this, I have no sympathy or verifiable reason to believe that one cannot cope or control their thoughts and emotions.

 

I guess depression is reserved for the weak of heart and the overpriveliged.

 

 

hero,

 

did your mom get cancer whilst she was growing up ? no ? does that mean that people with cancer are weak and overpriviliged ? she never drank, so people who do are weak and overpriviliged right ?

 

no love.

 

:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Stoney Blaze

 

You sir are weak hearted, overprivilaged and have no excuse for your deppression. Go live in a 3rd world country and then you'll have an excuse to be depressed.

 

weak hearted? try giving and giving to every person that means so much to you and getting shitted on everytime in return. overpriviliged? i work and have worked for everything i have. im in college only because i pay for everything. but youre right, i guess only those in 3rd world countries have a reason to be depressed and suicidal. good argument kid;) ;)

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oh and by the way, the pills are working. all my friends have told me how much theyve noticed how much happier iv been. so there you go.

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Originally posted by ODW

weak hearted? try giving and giving to every person that means so much to you and getting shitted on everytime in return. overpriviliged? i work and have worked for everything i have. im in college only because i pay for everything. but youre right, i guess only those in 3rd world countries have a reason to be depressed and suicidal. good argument kid

 

:king:

 

also, stoney.. if you're native american, where's this 3rd world argument come from ? coz uh.. last time i checked, america wasn't on the list.

 

UP !

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im so depressed right now...the only thing that wouldmake me not want to kill myself is if i get a girl. right now the only thing that make me happy is greg the bunny and albino chinese midgets playing kickball

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Originally posted by REGULATOR

im so depressed right now...the only thing that wouldmake me not want to kill myself is if i get a girl. right now the only thing that make me happy is greg the bunny and albino chinese midgets playing kickball

 

i need to flow you the number o that 17yr old bitch who wants me to get all up in that a$$... hows that sound fool ?

 

i got yo back.

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