I don't know about that. This is a personal opinion so don't get it twisted, but it just doesn't seem "them". I figure they painted with komar, and he showed them some stuff, cause you seriously can't deny the influence. But i remember the old dre and edam stuff...the raw newark style. mad throwies, more natural, bomber stuff. not a fan of the new stuff, but that's me. not looking to start an argument, but express a thought on a messageboard. didn't think that was possible! maybe it's not on here... But to each their own! Cheers!