thats true, but i remember looking back at a few tr*nce, gi*o, p*zle and m*rda peice's, when i was younger and thinking to myself, what the fuck! thats taking it to the next level, thats mental! and to know that they were producing walls like that with the quality of the paint back then, now thats mind blowing. they were ahead of there time, just like the guy's pushing the boundaries these days.