And for the record createdestruct.. Dicer is my folks. Like I mentioned quite awhile ago, he got into graff about the same time I did way back and that fool has never really taken a break from the game.... straight through, year after year, he's been doin his thang and puttin in work.... sure you probably haven't seen him up on the freeways too much in the past few years but that's because he's been paintin hella freights... I only said that he's slackin on his mackin cause his style evolved quite a bit from his simpler shit I remember him doin waaaay back when I used to paint with him before I took a several year break from the game, to the shit you saw in that 05 pic and when I first seen that shit I was blown away! ..but in all the years since then, for the most part his style hasn't necessarily progressed much further.... that doesn't mean he hasn't been rockin some shitty go dumb rawass pieces tho... he routinely comes way doper than me and considerably faster too, he's a beast and it's true young buck, as you're still learning, in this game, you truly are in no position yet to criticize pretty much anyone except yourself... you're better off keeping your opinions more to yourself.