but yeah, people being like, internet dick riders is pretty homo. talkin bout bombing science and shit, i never even been on that. straight 12oz. dudes who follow around other dudes to other forums is groupie status. that's all them cats are is graff groupies. but everyone starts somewhere, and not everyone thinks they're good enough to move up to the better threads. like you said, king of toys is still a toy. i'm not complete shit like a lot of these people are, but i admit that i'm a toy. i'm still learning, and i have a lot to learn about letter structure, filling and making shit flow. plus like i said, it's just a friends thread.. most of the time.