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using spy drones on american citizens? this has gotten way out of control.

"Let's look around the world at living conditions...I mean America. The world is much bigger than USAUSAUSA you keep talking about. You ever been in a 3rd world slum? What you posted is not that bad compared to the conditions millions of people around the world live in." i meant take a look around at the worlds living condition, then proceeded to post pictures of american grime as an example because thats where i, my family and others live at daily. you know all you do is take everything i say and ridicule me for it rather then trying to add to the discussion. i am aware about 3rd world slums...but i wouldnt be in any place to try and discuss there conditions of living because i dont know how there day to day life is. but i can speak from the stand point of someone who knows american grime seeing as i live in oakland as of right now. ive also been through cleveland atlanta and D.C. and seen living conditions of people there as well as the family i have there. people who live in places like brazil india africa etc have seen 1,000 times worse poverty then people from america. But in a country that supposedly is the most powerful and liberating country in the world, why are 14% of its citizens living impoverished? we seem to have enough money to buy a massive arsenal of weapons, but we cant even help people reach a decent standard of living? .......?

then it would seem that the entire system of governance within society would need to change. not just the individuals who control and abuse the power.

so you support the fact that a group of a few hundred people make decisions that affects the billions on human beings on this earth? live your life accordingly? what if people didnt revolt against oppressing forces? If the 13 british colonies decided to live there lives accordingly to the way king george III saw fit, america wouldnt even exist....

freedom is not something man made, when you are born, you are truly free. BUT in society, these days you are born and then forced into society therefore you have no true freedom. If i wanted to go run away into the mountains and build my own house from scratch, the government would knock on my door and tell me to get off "government land" what? how the fuck does government own land? the only reason they are able to regulate all of this is because when your born your given social security #, a full name, they take your ethnicity, the name of your parents etc etc and then put you into the system without you ever agreeing. They now have the ability to control/regulate anyone compliant with the system. And by your parents submitting all your information into this system, you are now forever a part of it. there is no getting out of it.. you dont have a choice. so within "society" freedom is something that can be controlled and regulated, but outside of our own established system is TRUE freedom. If fairness isnt real and is made up, then why do we use it as a foundation of society? court was established to even out fairness amongst the prosecutor and the prosecuted...thats why theres a jury of your peers. anyway it isnt about fairness its about right or wrong, which everyone in the world has a differnt stand point on. so really this seems to be a never ending argument... well, i still stand by the fact that this builderberg group can suck a dick.

i dont think they just sit around and talk about ways to take away freedoms and make living hard for everyone just for fun. But i do think if it would make them enough money and give them power, they would take away lots of things without hesitation. they also wouldnt loose a wink of sleep ethier. i think the outcome of there plans affect lots of people around the globe and they dont really care, as long as they keep getting paid which i think is fucked up. lets look at the conditions of living around the world. these pictures are from america. does this seem fair to you?

you just admitted to it. rich and powerful run the world... i guess the question now is are people going to accept it, or are they going to do something about it? most will sit around at say: "owell they all ready control the way i live my life, i guess ill continue to let it happen even if they decide to force my country into war for there own benefit and let police officers mistreat and abuse its own citizens" look how much police brutality this country has in its history...especially towards people trying to fight for equality and freedoms and other things a man should have when he's born. So if enough people woke up to this very real problem, and retaliated in the streets about it... im willing to bet we would be met with MAX ammount of resistance by the police. just like blacks were met by federal troops from the government who JFK sent to control the situation...when all they were doing was trying to establish there natural rights and freedoms has human beings in this country.

"if rich, greedy people didnt rule the world you wouldnt have all the fancy shit you have" what a twisted world view you have...

i have no factual data that proves anything about a possible ultimate plot....but thats the thing, no one does. From another point of veiw, no one has information regarding the fact that they are sitting around discussing ways to make the world better etiher, so thererfore, ruling out the possibility that a "devious" plan COULD be devised and IS being devised isnt out of the question. why do i care? the fact that there is a POSSIBILITY that our natural human rights and civil liberties are controlled and regulated by a group of greedy rich selfish people who determine the standard of living around the globe to benefit there own personal lifestyles is something that dosent sit well with me. Thats why i care, and i hope other people care enough to not sit around while JUST MAYBE people might be behind closed doors regulating the way you and i live our lives. in summary: Knowing what i know now, that the builderberg group has existed and kept its secrecy for years and continues to hold meetings annually makes me very suspicious about the whole thing, that is all.

^^^^^ i dont smoke weed these days. anyway, is it paranoia? maybe..but the way people are so greedy these days i wouldnt be shocked if they were plotting ways to stay rich and powerfull while keeping the rest of the population down and out.

who cares if i started the thread in channel zero? the last time i posted anything on 12oz was in 2007...i dont know how every little thing works here but why should it matter where its posted when the point is to show people that a group like this exist because many people arent even aware of the fact. i have started the same discussion on other sites. i remembered 12oz and figured id come back to start a thread here aswell...the point was to spread the word as much as possible. "nobody cares about this topic because what exactly is there to care about?" -and im the naive one? please. if something like this dosent concern you then what will? "nothing from you but a vague speculation on a subject you are clearly new to" seriously? obviously im new to the subject...what did you expect? for me to come on here and start preaching about the subject? this is a forum for discussion, not a place where i come to lecture about things i know.

how long are you gonna go on about that ludacris thing? LOL. what do you want me to do? correct the error? ok, Ludicrous* are you happy now? am i supposed to feel bad about making a grammatical error? well i feel terrible.....im so glad you came along to correct my fatal life mistake. thank you kind sir. :rolleyes:

just a few people who i happen to see all over billboards and all over T.v. would you like more names?

you dont feel threatened seriously...? why not? some of the most powerfull people within society decide to meet in secret and nobodys at least a little bit suspicious? i know i am. if kim kardashian, nicki minaj, lady gaga, 50cent, Lil Wayne etc etc all met for a huge secret meeting somewhere every year, the press would be using battering rams to get in the room with these celebs.. im not assuming theres some insane evil conspiracy behind it all....but its definitely been going on and only NOW (the past few years) have people started to hear about it. they have kept it secret for yearssss theres got to be a reason for the years and years of secrecy.

looks the only moron around here would be you and anyone else using sarcasm to mask your mental retardation. this thread isnt about me, so unless you have a real question regarding this actual topic dont bother replying.

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^ case and point.

does anyone have any real imput or are people just gonna keep posting worthless irrelevant pictures? what i find funny is that this group is real but all people seem to do is post pictures of fake cults and/or quote me about ludacris rather than acknowladge actual facts. are peoples iq's really this low...? its probably just the people on this site. :lol:

^ hey guy.. satan..reptillians...aliens...shapeshifters..? what the hell are you rambling about? nobody mentioned any of those things.. all i did was start a thread to inform people who might give a flying fuck, and obviously by reading your response i can tell isnt you. btw alex jones has nothing to do with the fact the the bilderberg group is a real organization....not some regurgitated fairytale conspiracy bullshit.

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they will be meeting in St.Moritz, Switzerland. the swiss media will be covering it this year....nationally. i encourage all you americans...or those who call themselfs americans, to call CNN MSNBC CBS and whoever else, and ask them to get national coverage on this matter... they'll probably ethier deny your claims about the matter or say they wont cover it....for whatever reasons. but hey, people need to start putting pressure on these fucks.

havent heard of the Bilderberg group? i wouldnt be suprised...read and learn. they are meeting in Switzerland this year.... media figure heads, bankers, politicians, and other world renowned figures meet at these meetings and discuss how to become even more rich and powerful at OUR expense. Along with a bucnh of other ludacris im sure.. The mainstream media never covers this type of stuff...im just trying to shed some real light on the fact that this shit is a 100% real and creepy as fuck.. i mean some of the most powerful people in the country and the planet are meeting behind closed doors and no media covers it?!? do your own research. couldnt find alot of solid reporting done on the group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants http://www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDUMEEl_ajM