RA since like '99. Who cares who has been around and which RA crew is "better", to each his own. I've been seeing the Ohio based RA since like the early 2000s and im not here to say which is better, or who puts in more work. As far as im concerned both have put in tons of work and both are from completely different places. It's inevitable that one would not notice the other especially after all these years. Point is, props to both. I dont really understand why they haven't both come together yet though