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These DOUBLE R's Gor turned into these DOUBLE R's

Traditionalist cry cause "good graffiti artist" choose to take shit "further"? I apologize if I'm taking your message wrong but there's very little people taking graffiti "further". How come unless your stuff is really abstract or the letters are fading into thin air or hard to read or unless it looks bugged out at first glance it's not considered unique or innovative? Is Keo, Part or Doc not unique? Was Dondi not ahead of time? What ever happened to style? Whatever happened to letter structure, flow and most of all BALANCE? Anyone can just do some shit that no one understands and call it next level but its not like that. You gotta be able to master the basics, master style but these writers that people say are "next level" or "innovative" "unique" etc aren't any of that. If your burner can't burn alone as a black and white piece without all these stupid fades etc you don't have a burner. You try to add so much movement into your letters or rock it too hard, thats why your P looks like its gonna fall on it's back and break it's head! Thats some ignorant shit to say about traditionalist crying cause good graffiti artist are taking it further. If you ask me most people are doing bugged out stuff or "taking it further" doing abstract stuff cause they can't even do a straight letter, they couldn't burn with a simple if their lifes depended on it. Just a bunch of no style having toys creating a mess calling it graffiti. DOC, SYE, HEWS, BATES, WANE, KEO are people who still do traditional graffiti but still take things further. Their Traditionalist. Then there's people like REAS and RIME who do bugged out stuff but completely have a traditional foundation. Just cause you do some abstract stuff or some "different" looking stuff at first glance doesn't mean your taking graffiti "further" Bring style, and balance to the table and then maybe you can start saying who's taking things further. Lets see your piece done in black and white without fades or smoke and mirrors and then we'll talk about who's taking things "further". You gotta be able to master the rules and basics before you can break them.

He said how real graffiti is supposed to look. Letters, colors, characters all look dope, who cares if it's on a fake train. DOC who did the Pull piece has painted his share of subway trains in the early to mid 80's so I don't know why you're bugg'n

Good looks on the Skeme photos, I haven't some of those before.

I Originally thought Shogun won. I don't really know how the judges score but take a look at the shots landed Round 1 Machida-1L 8B 2H Shogun- 14L 2B 2H Round 2 Machida- 5L 5B 3H Shogun- 15L 5B 0H Round 3 Machida- 2L 8B 10H Shogun - 10L 3B 4H Round 4 Machida- 2L 2B 2H Shogun- 7L 5B 1H Round 5 Machida- 1L 4B 4H Shogun- 7L 1B 4H I don't know if defending the take downs count for any points and I know there is the whole aggression factor too but maybe getting more Head and Body shots counted as more points then the leg shots. It was a unanamous decision though, sometimes it's different when you got score cards and a stop watch. Who knows.

Never seen that silver Virus before, nice catch

Good to see the TONES already in Cali

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Re: NYC Subways - the good stuff I gotta say StayHigh rocked the saint before Tracy did snoopy.

Re: NYC Subways - the good stuff

Re: NYC Subways - the good stuff All stolen

YO 2TECK, GET AT ME MAN.

tars, tabu japan

Does that piece with the black fill and white outline say Tars!? Tars oner imposter!

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Awe and Heat cant be touched. Illest boxcar duo!