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Follow up to the convo about cap adapters before: I bought a couple of cap adapters (male cans to male caps) off the butchershop. I'm gonna go over them a bit, might be a little long winded. It may help out some of the Aussies/NZ'ers and to the Americans considering them for the new rusto. First of all, I'm real sorry to the dude who makes these, it's like a hard kick in the nuts when someone gives your product shit, I know what it's like. Basically the cap adapters are just a piece of brass pipe that's been drilled on one side to fit the can and one side to fit the cap, it looks like they've put it in a lathe and recessed one side of it, the only reason I can see that they've done this is so that you know which side is which. When you put the cap on it it makes the cap sit about 15mm higher than usual, it's a little wierd/uncomfortable but possibly one could get used to it. When you put a cap into it, it seems to shave some of the plastic off the stem meaning it will probably reduce the life of your caps. The way it sprays is pretty shit. There's still no way for it to regulate pressure so it's going full nut all the time. The only thing that will restrict pressure is the hole in the dot of the cap. I tried a massive range of caps with it from NY's, Rustos, a bunch of euro skinnys and fats. They all seem to spray the same size though, about medium thickness give or take a bit depending on the cap. I tried Astros/pinks/oranges/silver fats and they're no where near as fat as usual. The skinnys weren't too bad but still there's waaay too much paint coming out. Possibly all this had something to do with my can control, I'm still pretty toy but I tried a lot of stuff with them and still not much luck. All and all I think these are really overpriced especially since they serve almost no purpose at all. Hope that was of some help to someone out there, if anyone knows of a way to make these things work better I'd really appreciate if someone could let me know.

That's what we've been talking about for the last 10 or so posts. Rabiater and smithxi, thanks heaps for your help guys. I've ordered the converters so I can see what they're like and most likely I'll knock up something of my own, within the next couple of weeks.

I've had the problem with the nib staying in permanently too. Fucking sucks. I've pulled it apart so many times and never been able to find the problem.

smithxi, yeah similar sorta deal, 'cept I wanna go from male to male and you went from female to female. Thanks for posting your tutorial, it's a good start for me to start fucking around with shit. rabiater, yeah I kinda tried that but I gave all my gel pens to my girlfriend haha, the only one I had left wouldn't fit over the stem on the can. How did the modded cap spray compared to it's usual spray on a normal can? I might see if I can get some cheap brass piping and knock something up, shouldn't be that hard...Might post a tutorial if I can get something to work out. Cheers everyone.

Yeah, that's pretty much the plan so far, but they look pretty easy to make. Just a couple of pieces of brass tubing.

If you read my post you spastic fuck you would have seen that it's not a personal attack on you. It was aimed at the people who think that the buff test photos are the be all to end all. If you believe in the 'buffability' of your product you would have agreed with what I had said and urged people to buy your product and test it. If you were smart you would have done it, because more cash for you. Cry me a river.

This 'buff test flix' about DED stuff is bullshit really, and any other ink for the matter. This isn't a personal attack on DED, I'm sure Shaun would be glad to sell you a bottle of DED so you can test it. But the pictures don't mean shit. It could be DED vs water in the buffing photos for all we know. The only real way is to test it yourself. Compare it to other inks yourself with the buffing agents commonly used on your tags.