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About the WJC's I have to say the US-Finland game I went to there was about 30-35% Americans. The Canadians were way more amped about being there though, and their team had beaten Russia earlier in the day. I overheard someone behind me talking, they came all the way from Victoria, BC, and the green guys were there, it was like seeing a Leafs-Sabres game! The parking sticker shock was pretty nuts, I don't think I've ever paid more than 10 bucks to park at HSBC, I paid 25 to park for that game. That was a debacle. Plus, the US didn't really have a strong showing, though they redeemed themselves somewhat against Sweden. There really isn't total redemption available, from me at least, that Canada game sucked that bad. I think what Russia did was very strategic. They lulled Canada into thinking they had it, and struck when the Canadians were just trying to D it out for the win. It was obvious from Russia's win over Sweden that they weren't above being sneaky like that. They pretty much rock for coming here and pulling that off. It's fitting that it happened in Buffalo a bunch of unsigned, scrappy, not so pretty boys with a dirty, gritty championship. I say that with nothing but love for the dirt. It's more fitting than if the US had won it even.

Where was the US all tournament, they barely pulled it off against Finland, scraped one out against the Swiss, this was certainly not last years team. They seemed to me like they were more concerned with showing off to the NHL brass. blackboat, Fluery had a bad night, so what? That wasn't hockey, it was more like water-polo, the outdoor game should be outlawed below the 42nd latitude, it was just a crappy game all around, the third period was a waste. I didn't watch the rest of the game. Fluery has shone plenty enough elsewhere to be their goto guy. And also, why do you guys put Chara third in the shootout, he's good from the point, and standing in front of the net on the power play, but does he have a good SO percentage or something, I don't see the logic.

If anyone asks, I wasn't on here. Just checking in on what y'all up to. Been checking out the World Juniors. Been pretty upset with the Sabres, but there's too much bad blood with anyone in the east, except maybe Atlanta, since they've got Pavelec, coached by who? ? ?, the Canadian Cowboy Goalie with the Cuban Necktie, Clint Malarchuk! I love that guy, and I wish he would stop trying to kill himself. I also wish the green guys would stay in Van, do any Canucks fans like those fools? Are they even hockey fans? Either way, they have no business at an amateur event like the IIHF. What were they there for? However, I have to admit they have some moves, and they did not seem to get up for crappy songs.

Not sure I want to play again this year if everyone's not going to show up and play their players, yeah, that's right, every week!

I don't have the time to read this one, but I started to, and the crux of everyone's argument is that organic can't feed everybody on the plant, well, what can? Corporate ag is having trouble with just feeding it's sheep, the Americans!

100%, rocked it, gotta love the multiple choices.

Re: NHL 09-10 Season (aka pens repeat, kris draper loves anal sex) Man, I'm beginning to really like Halak. I really like him. Ever since the Olympics I've begun to think he's the best, in the East at least because that's what I watch mostly. That left pad save on Malkin in the 3rd, INSANE! Almost single handedly knocking out the, arguably, best and second best teams in the east and beating Mother Russia, already a stellar year. What is next?

I always wanted to order a real TurDuckEn from Hebert's or that other place. They seem to be a good deal at like $70 for sixteen servings. I have been scheming often since I picked up this book in October at a used book store I don't know about shipping already cooked food. I would much rather have the pros send me the product with instructions.

Re: NHL 09-10 Season (aka pens repeat, kris draper loves anal sex) I forgot about that, Marty's stalker, until I saw that picture. I am kinda pissed, I looked on Google news just now, normally light hockey news, only to see the score before I watched the DVR of tonight's 4-3 win. Anyway, take some of your own one goal medicine, 'burghers. Myers should go to the 'lympics, kids that good now.

Re: NHL 09-10 Season (aka pens repeat, kris draper loves anal sex) Man, congrats to Marty. These goalies need some more regulation, anyone see the tying goal in the Aves-Ducks game tonight. That was ridiculous, dude, Ryan was fucking watching over his shoulder at the puck while he bowled over Anderson, who had played a hell of a hockey game. It was called a goal. Fucking bullshit. Reminds me of a certain Montreal Sabres game, the first one this season which we lost. That shit's wrong.

I'm currently loving the Google Earth, especially the 3D buildings, they are mostly low tech and load quickly on my computer. There are lots of pics and great history of some of the lesser known/older architectural work. I'm pretty much fascinated by the Chicago guys, that was a very synergistic time for all of civil engineering and architecture. I like architecture. Mostly since time my dad and I cleaned out this old vacant house when I was 12. It was either a F. L. Wright original, or someone really wanted someone to think that it was, however it was left to rot for many years, full of mold. I remember some moldy elephant skin wall hangings that we trashed. Someone bought it and kind of kept it in stasis for a while, but they passed away and their relatives have come in and refurbed it somewhat, a touch of the character has definitely been lost. It's way too small and has zero yard space, but I would totally still buy it. That's a piece of history, it's way more important than things like my stuff or my comfort.

Re: NHL 09-10 Season (aka pens repeat, kris draper loves anal sex) Watched a really fucked up game this past Friday, the Sabres at Phliers. Our lovable wrecking ball, Kaleta, had a punishing hit on a dude and got the boot and suspended two games, looked to me like a bullshit call, but it was a day game, so I figured they'd call it a little tighter, maybe, maybe NOT. Richards took his stick with both hands and speared Myers in the head, popped off his helmet, doesn't even get a penalty. The Rivet-Carcillo fights were pretty cool to watch, I was thinking, after Ph. C. Pronger wouldn't fight Gaustad in the last game. That game was brutal at both ends, Rivet got the old stick sluice to his feet and messed up his knee when he subsequently crashed into the boards. I don't know how it is in your teams' games, but watching this one was like watching a train wreck, I think maybe Homered was the word of the day.

tracy t had it right, but failed to make the correct connection. There is so totally the overlooked possibility of some Chinese dude finding the bouy, pulling it up out of the water, chopping off the dorsal fin, and chopping out the gut sac, selling it, and blaming it on a bigger shark. Fuck the Chinese.

yeah i'm in, hope you saved a spot greensleeves

Ok let's test this theory, say countertop, or cabinet. See that there, how you said that, how practically every letter is pronounced like a syllable, that's the accent we're talking about.

You can't the engine gets disabled at the dealer. The following is taken from the C4CRule_OMB.pdf: The agency considered several possible methods of rendering the engine inoperable. The agency was looking for a method that was safe for workers involved, completely effective, environmentally sound, and relatively inexpensive for a dealer to use. NHTSA’s Vehicle Research and Test Center (VRTC) tested various methods and prepared a report (placed in the docket) summarizing the tests. VRTC evaluated four options: (1) the use of sodium silicate solution in the manner the agency has now adopted; (2) destroying the oil filter sealing land and threaded fastener boss; (3) drilling a hole in the engine block; and (4) running the engine without oil. VRTC concluded that the sodium silicate method was the best option. The other methods all had significant problems related to their effectiveness, practical limitations based on vehicle variations, and/or safety risks for workers involved. Sodium Silicate solution is a mixture of water and sodium silicate solids. When, after draining the oil, it is introduced into the engine oil system, the oil pump is able to distribute the solution throughout the engine oiling system. The heat of the operating engine then dehydrates the solution leaving solid sodium silicate distributed throughout the engine’s oiled surfaces and moving parts. These solids quickly abrade the bearings causing the engine to seize while damaging the moving parts of the engine and coating all of the oil passages. Only a small amount of sodium silicate remains in solution after completion of the process. Many of the engine parts will be unaffected by this process such as: intake and exhaust manifolds, bolt-on components, and fuel system components. The agency reviewed available information about sodium silicate and its properties, including a toxicology report and material safety data sheets that are available in the docket. Sodium silicate is a commonly used substance found in a wide range of products, including even dishwasher detergent. The Food and Drug Administration lists it as a GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe) substance. It is used to treat hazardous wastes, and is frequently used in the automotive industry as a rust inhibitor in cooling systems, and to seal leaks in cooling systems, head gaskets, and exhaust systems. Neither our review of available information nor our discussions with other agencies (EPA and OSHA) gave the agency reason to be concerned about the use of sodium silicate as a significant health or environmental issue. It is important to note that there are many varieties of sodium silicates, which are differentiated by weight ratio (the ratio of the silicon dioxide and sodium oxide that make up the compound). The weight ratios range from 1.0 to 3.5, with the higher ratio formulations being less irritating for humans and less corrosive in an engine environment. The material that dealers will be required to use under this rule is at the higher end of the range– 3.2–which means that it is far less of a potential health or environmental issue than other lower range formulations of the product. Like many household and workplace products, sodium silicate solution can be harmful if swallowed or inhaled and can cause irritation to the eyes or respiratory tract if used improperly. Employers whose employees may come in contact with the material need to provide them with adequate warning of these risks and appropriate protection. Because sodium silicate has been used in automotive repair for decades, it has long been present both in repair shops and in vehicles at various stages of recycling. It is reasonable to assume, therefore, that dealerships, scrap yards, and shredder facilities are well equipped to take appropriate measures to protect their workers. Nor did we find reason to have significant concerns about the environmental effects of sodium silicate in this application. The EPA does not regulate it as a hazardous substance. Given the high weight ratio of the formulation that will be used to disable the engines, the risk of its causing corrosion is very low. In a report prepared for the agency, a toxicology expert reviewed the process required by this rule concluded: “Provided adequate safety equipment is used by personnel in dealerships and shredder operations, and dust control measures are employed at shredder operations to minimize airborne particulates, the use of sodium silicate solutions to disable automobile engines is not expected to adversely affect occupationally exposed workers, nor are sodium silicate particulates expected to harm the environment.” The following the procedure outlined for the dealerships: Engine Disablement Procedures for the CARS Program THIS PROCEDURE IS NOT TO BE USED BY THE VEHICLE OWNER Perform the following procedure to disable the vehicle engine. 1. Obtain solution of 40% sodium silicate/60% water. (The Sodium Silicate (SiO2/Na2O) must have a weight ratio of 3.0 or greater.) 2. Drain engine oil for environmentally appropriate disposal. 3. Install the oil drain plug. 4. Since the procedure is intended to render the engine inoperative, drive or move the vehicle to the desired area for disablement. 5. Pour enough solution in the engine through the oil fill for the oil pump to circulate the solution throughout the engine. Start by adding 2 quarts of the solution, which should be sufficient in most cases. CAUTION: Wear goggles and gloves. Appropriate protective clothing should be worn to prevent silicate solution from coming into contact with the skin. 6. Replace the oil fill cap. 7. Start the engine. 8. Run engine at approximately 2000 rpm (for safety reasons do not operate at high rpm) until the engine stops. (Typically the engine will operate for 3 to 7 minutes. As the solution starts to affect engine operation, the operator will have to apply more throttle to keep the engine at 2000 rpm.) 9. Allow the engine to cool for at least 1 hour. 10. With the battery at full charge or with auxiliary power to provide the power of a fully charged battery, attempt to start the engine. 11. If the engine will not operate at idle, the procedure is complete. 12. If the engine will operate at idle, repeat steps 7 through 11 until the engine will no longer idle. 13. Attach a label to the engine that legibly states the following: This engine is from a vehicle that is part of the Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS). It has significant internal damage caused by operating the engine with a sodium silicate solution (liquid glass) instead of oil. 14. File this document in the file for the new vehicle purchase. And then it goes to salvage auction (which sells to junkyard that assumes responsibility for crushing the car, or to an ELVS certified junkyard (except in Maine which has already certified all the junkyards taking vehicles in a comparable program), During the six-month period prior to the required crushing or shredding of the trade-in vehicle, the disposal facility may sell any parts of the vehicle other than the engine block or drive train (unless the drive train is dismantled and sold in parts) If the ELVS yard is only capable of crushing the vehicles, it is assumed by the agency, it will be shredded for recycling. Once crushed, however, there is no further tracking of the individual vehicle. That's what happens to the car, you're welcome!

Yeah, see how many would jump off that ship if the program benefited them. At 50 MPG,, my Prius gets 278% better mileage than my old vehicle, has to put me up there near the top of the heap of 130K vehicles sold at the close of business Monday. The Prius is the 4th best selling vehicle right now.

Reading the posts since I last logged, it's like a littany of misinformation. Does anybody even read anything anymore before posting. One thing tho, I hear lots of jealousy at people not being able to buy new cars. Ask yourselves this, all those repo's, what happens to them? They end up parked in your frugal ass's driveway, that's what.

Checking out some of the numbers, the Senate optimistic to reach deal this week, Dem leadership meeting with Barack tomorrow for strategy. 80K (administration) or 120K (senate) vehicles reported sold. On track for double 240K. Avg. MPG improvement 9.6. Ford Focus top seller. Big three reporting more than half of sales. Toyota reports Prius, Camry, and Tacoma sales made up 78% of total clunker sales. Ford reported first year-over-year monthly sales increase since a year ago. GM reports small car sales made 54% jump in sales due to the program. Sounds all good to me.

No, I would want to suck as much money from the governments teet as I could. Times are tough.

LOL, Glenn Beck, who would have thought his bullshit would have found it's way to the ounce. Anyway, thanks for putting me back to my one green bar again Mams.

Heard that Dodge Jeep Chrysler has the best deals 4500 on most vehicles, though I'm not sure what they've got . Ford gives a measly 1500 back in comparison. The Fusion Hybrid is made in Hermasillo Stamping Plant in Mexico, and gets a crappy 35MPG highway, but has lots of neat sounding features, not the least of which is recycled seats. Plus 1500 back for new hybrid model through to Sept I think, plus whatever Ford give you, another 1500, you could be talking 24K, about what I paid for a Prius. The regular Fusion is a pretty decent buy for the money, and the 1500 back you might get one for 10K with the clunker. The new Subaru Legacy Sedan looked very nice on the lot I visited. The old Legacy's are going for a discount because of the model switch. Honda is making a big investment in plants over here and comes with a green corporate philosophy that we will learn and benefit from. Plus a commitment to making a standard model of every vehicle they sell. I think the Civic is made, or will be made in Cleveland? I heard Nissan has keyless ignition in the 2010 models, and you can trade in next year for the Leaf. As a beneficiary of this plan, I can say with only the slightest hesitation that it is not fucked. Plus, I think the law requires that anything not salvageable on your vehicle be shredded for recycling, after any mercury switches are removed of course, so it's as green as it gets.

Some good points here, but I don't think that given the current state of affairs, there is any way we are going to have more Americans insured by this time next year without any type of government intervention. I don't think anyone should be freaking about more taxes for health insurance, because we're paying more and more for insurance every year as it is. I like Obama's message on health insurance, even though I don't agree with it (if anything it could be stronger) but that's not his style, he's not shoving anything down anyone's throat. I respect this about him, he's got some character, and he's not A character, like all the other presidents I can remember having in my lifetime. No doctor is going to jump ship because they're getting a salary instead of taking a percentage, at least none worth the words in the oath they take. And much, if not most, of the innovation in medicine is coming from the universities, isn't it? They're definitely not going anywhere. I think this could be way more of a shot in the arm for the economy than buying everyone a new car.

You could say that the first two are positives. Firstly, by your own wording, you say jobs are being funded to a certain extent. Secondly, you say things are recovering, it could be worse. And let me ask you this, is the confidence so low because of the uncertainty about healthcare? It's sort of too complex an issue to be blamed on Obama's push for healthcare reforms, wouldn't you agree? And you're right, we (they) do own them, and therefore should hold off on the money for the second round until they are open and ready for business. They have time, the foreign companys aren't going to match incentives, as you said the dollar is way low right now. If you're buying a car, absolutely get that deal in writing before you roll up in your clunker, absolutely. But everyone here knows that already, douchebag!

Disclaimer, my last post seems to be slightly cynical on the stimulus. I am not, I think things could have gone way worse. Still prObama in '09!