Lol, the question intended was how does it differ from 'Cholo', obviously it does.. i just wanted to hear a description of how, and you gave me an answer in the middle of your huge unneccesary (in terms of answering me) post.. and yes i used to take pleasure in studying the evolution of subway graffiti, not year by year or month by month but week by week.. i think i think more about it than you think i think.. if you knew of >ALL< the styles that were done in LA (incuding which werent popularized so much), before the 1970's, then i think youd realize how much more blurred the distinction relative to the new york shiggazle actually is.. once you notive styles i dont think youve seen yet