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Haha yeeeee... Who got somethin on kkkatie? $$

"Snitching"? One writer tellin another where to find a hater (especially when that conflict originates from the hater's initializing of uncalled-for disrespect/cowardly immaturity), is nowhere near the same as "snitching" to the pigs to assist in an investigation/arrest/conviction. Youre taking the word "snitching" out of its original political context, which has always been in reference to those who collaborate w/ the legal system. The skrilla is a minor show of appreciation (grown men dont ask for favors w/out bringin somethin to the table), not a representation of anybodys finnancial status. Somebody post flicks, it dont even matter, niggas already got it (yes, even w/out puttin up "5 million").

Also, a zip of high-grade tree for the jeep-thang parkin spot.

$500 cash for the exact location/address of Afroe's home (not just the intersection/general area). I aint no fuckin pig, I aint explaining shit, niggas know. Respond through a PM.

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& rip hubba, some real sf shit.

"We've reached a point in our civilization where counterculture has mutated into a self-obsessed aesthetic vacuum." "...Such things have become shameless clichés of a class of individuals that seek to escape their own wealth and privilege by immersing themselves in the aesthetic of the working class." "Hipsterdom is the first "counterculture" to be born under the advertising industry's microscope, leaving it open to constant manipulation but also forcing its participants to continually shift their interests and affiliations. Less a subculture, the hipster is a consumer group – using their capital to purchase empty authenticity and rebellion." http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html We can all keep smashin on each other, fuck it. Or we could funk with the yuppies that are making sure that soon enough there aint such a thing as a "native". Figured this article breaks shit down well enough to where it might interest at least one of you niggas in here. Then again, its only fashionable to rep your city, not to defend it.

Thanks for this. I've noticed there's hella disregard for the original rules of this game nowadays regarding respect, dissing, snitching etc. Niggas think cause they're willing to hack someone & cause hella immature, corny tag-banging drama (which is all stupid shit that doesn't have ANYTHING to do with reclaiming public space, fighting the buff, or maintaining/developing OUR culture) that that makes them solid graff writers, & it doesn't. Good graff writers are defined by the AMOUNT of, & QUALITY of, their work. EVERYTHING ELSE is sideline distractions. You're not supposed to diss niggas that have earned way more stripes than you. As far as snitching, anyone who doesn't see the system & the pigs as their complete enemy, & is actually willing to cooperate with these institutions, is complete fucking garbage. I've got some of the toyest, irrelevant, no-stripes-earned, nobody-ass haters, & even though they have it comin to 'em, I've finally started realizing/learning that, in the end, they don't matter b/c they'll all stop writing within a couple years. Like "redwingjuice" said, if you know you have more dedication, & you know you're in this shit for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, then JUST because of your LONGETIVITY, you automatically WIN. They'll be gone soon, & you'll still be here contributing to this bomber shit. Even though you have to be about your shit in this game, sometimes you gotta realize some of these niggas is so garbage/unknown, that they actually GAIN fame from you taking them seriously on your same level.

fucking toy ass idiots like niggas dont know where niggas live.

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know your real enemy

If I meet him, I'ma play it off smooth & not act pissed, & initiate an intelligent exchange of ideas with him. I'ma hear him out & try to understand him, & try to narrow in on which subconscious ideas & life experiences are causing him to develop such a racist, un-creative, inhumane perspective. Once he hears that I'm genuinely trying to have a discussion, he'll start to let his guard down, & he'll start really engaging with me, little by little taking our conversation more seriously. Then I'll start breaking down to him the motivations, intentions & reasoning behind these "colored kids", the SF graff scene, & graff in general, passionately but calmly, & I'll notice him start to REALLY hear me out, & his facial expression & posture will start to change once he realizes he's talking to someone who genuinely cares about what they're speaking on. Soon enough he'll have that LOOK in his eyes, that look that shows he's slowly opening up & letting go of his ideas, & that he's impressed/surprised by this young ghetto-looking tagger nigga. But eventually, he'll start cutting me off, acting rude, & talking nonsense (kind of like an intellectual panic, lol), because he'll realize that by actually hearing out this "colored graffiti kid", he allowed himself to be convinced to our side. He'll start trippin' off the fact that someone with no art school experience could create art, & that someone poor & without college education could make him change his mind about the ideas behind his vigilante-ism in an articulate, calm manner. Right when he really starts hella talking over me hella loud, & getting a lil' too outta pocket, I'ma slap the fuck out this nigga & stomp his fucking face in for being a snitch. In this way, I would've made him understand us & made him deep down inside ACTUALLY REALIZE he's WRONG, while simultaneously letting this nigga know snitches get stitches & that sucka free SF niggas don't let that shit slide out here. Haha.

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Right. I'm a bitch, but you wont respond to my pm's, or say who you are. So petty, someone's deffinately butthurt. I'm almost sure of who you are, but I ain't gonna call you out & stoop down to your level of drysnitching (cops on here, IP adresses, etc.). Keep thinking I don't know who you are nigga, wait when I see you again. Keep makin a coward of yourself. I'm gonna ignore you now, until you're man enough to state yo name & be about yo shit. Hate away. Late.

"igotsnitchfood": You need to stop drysnitching on the internet, describing nigga's appearances & shit. Even if you don't like somebody, you handle it in the streets like a honest fucking man, you don't go SNITCHING. This ain't the first time you do this. You're bitter, & your pride is hurt, so you're gonna DRYSNITCH on the niggas you don't like? It's called HONOR AMONGST THIEVES, & if you plan on spending a significant amount of your life doing "criminal" activity, I suggest you learn about it before BEFORE shit catches up to you. Fuck graffiti beef, you already know what type of real-life problems snitching will bring you; don't test when it comes to some snitching shit, BRUH. ON MY FATHER NIGGA, I am not playing with you, & I'm not talking about petty-graffiti-fighting shit. Not going to be specific. You need to calm down. Already pm'd you, quit ignoring me.

Traveled to multiple cities, states & countries. Lived considerable years of my life in 2 countries other than the US, & lived in multiple cities & states in both of these other countries. Lived in the urban, & even rural (farmlands) of both these foreign countries. ----“if you have...then we wouldn't be having this conversation cus you would see that this land doesn't belong to one sole class of people or race..…” I will stand by every last thing I just said. You're right no one land belongs to anyone, but you're missing my very simple point: that it DOES matter if that change of demographics is happening in a FUCKED UP WAY. I don't understand how you can't distinguish this. You move out of your home, that’s cool; someone tells you to move out at gunpoint, it’s not cool. ----“i feel what boss hog is trying to say as a native of this city…” I’m not saying this because just because I’m a native; people having their land STOLEN from them ANYWHERE in the world, is something that, as a decent person, I’m against. ----“my point is that, are you gonna feel this way everytime someone moves to sf...…” No. My city is one of the DOPEST in the world, hands down; people will always want to explore it. SF has always been about diversity, we welcome everyone. Unless you’re a millionaire real estate company working with the mayor & the SFPD to take this shit over, & wipe out the REAL diversity we already have. Just show respect. ----“but to sit here and knock every fuckin writer and person from another area that comes from another city is retarded and a waste of energy..." I don’t think you’re talking about me here, you might be mad about other locals. I’ve never knocked any writers JUST because of where they’re from. Most of my haters are locals (irony). ----“but that doesn't make this city thee absolute fuckin only spot on the planet where fresh shit happens and only spot where dope writers are born...thee amount of niggas that are not from here that have destroyed this city is a beyond words.. .…” That’s true. But none of these outtatowners that crushed shit tried to buy all the real estate, raise their prices, & evict everyone out. I don’t see what this has to do with anything. ----“the funny thing is that if you go to NYC native New Yorkers are saying the same shit about SF transplants” If you go to NY, you see one of the worst examples of gentrification in the world, & there’s hella New Yorkers who realize they have a similar struggle to us SF Natives. Niggas is just trynna Keep Hoods Yours, you feel me, we trynna Destroy Gentrified Turf.

Fsho bruh, but no, I think most writers unfortunately are "fuckin totaly braindead"...only a few of us realize this Sf graff shit is about more than just writing on a wall. I'm done, I'm gonna go keep hoods yours now, fuck it. And bump this. Considering the number of real niggas & genuine people in the scene right now, *A DONUT* will probably be the realest thing to come out of Sf graff for a while.

BUMP. I'm glad someone here ain't a complete idiot. It's probably too late for the scene, no one cares about things like CULTURE, HISTORY & RESPECT anymore.

I dont think the threat of violence or the possibility of getting jumped is good, so im not gonna respond to your comments about all the getting jumped shit. ----"get over the whole gentro bullshit argument that yall keep cryin about" It's not a "bullshit argument", it's a factual economic policy. Even politicians don't deny it, they just say call it "re-development" & say it's good for the city because it will "increase tourism revenue" & "reduce crime". It's even in the shitty, mainstream newspapers. It's not argument, it's FACT. ----"try opening your fuckin simple ass mind and traveling to a few other cities and watch how the next local shit head in that city cries about your dumb ass taking over his chill spots, his street he grew up on, his fav local eatery...lol..." Well if you're talking about major urban cities, that would only prove my point, because gentrification & the re-locating of the worlds economic centers has happened in every major city, from NY (Harlem, etc.) to countries in Europe (poor whites being evicted for upper-class whites to move in). Gentrification's been going on for a couple decades, & since it has to do with the SHIFTING of how the world's economies work (from industry-based to service-based), it's international, & nearly impossible to stop. ----"people move around the world..it happens...get the fuck over it...its what the principle of this country was based on..immigration and expansion." Of course people migrate & move, it's a natural part of human development. The DIFFERENCES I'm pointing out here is HOW and WHY people move. To say all movement of people is the same, that it just "happens...get the fuck over it", would be like saying that Israeli tanks shooting kids in the face & bulldozing Palestinian houses on the Gaza Strip so they can build settlements, is the same as, say, me & my nigga getting a new apartment down the street because it has a nicer balcony. Those are both MOVEMENTS of people, but the reasons, & the WHYS & HOWS are blatantly different, & anyone who cares about human struggle & dignity couldn't just gloss over all that & ignore it. I'm not against people coming here; we're one of the biggest tourist destinations on the planet, anyone saying SF should be "locals only" is stupid. Once again, I'm talkin about people who didn't move because they wanted to, but they were pushed out by ECONOMIC BULLYING & POLICE OFFENSIVES. Outtatowners AREN'T the problem, the problem is RICH, WEALTHY PEOPLE who wan't to change the demographics of the city by force, so they can increase their own profits. Does anyone trip off of what happens when a poor family of 7, even 8 people who were barely keeping up with rent & bills get evicted out of nowhere? No one trips, because we don't SEE THEM ANYMORE, & within 2 weeks there's already hipsters throwing parties there. But trust me, there's stress, sadness, confusion & struggle as they try & keep their family together while trying to find somewhere new to start a life. This is nothing against you bruh (unless you're a super wealthy real estate predator, lol). I've met working class, struggling outtatowners who've moved here, & realized what was going on, so they CLICKED UP with the working class LOCALS to seperate themselves from the super-wealthy yuppie outtatowners, & to fight back (hence, poor vs. rich) & wreck shit. Fuck sitting on the fence, pick your side.

agree with you 100%. FUCK RACE. if your poor, fight back.and you're right about the sf refugees thing, all the locals and natives are having to move out to cities like stockton, pittsburg, etc. because we got ran the fuck out by yuppies. I actually don't devote my time to beef, I'm always talking about how we should really all click up & beef with THE REAL ENEMY & all that. Out of every beef I've ever had, I've never started ONE. But if someone starts shit with me, I won't ever fucking back down. But I'm grown & mature, I'd much rather be organizing to wreck this fucking city & bring the system hell.

At one point, the Mission was primarily Irish and other european immigrant groups. The difference in WHY and HOW the Irish/Immigrant european populations (including Italian, etc.), and the latino populations of today, left, IS what counts here. At one point in the US, the Irish WERE considered a minority group, and treated like such, and were in the same boats as blacks, etc. Alot of european groups that immigrated here that werent british, were at one point looked at as unwanted minority types. What happened was, the Irish, learned how the racial-economic system worked in America, and how SKIN color strongly influenced access to wealth and resources. So as soon as given the opportunity, the Irish BLENDED in to this new American system, played the white card, and over time were able to use their white priviledge (hence, why the Irish are considered white today, and not looked down upon like blacks and latinos). Once their access to wealth and resources increased, they no longer HAD to live in the mission, and for the most part, WILLINGLY got up, left and moved to other parts. THEY LEFT WILLINGLY, BECAUSE THEY CAME UP. And for those Irish that were here "until the early 80's", they left on their own choice, do you really think impoverished civil-war refugees had the funds to economically push them out? No, they started moving into that area due to its low prices, and they didn't feel that, and left. The Latinos of the Mission today (and no ones claiming the Mission was ever 100% latino, although majority), on the other hand, never were accepted into the racial system as to no longer be looked at as minorities. The latinos in the Mission DIDN'T LEAVE WILLINGLY, they left because of a CONCERTED ECONOMIC ATTACK. As the economy has been shifting from being less industry-based, to being more service-based, the focus has shifted to CITIES and urban areas where everything is close and easily accesible, as the new economic centers. Also, during world war 2, WHITE PEOPLE WILLINGLY GOT UP AND LEFT URBAN CITIES in a process called WHITE FLIGHT, because back then what was valued was the peace and quiet of the suburbs. Also, there was a lot of black populations moving up to the urban areas because of all the factory jobs for producing everything that was needed for world war 2, and especially with the worser racism of those times, this made middle class white UNCOMFORTABLE. So now, there is something that can be almost called REVERSE-WHITE FLIGHT, the process of this new generation of middle-and-upper-middle class young proffessionals moving to the urban cities, because these are the places were the economic centers are being relocated at (hence all the different company headquarters in the city). Gentrification is an economic, thought out process, that TARGETS areas by "developing" them to increase their value, allowing them to raise the cost of living, kicking families THE FUCK OUT without any care in the world. This process is applied by politicians, real estate companies, and the local police TOGETHER. That's also why, when gentrification starts, the police INCREASE HARRASSMENT of minorities, because they're trying to get them the fuck out of there. Main point for whoever doesn't want to read all that "nerdy, boring, long ass shit": The Irish left WILLINGLY, because they had the funds to (like the rest of middle class americans leaving urban cities for the suburbs during world war 2), while the latinos were TARGETED and FORCEFULLY PUSHED OUT THROUGH THOUGHT-OUT ECONOMIC POLICIES. **And let me add that I aint got anything against white people, these are just FACTS. The struggle is not about race, its about CLASS, RICH VS. POOR. I'd rather fuck with a poor white dude than a upper-class minority ANY DAY. If you struggle, you're in the struggle.

"Why do that?" WHY DO THAT? BECAUSE WE IN A BATTLE FOR PUBLIC SPACE NIGGA THATS WHY........FUCK CLEARCHANEL TAG EVERYTHING ROB BANKS SHOOT COPS UNITE YOUR HOOD BURN THE PRISONS

goddammittt everythinggsss fucking gone to shit and nobody does shit fuk it no one cares ima shut the fuck now and go chug hella lean i just got prescribed

I still can't get over this shit. WE REALLY LOST. FRISCO NIGGAS & LOCALS, WE LOSE. We lost our neighborhoods, culture, histories, communities, everything to a few real estate companies, the sfpd, & a shitload of hipstered-out yuppies that like to pretend they're poor. I love my culture, city & my people enough to admit this shit, like... more than pisses me off...it kinda hurts to see. All you working-class locals going to yuppie ass parties in the mission, promoting getrification, y'all need to take off those dope ass 49ers jackets, & those giants hats, 'cause y'all ain't doing shit for our fucking city. Fuck gentrification, they can move everyone out, I ain't going nowhere, I'm proud to be a motherfucking problem. You gotta keep hoods yours. The letters on this fitted-cap actually mean something to me.