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Thanks for the input. I think i would chose the crosscheck, but it looks like the surlys - and all the other modern frames I've looked at - have a 1-1/8" headtube, which pretty much rules out threaded altogether i think. fuck. Or am I wrong? I really want to stick with threaded.

so I'm looking to get a new frame... considering something like the Surly cross check or Long haul trucker. I'm not doing any fully loaded touring, but I carry about 5-10 pounds on top of my rear rack regularly, which makes my Columbus steel racing bike handle poorly and get "speed wobbles" at about 4 mph. I know there is a lot of discussion about these two frames out there, but do any of yall have personal experience? Also really want to stay with a threaded headset, so I'd need a different fork, right? Also considering the Bob Jackson World Tour. I can afford it (~$1000 shipped) but I'm not sure I'm comfortable having a bike that's worth 1700+ dollars after being built up. Going to be worried about wrecking it or getting it stolen. Any other frames i should look it? Basically something "touring" or "cross" that's made of fuckin steeeel. Also do any of you frequent other forums that are bike related as opposed to tag-banger related?

damn i fell for that hd version shit every time, and i don't even know why im in here in the first place

also bump the post ahead of this one

god DAMN i do not like this photo

WHITE CASTLE Roosevelt and western, only the second time i've been there, though maybe the last, got a gnarly stomach ache shortly after that ruined my time at the "rave" i was headed too. /noraver

i don't really understand what that is a picture of. But, also, i didn't even notice the peppers until they were mentioned, so, you know

totally. Only ladies, though

Really though, i must applaud the effort thats gone into this thread. I was just expecting something fucking awesome right off the bat, which there was none of. Think "homo dungeon superthread"

soooooo.... then what happened?

god damn it i was expecting so much more out of this thread.

ugh fuck human beings

"Don't feel sorry for me,' he told Walters.

my phone is not capable of viewing such material.

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I kind of agree with porkchop's opinion on critical mass.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN??????????????

"Every time I eat turkey I smile," she said. "I'd like to do that to him." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHscJ168Cc

I knew he was a Communist when I heard about what the people he associated with in the past and what they had said said and did like try to blow up government buildings and was also Leary of the media being call liberal media and when it was covered up and not be covered by the main stream media it was clear they were liberal or had white guilt or both, I can't WAIT to see and hear the tapes!!!!

http://www.foodbanter.com/general-cooking/175828-how-long-do-peanut.html