both of you fucks shut up ....youve been "tattin" for how long and you still say "tat" ....if you have to get on here and tell people how many "tats" you have youre a fag .. plus if you arent matt rinks, dave waugh, chad koeplinger or someone then get over youreself ..argue about this shit on the read street forum and see what real tattooers have to say ..."i work at the busiest shop in the metro area" haha shut up ...this is a graffiti forum ..do either of you even do that??