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babania had a valid point actually..

yea you all seem to think that its sooo ghetto to think being rich is shit. well il drop some knowledge. PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO WANT TO BE RICH. only dumb people think they are 'keepin it real' if they living like a pennyless chump. im not saying all rich people are fine, but dont hate cos you are poor.

thankyou ^ and what you all bitching about? they obviously commissioned it because he is well known for that throw up. he could have done a burner, but they obviously didnt ask for that. unless your as established as him, or as good, keep it shut.

you are joking? i mean seriously, we have yards, trains, running water, cars, and even tv.

o and its more like $10 not $12, just thought id ad my small knowledge of the exchange rate...

its nothing to do with they dont know what to charge, they just dont want young little hoodlums to buy it and go spraying on walls. unfortunately for them, means paint gets racked instead.

well actually the weed in holland is overrated.... and on another note, people sayin europe is easy to paint, try paintin steel in berlin, or denmark.... that is about as hard as paintin ny subways.

again people tryin to undermine nt....

haha, its 'gay' is it? riiight. well actually im sure if you give it a chance people might actually debate, post flicks etc. the fact is graffiti as a culture is expanding, and i see alot of stuff from both sides of the pond, and alot of people sayin eith usa is killing it, or european stuff. so as there is a mix or people on here, maybe might turn into a good discussion.

how so? its a valid discussion...

well i thought it was about time to see a forum on this topic, as both usa and europe have very different styles, but not focusing on style, who is smashing it more in all areas of graffiti? who is pushing the limits further? let battle commence...

iv emailed you but didnt get a reply. im from around london, and should be around aug time. il be up for some hof painting...

i would open em up, but theres too many. i have more too.... some say too much for just one writer, but really there is never enough...

ye, pretty beautiful

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il post my inventory soon, that should burn most pics on here...any guesses on how many there will be?

il hopefully be there, just need the dates!

ye he cannot, unless you post some of this 'bacon1's shit, and its sicker than this bacon, retract that statement.

fair enough, but my point was that, they arent hard, if you practise, you can get one down within a few weeks, that other style i was argueing over, takes along time to develop, and does qualify as graf, end of.

exactly, but when you label it as not graffiti, like that twat, as if he has the right to decide what is, and what isnt graffiti, that fucks me, and most other people im sure. yes his style is more about the art, but of course that doesnt mean he cant throw up as much as the next man. you can be up everywhere, but still have another abstract style.

this got no letter structure whatsoever.. Quoted post This piece is nothing more than a piece of crap! This piece is mad of nothing but thunder caps, acrylic paint and bucket roller paint. This dosent count as graffitty. I bet that this guy couldnt paint a throwup, even if Vice Presedent Dick Cheny put a 10 gauge shot gun to his head and told him to quack like a quail. Quoted post [/b] firstly if you cant spell graffiti you dont have a say in what is, and what aint graffiti. second, its fuckwits like you, that try and condemn what you dont understand. the fact is, that IS graffiti. and its fucking good. its fresh, and more original than anything you have done im sure. and the fact is im sure he can do a throw up, but the fact is, throw ups are fucking easy, and every mother fucker can do em, instead, as he had the time, he painted a good piece. post a piece you have done better, if not, shut it.

haha lovin this, business men sittin there none the wiser

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