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whatever...it's here to stay. some of it is impressive but i don't consider it graff. i'm just glad more people are creative and doing things instead of watching tv. that's the new hipster thing to do.
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damn...just listened to perry and kingsley yesterday. rest in peace. make noise up there, too.
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i read in the oakland tribune about this, then saw it here...sad to say, it's not surprising. some people are really fucked up. i work less than four blocks from that parking lot and ride past it every day. oakland can be one brutal place- my girl got robbed at gunpoint two blocks from our house a few weeks ago, and our hood isn't that bad, or so i thought. now i carry a pair of scissors in my hand when i walk to the store at night. shit.
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yeah, it's like the graff scene became more important than the graff game...by that, i mean that now that people can network via the internet and post flicks, the writing became secondary...and therefore, style suffered as well. no one's going to push you when you have an aim list of forty other people who write like you...look like you, and basically ARE you. they won't tell you to your face that you suck...sure, they might tell everyone else, but that's what scenes are like, and why i have no use for them. when i came up, i had fourteen years of indirect involvement in the game. i skated, went to shows, and hung out in the big city, so i knew lots of writers, from toys to kings, and saw a lot of styles and picked up a lot of the culture through osmosis. i didn't start bombing till i was 28, and i still don't think i'm that great, but i know what a good tag should look like... and that on straight letters the bars have to be proportional... and that style speaks volumes. after three years, i'm finally getting the hang of it, but i know now that it doesn't have to be technical, just solid. i see a lot of kids now using tricks i won't even touch- i'm still working on getting down piecing letters that work. i guess i just have a lot of respect for how much time it takes to be original and good- a lot of people are one or the other nowadays. and, that's fine, but it's not progress to do what everyone else is doing. someone told me once that graff hasn't really evolved since the eighties...i disagreed with him then, but in retrospect, i think he's right. unfortunately, stock tip pieces and vanity tags are an easy way to get your name out there without having to put any effort into style, so anyone can be as thug as they want and say, "i don't care, i'm up." well, if it works for them....
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new ink? they also make oil based sharpies now- they aren't bad- one blew up in my hand saturday and my hand's still red. ha ha, red-handed! oh, i kill me.
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why isn't this guy in jail? if he was a left wing radical, he'd get buried so quick...at least these maniacs are dumb enough to go public with this shit. this guy worries me more than saddam hussein, bin laden, and mutaqua al sadr... i was talking with my dad the other day about the evanglical movement in the u.s. my dad and don't always agree politically (ironically, i'm more conservative in some ways than he is) but the focus of the conversation was how the far right wing/evanglical movement basically sees its mandate as being one of the motivating factors for the apocalypse. i started to call bullshit on this, but he then told me that one of their goals is to rebuild the temple mount in jerusalem...the thing is, there's already a mosque there, the dome of the rock. and, it's one of the holiest sites in islam. it's believed to be the site where the prophet muhammad ascended to heaven....this also coexists with the wailing wall, which is said to be the remaining wall of solomon's temple. oh, and not to forget the garden of gethesmane, where, according to the bible, jesus spent his last night on earth and, via the east gate, will return and reign for a thousand years. beliefs are beliefs....they're all well and good, but when you start blurring the line between foreign policy and biblical prophecy, that's when i get uncomfortable. have you ever wondered exactly what bush's "roadmap to peace" in israel is all about? i don't think it's just about doing the right thing and returning stolen land....no, i sense a deal in the works. btw, i am pro-nobody, but myself. and, i am not devout anything- i do believe in God, though, and i really doubt He wanted anyone at all to fight over this. if He is the loving, caring God i believe in, i pray that He does SOMETHING about this mess... it's ironic. i read a book by tom robbins called "skinny legs and all", and it almost predicts this scenario to a t. life imitates art, i suppose.....i shudder to think what could happen if "terrorists" blew up the dome of the rock, and israel lays claim to the land...if you though the middle east was bad now...the reprisals would make anything that's happened already look like mr. roger's neighborhood. shit, i'll move to the fucking moon if any of this comes to pass. sorry, i rambled. these guys are crazed, though, and would probably stop at nothing to perpetuate this. i'm not worried about God coming back, so much as i am worried that a bona fide world war could come of this.
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pat robertson- the bin laden of america.
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"...other than the fact that since two years ago i know have sveral casinos in my area that i can go to." this is sooooooooooooo overlooked, that it isn't even funny. there are dozens of "bands" of natives in california who lobby the state to allow them to build casinos in areas that they never even lived in! and, the fucked up thing is, the common myth is that the "bands", which is portrayed by the media as being representative of the tribes they spring from, benefit from this. and, maybe they do....but, it's a pie, right? and, there's only so much of that pie to go around, and if i don't miss my bet, the tribe at large probably gets the smallest piece. where does the rest go? these casinos don't exactly operate on an open-books basis. what i think is that a few people figured out how to play this to their benefit, and now are making loot...and, i'm sure that there HAS to be a few white guys out there getting their free mercedes on with a wallet full of comps to all those casinos. the fact is, gambling is an addiction just like st. ides or crack, and we're well on our way to having a full-blown casino industry in a state that can barely afford to keep its schools open. and for this, we have our boy to thank.......who promised, when elected, that he wouldn't take a cent in "political contributions"...then, last week, held a $25,000 dollar a plate dinner at which he was the key speaker. i wish i could have been a fly on the wall at that one.
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quote=thumper,Aug 6 2005, 09:08 PM]I hope you all know you're more than likely talking to this guy: http://www.slhs.net/administrator/dherrera.html Seriously. Quoted post uh huh. and HE'S in the life too, i'll bet. heh heh heh...between killing heathens and sending car 5-0 out for coffee for the deskjockeys at the station...he used 2 roll with mad canz, yo. we are NOT going to make it THAT easy... but, here's two graff terms, mister- RESEARCH CONTEXT they're in any dictionary- they mean the same things to me as they should to you. and, if you are a detective, then i truly fear the worst for your constituents.
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this will sound totally counterintuitive, and only applies after you get your hand toegther, but.....the less you think about it, the better it will look. graff is not so much a head game as it is muscle memory, and teaching your hands and arms to do things independently of your brain...i know SOMEONE is going to call bullshit on this, but it's really hard to explain. there's a bunch of articles floating around the web about "drawing on the right side of your brain" that i think every writer should know about- it explains the roles that the right and left hemispheres play in processing information, motor skills, and creativity. once i found out about it, sort of by mistake, i found that flow that i had always lacked.... in short, i think knowing about effects is great, but it's a little short of the mark as far as doing better graff. too many effects on letters that don't stand on their own is kind of like the difference between being "book smart" and "streetwise". but, i do like the fact that someone thought of this...i'd like to see where it goes from here.
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^^^ it doesn't seem any different than any other garvey, except it's black. it's got a little transparency around the edges. it's opaque enough. don't know if it fades yet, but i'm sure it does. i'll use it to write on unsealed concrete, most likely. marsh comes in three grades- k grade is kerosene based. smells like gasoline, use outside. use it for porous surfaces. smears when dry, leaves shadows. weird stuff- i don't use it much... t grade is turpenoid based, all-purpose/surface ink- smells like pine sol and ink. doesn't smear like k, though. rarer, and therefore more expensive. a grade is alcohol based and i think it has antifreeze in it. smells like cat piss. comes in colors, and is tintable. all-surface. shake for a while before you pour it-it's lumpy. dries the quickest. as far as i know, marsh doesn't use xylene, and more than makes up for it by using kerosene. thanks for the nero tip. does it have any application in fine art or design? i seem to do more of those two these days. hope this helps.
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^^^ it doesn't seem any different than any other garvey, except it's black. it's got a little transparency around the edges. it's opaque enough. don't know if it fades yet, but i'm sure it does. i'll use it to write on unsealed concrete, most likely. marsh comes in three grades- k grade is kerosene based. smells like gasoline, use outside. use it for porous surfaces. smears when dry, leaves shadows. weird stuff- i don't use it much... t grade is turpenoid based, all-purpose/surface ink- smells like pine sol and ink. doesn't smear like k, though. rarer, and therefore more expensive. a grade is alcohol based and i think it has antifreeze in it. smells like cat piss. comes in colors, and is tintable. all-surface. shake for a while before you pour it-it's lumpy. dries the quickest. as far as i know, marsh doesn't use xylene, and more than makes up for it by using kerosene. thanks for the nero tip. does it have any application in fine art or design? i seem to do more of those two these days. hope this helps.
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check your pms....shhhhh.
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BTB, PART 2 OTHER KEY ITEMS- panniers/saddle bag big enough for the following tools. what you usually carry should do it. if you don't have any, at least get the following- extra tube or patchkit, small pump, tire levers, allen/screwdriver combo tool, 4" crescent wrench, a dollar bill (tire boot), roll of electrical tape, a couple zipties, and a rag. sleeping bag (optional- bivy sack or tent) w/small tarp extra pair of bike shorts/socks/gloves rain gear warm clothing/hat sunscreen and any meds you may need some food (optional-small stove) at least two 16 oz. water bottles front and rear lights helmet lock id and something w/emergency contact/medical info camera/ sketchbook/ pens cellphone, if you have one it seems like a lot, but all this weighs less than 10 lb. and easily fits into a saddle bag or one pannier. what NOT to bring- spray paint or lots of supplies. it's a ride, not a mission. i always carry a streaker with me on rides, but that's it. take notes, and come back later. drugs other than pot, since i can't post your bail. weapons won't be needed, since we're not looking for trouble, right? the idea is to seem as legit as possible. and, if anyone asks, we're on a training ride. stick to that. TENTATIVE ROUTE- leave oakland or berkeley saturday morning. ride on bay trail to richmond to bart. cross san rafael/richmond bridge somehow. san rafael- ride southeast around near san quentin to east end of sir francis drake. take sfd west to fairfax to bolinas road. bolinas road to/through marin water district. take road leading to mt. tamalpais to peak. gawk at view from mt. tam, then descend via old railroad grade to e. blithedale/mill valley. thru mill valley and estuaries to sausalito. shoreline through sausalito to alexander. climb out to golden gate bridge. cross bridge into presidio, trail route to arguello gate. arguello to golden gate park. through park to sunset blvd. sunset south to sloat, sloat to great highway/ zoo. great hwy to county line/ skyline. skyline south through daly city, south sf, san bruno. pick up sawyer camp trail at san bruno ave. sawyer camp trail north to crystal springs in san mateo (near the dam). east on crystal springs to el camino real. right on ecr to 4th ave. left at 4th ave. 4th ave. to bay trail. follow bay trail to marine pkwy. left onto marine pkwy/holly. holly to old county, left on old county- follow bike path into redwood city/ broadway. follow b'way to page, and page to bayfront. bayfront to dumbarton bridge. dumbarton east to union city/fremont. left at toll plaza to bay trail. bay trail through coyote hills to union city blvd. uc blvd. to industrial, left on industrial. industrial to clawiter, left doubling back on clawiter to breakwater/ bike path to bay trail next to hwy 92. p/u bay trail at ecology center. bay trail north thru hayward shoreline park to williams/sanleandro. williams to doolittle, left on doolittle to harbor bay. harbor bat to bay trail, around bay farm to doolittle (bridge). over bridge, follow bike path nw to park st. right on park, east to blanding. right on blanding to 29th ave bridge. east over bridge to e. 7th st. e. 7th to e. 19th, e.19th to embarcadero. north on embarcadero to jack london square/ ride end. two preliminary rides are required- one 50k, and one 100k. this is to get a idea of where you're at as a distance rider., and gives you a chance to have second or third thoughts. rides should be done no later than march 15th. routes TBD. CONTROLS- eight controls (checkpoints) will be part of the race. missing one results in a 10% time penalty, two is a 25% time penalty. three is an automatic dq. penalties are a percentage of the finishing time added to the finishing time. checkpoints will either be a signature or a stamp. five minutes are deducted at each control (for signature and rest) thereby increasing the incentive for riders to stop. RULES- do unto others....you know the rest. cheating is possible (good luck) but, if i catch you, it's a 25% penalty. and a scowl from me.....so mainly, don't get caught. good sportsmanship is a must- see the first rule. teams of two are allowed, however, i'll add the team times and divide by two- not simply take the best time. lawbreaking/recklessness is strongly discouraged....i can't tell you not to blow stop lights, or not pass on the right, or bomb on fire roads at top speed. or ride at night w/o lights... it's your call. i personally try to follow all the rules of the road, and i hardly ever get pulled over or have to deal with road rage these days. plus, i won't vouch for you. TERRAIN- from sea level to 2600' (mt. tam). most grades are long but gradual and less that 5%. some short, steep climbs. the bay trail is flat. about 40% will be on hardpack, fire roads, or trails. or, dirt, but not loose dirt. NOTE-old railroad grade, one of the best parts of the whole ride, is occasionally closed after rains for erosion control- i'll try to hold the race after mt. tam has a chance to dry out. lots of coastal marshland/ tidal areas along the bay trail, and forested areas acsending/descending mt. tam and along sawyer camp trail. and, of course, city, rural, and residental streets. WEATHER- bring rain gear and warm clothing- early spring can get nasty, be prepared- plus, at times, we will be at elevation, so warm gear is necessary. layers are best. REGISTRATION AND FEES- TBD- $10, includes a map and something else. i'm working out registration details right now...pm me if anyone is interested. bear in mind, this won't be for six months.
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(to the moderators- i know this is a shameless plug, but i truly believe that this belongs here- if you feel it belongs elsewhere, please let me know- i'd like to post results here afterwards, as well- plus, if 12 oz. were ever looking to sponsor a race...we should talk.) ATTENTION BAY AREA TOUGH GUYS AND GALS!!!! PROPOSAL FOR "BREVET THE BAY, VOL.1" TARGET DATE- EARLY-MID SPRING 2006 -a randonneur-style ride around san francisco bay in the spring - flexible 300k route to be covered within 48 hours- eight controls spread throughout the ride -lots of sights, history, nature, and of course, some graffiti -prizes for best time/best story/best photos/hardest luck/closest finisher to 48 hours...my version of dfl. -sponsors to be determined/announced -field limited to riders who can ride 150k in qualifiers (see below) THE CONCEPT- i've always thought that the true test of your everyday cyclist should not always be based on speed alone. randonneuring is the ideal way for cyclists (not pros) to prove that they can ride competitively and still be able to hang out cooperatively at the end of the day. brevets (what the rides are called) are not a balls-out, take-no-prisoners type of race-randonneuring is like timed touring, pretty much. the idea is that you should enjoy the ride, not endure it. there is a set of controls (checkpoints) where you are encouraged to stop and get a signature/stamp and rest. if you feel that you must, or you are far ahead of the pack in time, you can skip controls....however, this results in time penalties and if you miss three checkpoints you get disqualified. paradoxically, if you complete all eight controls you get a time bonus. (DISCLAIMER-these are my rules, not the official ones. http://www.randonneurs.bc is a good resource for the real deal. this is just for fun, and i'm making it up as i go along.)the other keystone is that randonneuring is entirely self-supported. therefore, you should plan to carry everything on you or your bike that you would need for the ride. this is where the spandex guys usually lose interest, but they shouldn't....i think a lot of folks who are messengers and anyone of a creative nature ought to be challenged by this aspect. limited and/or emergency sharing of resources is fine, but mooches will be frowned upon. credit card or fast touring (very light, little or no bags/gear.... think of a ride supported by visa or mastercard) is all well and good....just not in this case. what i want to see is how creative, prepared and resourceful you can be, not what your credit limit is or how quickly you can complete the ride. REQUIREMENTS- a bike adequate to go long distances while carrying all of your stuff. i would recommend a touring or cyclocross bike, or any decent non-racing road bike in good working order (repairs are your responsibility- think ahead) with at least one rack. oh, and a rack w/ some kind of way to carry stuff on it. larger (700x28+ or 26x1.25+) tires are highly recommended. mountain bikes are fine, but should be set up comfortably. however, i don't think anything with dual suspension will be a) neccessary, and b) fun after the first two hours. but, if that's what you've got... i'd love to see someone ride a fixed gear on this ride. i'm not saying it can't be done, but you sure wouldn't be making things easy on yourself. there are some climbs, descents, and dirt sections-sometimes all at once...all of which i've done on a fixed gear, but three hundred kilometers? whew. the only three conditions i have is that your bike MUST have at least one brake (sorry, riding around like that is foolhardy and an extreme danger on a group ride.), it can't be a track bike (THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR THE TRACK, PEOPLE) and you can't complain more than the rest of us. otherwise, you'll get the special "i told you so" award which consists of a picture of a crying clown...and i have a lot of them. the above also applies to singlespeeds, cruisers, bmx bikes, tricycles, velocipedes, choppers, lowriders, pogo sticks, and any bike purchased at any store ending with "-mart". i plan to have a bike check-in, where a trained mechanic will give your bike a once-over to look for glaring problems.
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those penguins are too much...did you see the movie? i thought it was all right, although my girlfriend wants a pet penguin now...
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i'm sorry mr.cube...i'm tore back since mr. bartender a) wouldn't let me pay for drinks and b) kept filling up my glass everytime i turned my fuckin' head....that fool wants to see me crash and burn, i know it. it doesn't help that i was drunk when i showed up, either. glad i walked.
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[attachmentid=20166]two words...black garvey...oh my jehovah god...also available-red/white/blue marsh- 16 oz. pro color-red, black, green, blue, violet... specialcolor inks (new jersey's worst....acetone based)... green/blue/violet/black garvey.... i think i've died and gone to ink heaven. locally acquired, since i'm casually attired (at work, anyway.) maybe i'll start an ink store. maybe i'll just store the ink. we'll see. just thought you'd like to know. it's still out there. you just have to find it.
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nothanks...tell me about inferno....the euros swear by it and if i wasn't so poor i'd try it too...but, what's the story?
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^^^you might have gotten the last one, but, let me know if they reup. check this out-[attachmentid=20153] found the mother lode....try garvey- bought this today- it's black. i'm stoked.
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sorry, you DID cover the cc. my bad. i just wanted to give you your due, is all. i heard train dog is wrapping it up after this edition (2004). too bad, his was one of the nicest i've seen
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kabar, you ARE the man. i've read a lot of this thread and agree with 99% of what you've said...personally, i'd have a hard time recommending trains as a hobby, but wtf, everyone's got a right to do their thing. i may have missed it, but do you use a cc? you seem like you may not need to, but a lot of these young bucks could benefit from it...plus, i haven't hopped since the 90's and i was wondering how things were these days regarding security. it seems like i see a lot more 53's and less unlocked boxcars these days, but i know kids are still getting around. when i ask them, they just shrug, and say very little. what's your take? pm me if you want.
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whuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?
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get a crew change...
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why are they all four letters?