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  1. ...i have been acused in the past, both on this forum and in real life, of hating art due to my rather critical view of a lot of things...so i thought i would highlight some artists that i really enjoy seeing...the first is the contemporary italian, Maurizo Cattelan...he has been met with both critical acclaim and dismissal...

     

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    "him"

     

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    "la nona ora"

     

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    "bidibidobidiboo"

     

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    "untitled" ...link to controversy of this piece...

     

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    "Frank and Jamie"

     

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    maurizio cattelan

     

     

     

    was born in padua in 1960.

    cattelan did not attend art school but taught himself.

    he worked as a cook, gardener, nurse and mortuary

    attendant, before turning to making art with the hope that the

    art world might offer him ‘better treatment’.

    he began his creative adventures by making furniture

    for his apartment - ‘functional furniture with art meaning’.

    his designs were nothing special, he says, but they sparked

    a lot of interest among italian magazine editors and

    manufacturers. cattelan felt that designing was not right

    for him, and an early show in bologna proved to be a

    turning point.

    today he is one of the best-known italian artist to have

    emerged internationally in the 1990s, and his reputation

    continues to grow.

     

    maurizio cattelan’s art often combines sculpture and

    performance. cattelan has a subtle sense of the paradoxes

    of transgression, the limits of tolerance.

    since the early 1990s, his work has provoked and challenged

    the limits of contemporary value systems through its use

    of irony and humor.

    he teases the art world without ever falling into the naive

    trap of thinking he can subvert a system of which he is part.

    the characters and personas inhabiting maurizio cattelan’s

    world are ghostly appearances in a personal theatre of

    the absurd: policemen flipped upside down, stuffed animals

    hanging from the ceiling, a swami who buried himself in sand

    for hours at a time ...

    suspended between reality and fiction, maurizio cattelan’s

    work simulates and subverts the rules of culture and society

    in a continuous game of detournement, acts of insubordination

    and symbolical theft.

    constantly exploring different materials, contexts and

    strategies, he refuses to take any moral or ideological position,

    concentrating instead on reproducing reality in all its

    complexities. while he does not offer solutions, he shows that

    one can survive and use the system without being consumed

    by it.

     

    he has had solo exhibitions in the most important museums

    worldwide such as the MOMA, new york and the museum of

    contemporary art, los angeles.

    other recent presentation include ludwig museum in cologne,

    germany and at the museum of contemporary art in chicago.

    he has had the most numerous participations at the venice

    biennale. during his five-time presence at the biennale he

    imposed his work as a crucial point of reference in today’s art.

    maurizio cattelan works are part of some of the most important

    public and private collections worldwide such as:

    guggenheim museum, new york; the dakis joannou collection,

    athens; fondation pinault, paris; jumex collection, mexico city;

    rubell family collection, miami; elaine dannheisser collection,

    new york; gilles fuchs collection, paris; seattle museum of

    contemporary art, seattle; migros museum, zurich; F.R.A.C.,

    languedoc roussillon; fonds national d’art contemporain,

    puteaux; F.R.A.C., nord-pas de calais; the israel museum,

    jerusalem; castello di rivoli, turin; fondazione sandretto re

    rebaudengo, turin.

     

    maurizio cattelan lives and works in italy and in the USA.

     

     

    INTERVIEW 2004

     

    what is the best moment of the day?

    I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING

     

    what kind of music do you listen to at the moment?

    WAGNER, MOSTLY.

     

    do you listen to the radio?

    YES, A LOT, BUT I LOOK FOR COMMERCIALS.

     

    what books do you have on your bedside table?

    THE BLIND LEADING THE NAKED.

     

    do you read design magazines?

    I LOOK AT THE PICTURES.

     

    where do you get news from? newspapers?

    ANYWHERE, THEY ARE MOSTLY LIES ANYWAY.

     

    do you notice how women are dressing?

    OH YEZ.

     

    do you have any preferences?

    NO, ANYTHING GOES.

     

    what kind of clothes do you avoid wearing?

    MINI SKIRTS.

     

    do you have any pets?

    DO BACTERIA COUNT?

     

    when you were a child, did you want to become an artist?

    NO, I WANTED TO BECOME A DESIGNER, BUT I WASNT SMART ENOUGH.

     

    where do you work on your artistic concepts?

    ON THE PHONE.

     

    who or which organization would you like to develop

    something for?

    I TEND NOT TO WORK WITH A SPECIFIC PERSON IN MIND.

    ART IS A MATTER OF STATISTICS: IT'S NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS,

    IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE.

     

    do you discuss your work with other artists?

    I TRY TO DISCUSS IT WITH EVERYONE: EVERY PIECE IS A TEST,

    AND IT NEEDS TO BE CONFRONTED, CRITICIZED, DESTROYED

    AND REBUILT. I TEND TO AVOID MY OWN OPINIONS,

    AND JUST TRUST THE OTHERS.

     

    describe your style, like a good friend of yours would describe it.

    LAZY.

     

    can you describe an evolution in your work from your first projects

    to the present day?

    I TRY TO MOVE SIDEWAYS: SO THERE ARE NO EVOLUTIONS,

    ONLY DIGRESSIONS.

     

    what project has given you the most satisfaction?

    PROBABLY THE ONES I COULDNT REALIZE:

    THEY ARE STUCK IN MY MIND, AND THERE IS NOTHING I CAN

    DO TO GET RID OF THEM.

     

    is there any artist from the past, you appreciate a lot?

    WARHOL UEBER ALLES.

     

    is there any designer and/or architect from the past,

    you appreciate a lot?

    BORROMINI.

     

    any advice for the young ?

    GET OLD SOON.

     

    what are you afraid of regarding the future

    EVERYTHING.

     

     

    ...i've found his work to be both completely hilarious and interesting at the same time...many critics dismiss it as simply 'stupid art' along the lines of koons and others...on the contrary, i feel cattelan uses humor to make sharp remarks about contemporary society and the art world, whether or not the viewer knows it...

  2. ...one thing i can remember is eating at people's houses that hold hands and pray about how how thankful they are that they have a meal...i could understand if you're poor and you're not sure when you're going to eat again, but these fuckers had a pantry that was hella full...and holding peoples hands right before i eat just doesn't sit right...and i'm not a big fan of god either...

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    ...i don't think this is available outside the twin cities...but damn is it good...

     

    ...on the east coast i was a yueng fan...best cheap beer ever...how can you beat $1.19 22's at kroger?...and it's damn good on tap...damn i miss you yueng...

     

    ...other favorites...sammy smith...rogue...sierra nevada (...drinking now)...new castle...guiness...

     

    ...someone mentioned moosedrowl brown...i will admit that beer will get you fucked up...crazy drunk...but it tastes like soda...way too sweet...

  4. ...fuck all this bull shit...if there is one line i draw in the world, it's hitting women...there is no excuse...how can you possibly say that she is 'provoking' it with a straight face...the fact of the matter is that women who grow up in families where this kind of stuff goes on do tend to gravitate toward men that also abuse...but that does not mean that she is provoking it by any means...she needs some counseling and he needs to get gang raped in prison a few times...the good thing is that she is still young and if she gets help with this stuff now she will probably be ok...but if she marrys some dolt like this and lives with him for ten years before she realizes that life can be better she's gonna be fucked up and god knows what could happen...

    ...my only advice to you is to talk to her and try to get her other good friends to do the same...convince her to go to get some help somewhere...if you're in a big city there are probably community groups for battered women that are free...offer to attend with her...

     

     

     

    ...ps...there is definately something wrong with a 21 year old dating a 16 year old...in my experience, every guy that goes back to high school to pick up girls is a completely worthless piece of shit...

  5. Originally posted by villain@May 6 2005, 03:45 PM

    Noone said free school lunch?

    That shit kept me alive.

    I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

     

    ...fuck yeah...free lunch, and breakfast if the bus drops you off early enough..."what do you mean you want dinner?...didn't you eat at school today?"

    ...gallon containers of government peanut butter...

    ...government grilled cheese...(that shit never melted...)

    ...spaghetti with no sauce...i seriously had no idea that people ate spaghetti with anything other than butter until i was about 14...

    ...gettin bread from the wonder bread outlet right after they threw it in the dumpster...

    ...wearing my sister's hand-me-downs...gettin new clothes from the church 'clothing drive'...

     

     

    ...the good ol' days of no worries...

  6. Originally posted by Mr. ABC@May 3 2005, 12:27 AM

    what type of job? the reason i ask is getting a working holiday visa here is fine without "real" qualifications, but if you're looking for something more permanent it'll be very hard.

     

    europe is a little different (depending on where you go), but if it's a permanent move you're looking at you'll want to start doing some real research asap cos it takes a lonnnggggg time dealing with immigration no matter where you go.

     

     

    ...i'm pretty sure with my work experience i could qualify for a real visa...but any kind of move is most likely not going to be permanant anyway...all the beurocratic BS of getting a visa does discourage me from just jumping across an ocean or two...i've been looking into artist residencies in other countries though...most are only for a few months, and the good ones give you a place to live and work...but you have to apply about a year or so in advance...

    ...london is looking really good to me...the art scene seems to be flourishing there and most of the stuff coming out i'm really into...i've also thought about vancouver, or somewhere else in canada, just to get away from the US...other places like pittsburg, baltimore and philly have been on the short list for a while...i thought a good bit about newyork...i know a lot of people that are there, and dispite the cost of living are doing pretty well...i have an artshow in atlanta in a couple months, so i'll be checking that out when i'm down there...

  7. Originally posted by Mr. ABC@May 2 2005, 11:49 PM

    either move to europe or australia. if you're a college graduate (with a useful degree, not some bullshit art degree) then getting a visa and a job will be a non issue

     

    ...i do have a bullshit art degree...but i've also held down a real job for the past 8 years thta's completey unrelated...

  8. ...bull shit...our education is not the best in the world, not even close...at least not our public education...private education, post secondary, maybe...one of the biggest problems with public education is that fact that most of the funds come from local property taxes...which means that rich schools get way more funding than inner city schools...the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...our public schools educators are under paid, while millions of dollars are pumped into the security of these schools with off-duty police and security systems, all of which are wastes of money...

    ...it is true that constuction workers and tradesmen still make pretty good money, and their jobs are secure as they ever have been...but what Mr. gates is argueing is that unless we boost the level of education that the relatively well educated recieve, there will be no jobs for them...

    ...there was a very good editorial on this subject by Thomas Friedman in the New York Times last friday...

  9. ...i'm not one to normally do this, but i'm turning to 12oz for advice and help...i need a new place to live...

     

    ...bit of a background...after finishing college i moved halfway across the US with some friends of mine for a reason that never really manifested itself...so my lease is up in a couple of months, and i have no intention of staying here any longer...and the last thing i want to do is move back...i have no obligations to anything, and am willing to go just about anywhere...so give me some feedback on good places to live for a year or so...my criteria is pretty simple:

     

    ...1) hot girls (...is this completely shallow of me to put at the top of the list?...)

    ...2) affordable...

    ...3) good people...

    ...4) a good art scene (...i exhibit regularly as an artist and also write about art...)

    ...5) being able to get around by bike (...i hate cars...)

    ...6) i like painting trains...

     

    ...that's about it...if anyone has any advice for places to live, or places not too, please let me know...also...this is a mult-national plea, i can pack everything i own of value in a couple of suitcases...

  10. ...i have wondered about the anti-trust ramifications myself...time will tell...all major mergers have to be aproved before they become legit anyway...but either way you look at it, both companies have monopolies on their individual markets anyway, as you guys are arguing, quark is the standard, everybody uses it, the same with illustrator and photoshop...combining all these into one integrated system could be used to take advantage of companies that need to use it, but it could also yield some great new programs...

  11. ...inlines are the new hot shit again...like multi color inlines...one right next to the other...mostly with flourecents...it's the hotest new shit since blocky arrows and funk letters...jump on it now, 'fore somebody calls you a biter...

  12. ...you're way too nice...and i thought i was the only one that was a fan of the old colorworks 'sky blue'...i had a huge stockile of that stuff when i found it all for 30 cents a can...i only have one left now...

  13. ...npr did a story recently about fatalities along the rail from the perspective of the engineers that have to deal with it...they interviewed conductors of the Boston transit system...really good story...here's the link...

    npr

    ...sorry to mac users, like myself, because the audio file is not quicktime compatible...

  14. ...it's good...i read the book (...well one of them...) when i was a kid...the movie was definanyly entertaining...english humor, only americanized enough to be able to capitalize on mass market...mos does a good job (...although i wouldn't classify it as an english accent...he just speaks more articulating and slightly uppity...) along with the rest of the cast...the puppets rule!...

     

    ...worth seeing...whether you've read the books or not...

  15. Originally posted by mackfatsoe+Apr 30 2005, 05:28 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mackfatsoe - Apr 30 2005, 05:28 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-porque@Apr 30 2005, 02:10 AM

    ...i would recomend salingers 'nine stories' as a similar period work...

     

    nine stories was strange as shit

     

    i was confused, but i enjoyed it

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    ...'for esme, with love and squalor' is one of my favorite short stories...

  16. ... i just read 'the corrections' by jonathon franzen...damn good...read the whole thing in two days...currently i'm working on an anthology of art criticism by michael fried (circa 60's-70's) as well as selected texts of criticism by richard cork (circa 90's)...i'ma fuckin geek...

     

    ...the great gatsby is an amazingly good novel...i would recomend salingers 'nine stories' as a similar period work...

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