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...i just started going to the gym again last month...i'm not trying to get big...just basic stuff...i've gained about ten pounds since then... ...i eat pretty well...fresh foods...vegetarian...no fast food or soda ever... ...i bike all the time...and i was having regular vigourous sex for a couple hours a night, but graffiti kinda ruined that... ...but i smoke and drink coffee everyday...and drink way too much beer...

...your tone, to me, sounded like you were trying to make a broad generalized statement about the atmosphere of the institutional art world... ...grades don't make art good or bad either... ...but this is completely off of the original topic...

...pop art is definately still a dominant force in the contempary art world...and that art forum issue is pretty good...lots of essays...

yea that sucks, but it doesn't strike me as surprising. Today's art world prefers concept over craft, and value it even more so if its shocking. Concept should be what defines an artist as a 'fine artist', but shock art is such an easy way to make a quick buck. I'm sick if it. The value of shock artists' work is always contingent on those who oppose it, and that doesn't make any fucking sense. Quoted post [/b] ...just because someone makes really intricate, delicate, handcrafted work that they pour their heart into doesn't make it good...i've seen people work really hard at really bad work... ...and just becasue something has an element of shock in it doesn't mean that that's the only thing going for it... ...your story sounds more like it was retold from someone that was pissed and jealous cuz no one liked her ceramic pieces of crap...

...used to see those pretty regularly...they gey hit...they travel...

what do you mean by that? Quoted post [/b] ...just that this thread is so full of bullshit that it doesn't deserve to have gems like that in it...and older flicks of VA don't need to get bogged down in the self-promotin, shit-talkin, dick-strokin bullshit that this and the last 4(?) VA threads have become...i'd rather that stuff be somewhere it can be respected by itself or just live in the memories of those fortunate enough to be there... ...but thats just my opinion...post whatever you want...

...i remember that wall fox...i don't think this thread deserves throwbacks like that...

...it seems to me that at least 90% of freight beef is "jealous-big-ego-no-name-toy" going over "established-been-in-the-game-awhile-well-known-writer" in order to try to get some bit of attention...this is easy to spot and completely pathetic... ...the other 9.5% is toys going over toys... ...and then there is the 0.5% of merited beef... ...grow up kids...its just graffiti...

...don't take flicks at night...bench in the day...

...life is a trend whore... ...denz from 96... ...gvsr e2e's...

...that's just pathetic...that wall lasted for over ten years without any bullshit like that...it's a damn shame to see a bunch of nice pieces get dissed for no reason...some kids need to grow the fuck up and get over themselves...becasue outside of a ten mile radius...no one knows who you are...and nobody cares...

...great way to start the weekend...much appreciated...

...photorealism is inherently linked to concept...the term photorealism is itself an oxy-moron...the photo is not real...it is an image of three demensions portryed in two...therefore painting a photo instead of reality becomes an ironic gesture meant to comment on the realtionship between reality and the idea of reality...but i will certainly admit that once you get it, you get it...and it becomes redundant... ...Richter on the other hand did something differnt...he worked hard to over emphasize the role of the camera in distorting the image...dilleberatly using subjects that were out of focus...this being one of the most distinguishing features of photography vs reality...the human eye sees at an instantly and infinitely changing focal length, while the camera can only use one focal length at a time...Richter translated this most effectively in painting with his series of works that depicted abstract paintings 'out-of-focus'...this is were most wmphatically we can see his idea of object vs reality... ...s.urkaleeno...i am well aware that Warhol studied design in school...but design and high Art are two completely different things...

...they do it like that down south...great post...

...sweet post...

...that show was just out here before there...i like his work...and he's a good guy...

...i don't edit numbers except when i post them... ...one thing to is to make sure your flicks are mixed in with flicks of other people's pieces...they obviously can't charge you with every piece that you have a picture of...my albums are all mixed up of my work, my friends work and random catches all together with railfan shots...other advice that you probably already know...stay out of the shots...avoid night flicks...keep bags out of the way... ...and i would think that unless you have a bunch of flicks of cleans from your area they're not going to worry as much about the train action...especially if they've already got you for a large street charge...if you get caught painting freights it might be different though...so don't get caught...

...radio paints great snowmen...

...BA!...KOS!...MDS!...fuckin rock!... ...all these guys were always a great catch my way...i wish i had my albums...i have so much i could contribute....

...i remember that night...

...one of the issues is that this is not a question of personal taste or opinion...whether something is regarded as high or low is a direct result of the gallery it exists in and the context that surrounds it...education and the institution no longer have anything to do with it either...jeff koons is a self-taught artist, so was warhol...neither of them are 'outsider artists'...some of the most respected critics out there right now never went to a university and studied art either...this is what i mean by the line becoming blurred... ...as far as i can tell...the difference comes from the perspective of the artist, which shapes the context that the work is read in...an artist interested in self exploration and their personal view of what art is ususally degraded as an 'outsider'...these artists are not concerend about the context of their work that is relevant to the grand history of Art...inferences and critiques that place their work alongside movemnets driven by ideas concerning the nature of Art (...abstract expressionism...minimalism...popart...etc...) are completely irrelevant...The work is viewed in complete isolation, it exists outside of 'the pale of art history'...the viewer is presented only with what they see before them...someone that has seem a thousand shows and some one that has only seen one will most likely each read the work the same way...the work only exists in relation to the artist that created it...this perspective of art making is much more inviting for the viewer that is not educated on the history of art, it is easier to handle, and while still being eliteist (...becaseu quite frankly the pursuit of making, showing, or viewing art is absolutely an elitest activity...) it is alot less elitest than the pretentious pursuit of 'Art'...

...caught a few of those myself a little bit ago...including that tight 'disco lobos' jam...good stuff...

...there exists a distinct difference between so called high art and low art...this distinction originally arose during the sixties with the advent of the 'outsider artist'...a term used mostly to define work done by someone that wasn't brought up through the institution of art (...i.e...university study)...this work, while recognized for what it was, was degragrated as basically art that 'didn't count' in the realm of the grand pursuit of Art..this divide has continued and grown to encompass differnt meanings...there are now 'undergound' artists and a whole system of galleries that show their work, while they are kept out of so called 'high art' galleries...the line has become much more blurred becasue many of these artists have been brought up through the art institution, yet the divide clearly exists...as people in school with me put it, "there are juxtapose artists...and there are art forum artists"...few are able to break through the divide, and since most of the artists spotlighted in this forum belong to the 'juxtapose' realm, i am curious about some of your views on the topic...

...toys talkin shit sucks...

...stella was a fuckin genious (...60's-70's)...although i don't know what to think about his work now..the bird paintings from the eighties were pretty crazy weird...but some of the stuff he's been doing as of late i enjoy...