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  1. The threat has always been there A convenient excuse to fuel the fire.
  2. Completely, intimately, and thoroughly, none of us really know dick about any of this war shit beyond the limited range of knowledge we've been exposed to. Every scholar, military expert, liberal activist, right-wing gun-pusher, peacenik, politician, social critic, news anchor, author, ignorant redneck, false prophet, used-car salesman or whoever else the fuck we're becoming influenced by at any given point in time will inevitably kick us down some bullshit that'll fuck with our heads and make us believe in the gospel of holy conviction they'd have us worship, whether it's right or not. The on
  3. No its not a joke, and yes I am a hypocrite. In fact, I take back this entire post. Fuck all of you. I'll kick all of your asses and put in a request for seconds. Then I'll kick my own ass to prove I'm not selective. Who wants it?
  4. I'd cry over etch because its dangerous. People can touch that shit and get hurt. I aint in graffiti to hurt motherfuckers. Rack away though...
  5. Then I'll figure out your name, press charges, and count the dividends while you enjoy the ass-pounding from your new cellmate. Sucker.
  6. Dude I will stress this one - more - time in the interest of stopping you from wasting your breath: I AM NOT INTERESTED IN FUCKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S GRAF. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE STUPIDITY OF STARTING FIGHTS OVER GRAFFITI, NOT HOW TO AVOID BEEF. Who said I did? This is Third Rail: graffiti-related topics. Another thing I notice is people mentioning the old-school a lot in the effort of modeling modern times after those. Who's to say the old-school guys were making the right decisions? They lived that way cause that's how shit was, it doesn't make it right, it just ma
  7. Most of his letter forms don't seem bitten but his style of painting them looks like Ewok and Nace. The epiphany? -- so the fuck what. People who do a healthy amount of clean frieghts, bomb spots and paint nice blockbusters illegally on highways receive props for their effort, Celf is no exception.
  8. More shit about the subject Graff and the rest of the world aint really gonna change. People are gonna fight regardless. But hopefully some people can move a step ahead of the masses and leave some of the completely fucking dumb shit behind. If any of you quick-to-jump-in-and-start-a-fight types ever get beaten to the point you can't just recover and go about your life then maybe you'll understand what I'm saying. You think shit is fun and games until you turn fucking blind in one eye, screw up a nerve or accidentally kill someone, then it's real life and no fucking joke anymore ...
  9. Glass Etch - Hahah, you've got issues. I've never seen someone get so worked up over some message board shit. I'm not siding with anyone, just pointing something out that I've rarely heard anyone even talk about in all the years I've written. Wow, you've scared me to THE CORE and forced me to reevaluate my stance on violence ... things will never be the same in my life. This is a pivotal turning point, really. And I'll have to remind myself not to visit your hardcore neck of the woods for fear of having my "ass tagged." ....? I think you might be
  10. 16- Dissing another writer, in my kind of confusing mind, shouldn't be taken as an invitation for fighting. It's something that graf writers do to stimulate competition among each other. Like I said before, it's not something I try and get involved in, but I see it as actually being positive and progressive. It encourages writers to outdo each other, which is a good thing. I remember JA talking about the fun he had when he was battling Cope in that Cope video -- that's exactly what I'm talking about. There's really no need to take it any further than the graffiti, and the graffiti i
  11. I guess describing a ghetto area that's been hit hard with decline as "fucked up" will aggrevate some people's sensibilities, so I apologize if I did that. What I mean by "fucked up" relates to economic opportunity, communal infrastructure, depression, etc... Yeah, bad choice of words I guess. No one ever accused me of being elegant. My point is still simply that starting fights over graff is pretty stupid.
  12. "Anyone who is willing to fight over what they live?" I never said that. This putting words in my mouth thing is getting out of hand. I'm talking about graf and graf ONLY. If you're fighting for world peace or defending innocent people against attack or some shit like that then, by all means, fight your fucking ass off. No. But you've built a nice little scenario in your head, you should take up playwrighting with that imagination. What the hell? You sound like someone who just dislikes graf. From my experience, doing a piece or catching a simple on a wall in a dirty
  13. Yes it is most people's stance, but this thread wasn't directed at "most people," it was directed at the few who are acting like cavemen and beating their hairy chests to the tune of graf beef. And yes I will fight over graf if I have to -- "have to" being an instance where I can either take a fucking beating or I can defend myself. "I would rather not fight over graf but I will" might actually have been a better title for this thread, but it would be leaving out the part about how I think the fighting is stupid, which is what I've been trying to convey. Let's put it this way; I think a
  14. Sorry for striking a nerve about what happened to Tie, but I could think of no better circumstance than what happened to him to hammer home my point about what you said. No offense meant by it, Tie is a legend who was pointlessly killed ... just like a lot of writers get into pointlessly violent beef that goes nowhere. My question to you is do you think either of these things are right? If you think the guy that shot Tie was in the right for defending his property then by the same token you're defending writers who start shit with other writers for dissing them. Both are "prote
  15. Just to set the record straight on this thread, let me sum up my views: All I wanted to do with this discussion was point out how stupid fighting over graffiti is. There's a certain level of hypocrisy associated with disrespecting something and then expecting your "disrespect" to be respected. I understand why people fight and get pissed off, but I still think it's stupid. I personally made the decision to not let my emotions turn me into a jock when it comes to graf along time ago. Jocks get pissed and beat each other up, writers beat up the system. Also, just because someone choose
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