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you mean a wife beater? Quoted post [/b] guinea tea is the east coast term.

yo, yo, the phattest phat kaps yo are the best yo. nawmsayin yo? alwayz tag with the phattest phat kaps yo. for real yo.

i have seen some truly awful handwriting from some of the more recent writers to come out in my area. as you say, these guys memorize pieces and throwups by practicing the same outline over and over, but fall flat on their face when they deviate from the script. some of it is impatience. when me or you were coming up, most writers were starting around age 12 or so. i had a few years to practice on paper before i was able and ready to go out and bomb. by the time i had access to a car and was able to paint over a wide area, highways etc., i had a lot of work under my belt. many of today's writers are just starting to try their hand at graffiti when they are already in their twenties. they see other writers, often their friends hitting crazy spots and they want to do it too. they aren't going to wait two years while they getting their pencil game up. a lot of people are into graffiti more for the addrenalin/adventure aspect than the art/craftsmanship aspect. in the past, these people just did tags and throwups that were simple but classic. now these people all want to do pieces and stay up with all the style trends. this leads to a lot of painting by people who really don't care about how their shit looks as long as it gets seen. finally, the fact that so many people who are wack but are down with the in crowd or follow all the trends get props, especially on the internet takes away any incentive for the new writers to get good. they see the way to sucess in graffiti as being social climbing and scensterism. which it is now. get down with right people and in a year you get taken to more dope spots than you would have found on your own in 10 years. especially if you want to paint trains, this is important. if you bomb with XXXX from XXX crew, you will come off in magazines, on 12 oz threads etc even if you suck. if your dope but not scene-certified, picture takers will go down the wall and skip your piece, then post the scenester pieces on either side of you on twelve ounce and jockers will repeat their names 15 times down the rest of thread. jesus christ knows ive seen that happen a hundred times on here. we can complain all day about how graffiti has changed for the worse, but how many people actually go out of their way to show new and young writers what's up? i have given a ridiculous amount of time over the last 5 years or so doing this. but most "good" writers will maybe sign some kids black book at a show and thats it. they only want to paint with guys on their level. that's fine, then you really cant complain about the kids.

maybe a couple years ago there were some joke threads that had really, really bad graffiti in fucking terrible places. one thread featured the work of "censored oner" that looked like it was done on farm, and another had some little kids painting crap on hoppers in the woods. or maybe it was all one thread. if some one still has the pictures, put em up cause that shit was funny as hell.

i'm still not clear on the difference between the two kinds of ny thins. i remember i used to get them off testors paint that i racked from the hobby store. then from soho down & under, then flashbacks. then i started using german thins in the mid 90's and stopped using ny thins, then i get some more new york thins recently from 4 the hardway and i never noticed a difference. but i may not have been paying a lot of attention, especially in the early 90's when i was a toy and didn't know anything. is one kind of NY thin is skinnier? did one originally come from testors and one from liquitex spray adhesive or did both these products have the same caps or what? was the old liqutex cap even a real ny thin is was it one of those stock tips that has a semi flare effect?

this IS jersey "old school"...aside from newark, east orange, jersey city , irvington, and some spots like plainfield...very little graffiti was being painted till the 90s...and from some conversations with old school heads from newark, i guess they didn't really document everything they did the way we do today which is a shame... this is a post i've been lookin forward to for a while...dope flicks.. Quoted post [/b] paterson had a scene in the 80s passaic too. JC,hoboken/union city also had a scene. graffiti started popping off in bergen county -hackensack, teaneck area in the late 80's, but it never got really big up there. writers were taking pictures in the 80s, its just that many of the flicks of pieces done in the 80's were lost over the years. i just have come to learn that original pictures of the first peices i remember seeing may no longer exist.

nice flicks, dune. if that auto parts joint is the one on park ave, some of pez's work is still there.

i tried doing this once for about two months. it was pretty much hell. i was alert until about 4, then it got real rough and more caffeine wouldn't help. this was the kind of job where you have to work continuously at repetitive physical tasks and can't slack off at all because your supervisor is right next to you. if it was just sitting around waiting for a customer to come in or something else to happen, that wouldn't have been so bad. one of the dudes there claimed that he was working 4 jobs at once and did not need to sleep.

dope pic, dune. send me a pm.

Uprise 2-Jeru,-Porn,-Tame-1991 Jaz(Miles Davis RIP) -Jeru, Porn, Merge 1991 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that's it. this is not a thread for new jersey in general or rappers who claim to write graffiti or what ever.

Tamer-Tame 1985 Porn-Porn1985 T-Shirt-Shop-Bloomfield-Ave-Tame,Porn 1986 Tshirt-shop-honeys-1986 Luze-Luze 1987 Porn (Silver and Green)-Porn 1985 GM-GM1 1987 Porn Character(City Without Walls Gallery)-Porn, Prins 1985 Porn,Tame-(Silver-and-Black) 1986

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brick City Graf pioneers.Three decades of Graffiti from Tame 1 and the LTD/NRG crew, wreckonize and respect. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crisp(Elliot St. School,N. Newark)-JStarr 1984. the original new jersey writer. Ask(ElliotSt School)-JStarr 1984 Bold (angle shot)-Porn,Tame, Max165, Zash 1984 Bold (full shot)-Porn,Tame, Max165, Zash 1984 CE3-Pez 1985 Ben 110-Tame, Prins, Porn 1985 Ben-110(angle-shot)-Tame,Prins,Porn 1985 Ben-110(Tame angle-shot)-Tame,Prins,Porn 1985 Ber(E.Orange)-Porn-1985 TLD- Unfinished Blackbook Piece- Porn, 1985 Almedarock the Boss- JStarr 1984 It's Only Dust (City Without Walls Gallery)- Tame 1985 NRG-Max 165, Porn 1985 Uprise (Original Recipe)- Jstarr, Jeru 1986 Porn,Tamer- Porn, Tame 1985

i have zubaz. remember that there is only one real zubaz brand and they are not made anymore. zubaz are a scarce commodity and with demand rising, they have the potential be an excellant investment. stock up now.

krylon in the classic era of graffiti was made by a company called borden. in 1991 the brand was bought by sherwin williams and has been continually been watered down. the krylon of the 80's was pretty dope but the stuff today is very thin and dripy. rusto is the thickest paint around, better than montana in the thickness dept. when you factor in all the color ranges -stops rust- satin decor colors- american accents- painters touch - industrial use and so on the color range is pretty good. the real problems with rusto compared to euro paint are 1) it takes for ever to dry, so lots of cutting over the same spot will cause runs, and 2) most importantly the valve sytem on the can sucks balls. only a few caps will work on it and the spray paterns you get are rough and not very fat. that's the real killer with rusto. if rusto paint came in a can with a better valve system, it would be much, much more usable and there would be a lot less demand for the euro paint. i'm sure you noticed that most american graffiti has let sharp, crisp lines than euro graffiti. thats the shitty rutoleum valve system in effect. rusto cans also are hard to mix and skip a lot when they are close to being empty.

its for the columbia university crew team in the harlem river.

fuck lo nigga, i stayed dipped in cross colors and zubaz exclusivley.

damn that must of been a dope show. not many people remember black moon but they were the shit. i don't think them or smif n wessun went down too well outside of the ny area or with the crossover audience. after black moon failed to have a big commerical breakthrough is when rap started going in the bad direction its been in ever since.

are you sure marlin blue was the same as harbor? in the old color charts it looks darker, more like spa blue.

when i was in junior high in the early 90's mad black and puerto rican girls were always getting pregnant from 7th grade on. they usually got abortions though. it was still real common though for PR girls like 13, 14 years of age to have babies. that trend is mostly over. dudes on my eighth grade football team were knocking up girls. this is nothing new. in my 1991 six grade middle school class mad girls were wearing skin tight spandex mini skirts and daisy duke style cutoffs that looked like shit a street whore would wear. definately as bad worse than the shit girls wear now. the sky is not falling down. if you peep the actually statistics, you'll see that teen and preteen pregenacy and births are way down as is the rate of kids who are having intercourse. maybe your town is an exception to the trend, but the overall trend is in the other direction.