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  1. you mean a wife beater? Quoted post [/b] guinea tea is the east coast term.
  2. yo, yo, the phattest phat kaps yo are the best yo. nawmsayin yo? alwayz tag with the phattest phat kaps yo. for real yo.
  3. i have seen some truly awful handwriting from some of the more recent writers to come out in my area. as you say, these guys memorize pieces and throwups by practicing the same outline over and over, but fall flat on their face when they deviate from the script. some of it is impatience. when me or you were coming up, most writers were starting around age 12 or so. i had a few years to practice on paper before i was able and ready to go out and bomb. by the time i had access to a car and was able to paint over a wide area, highways etc., i had a lot of work under my belt. many of today's writers are just starting to try their hand at graffiti when they are already in their twenties. they see other writers, often their friends hitting crazy spots and they want to do it too. they aren't going to wait two years while they getting their pencil game up. a lot of people are into graffiti more for the addrenalin/adventure aspect than the art/craftsmanship aspect. in the past, these people just did tags and throwups that were simple but classic. now these people all want to do pieces and stay up with all the style trends. this leads to a lot of painting by people who really don't care about how their shit looks as long as it gets seen. finally, the fact that so many people who are wack but are down with the in crowd or follow all the trends get props, especially on the internet takes away any incentive for the new writers to get good. they see the way to sucess in graffiti as being social climbing and scensterism. which it is now. get down with right people and in a year you get taken to more dope spots than you would have found on your own in 10 years. especially if you want to paint trains, this is important. if you bomb with XXXX from XXX crew, you will come off in magazines, on 12 oz threads etc even if you suck. if your dope but not scene-certified, picture takers will go down the wall and skip your piece, then post the scenester pieces on either side of you on twelve ounce and jockers will repeat their names 15 times down the rest of thread. jesus christ knows ive seen that happen a hundred times on here. we can complain all day about how graffiti has changed for the worse, but how many people actually go out of their way to show new and young writers what's up? i have given a ridiculous amount of time over the last 5 years or so doing this. but most "good" writers will maybe sign some kids black book at a show and thats it. they only want to paint with guys on their level. that's fine, then you really cant complain about the kids.
  4. After September 11th, I was expecting a real security crackdown, but not much happened. Freights stayed the same as did commuters. Subways got some new security, but were still doable without too much trouble. Just in 2005 though, a lot of shit has went down in my area with both freights and the commuter/subway system. They are starting to get serious about securing the yards. They still have a long way to go to shut things down, but for the first time, I think I can see the end game. I guess if you live in some rural area or something, freights will stay chill indefinately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Terrorist targets sit in state's rail yards Chemical-laden cars vulnerable to attack Monday, July 25, 2005 BY RON MARSICO AND ALEXANDER LANE Star-Ledger Staff Rail tanker cars are the silent heroes of New Jersey's vigorous chemical industry. These black steel cylinders deliver the fuel, ammonia, chlorine and other ingredients used to create products in plants from the banks of the Delaware River to the shoulders of the New Jersey Turnpike. But lawmakers and security experts are becoming increasingly worried that they provide something else -- a profound, ever-present threat to the people who live in and around New Jersey. A ruptured tanker could create a cloud of toxic gas lethal enough to liquefy the lungs of people up to 25 miles away, according to government filings. Those records also show that six of the 10 worst conceivable accidents at New Jersey chemical plants involve 90-ton rail tankers of chlorine exploding at their facilities. To get to the plants, the tanker cars traverse a spider web of largely unguarded rail lines that weave through the state's densely packed residential areas. On any given day, they can be seen sitting for miles beside the Turnpike, a stone's throw from passing motorists. Politicians, activists and security experts are focusing more intently on the threat posed by these tanker s and trying to determine if there is a way to prevent a determined terrorist from turning one into a weapon of mass destruction. Current regulations do little to prevent that, many critics say. "Anybody driving by with a shoulder-fired missile can take off on a chlorine (car)," said Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.), who is pushing for stricter regulations. "It makes no sense." Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., (D-Del.), has introduced a chemical-transport bill that would force companies to reroute dangerous rail tanker cars away from places terrorists are likely to target. It also requires the federal government to research how cars can be made less vulnerable. The measure has stalled in Congress. A tour up and down one of New Jersey's "chemical alleys" -- the industrial area that roughly stretches from the Bayway Refinery in Linden up through the northern sections of Port Newark -- reveals a stark vulnerability. A Star-Ledger reporter and photographer last week found easy access points to tanker cars. At one end of Bayway Avenue in Elizabeth, for example, the only security at an open fence leading directly to tankers was a few "No Trespassing" signs. Trembly Point Road in Carteret crossed the Turnpike and freight tracks, providing a clear line of sight to nearby trains below on the tracks. In many places, little more than a guardrail, trees and brush are deterrents. Hazmat signs and universal chemical-identification numbers on the sides of the tanker cars -- designed to tip off first-responders to chemical threats in case of a fire or other emergency -- also provide a handy guide to the contents of the cars. Union County Sheriff Ralph Froelich said he occasionally sees graffiti marring the rail tanker cars. Those scrawlings evoke fears far more troubling than a vandal's can of spray paint, he said. "The Turnpike is so easy to ride and stop. Some type of projectile is not out of reach," Froelich said. "Hell, I could throw a rock and hit some of the rail cars." Rick Hind, a toxics expert for Greenpeace, said one frightening scenario could involve a terrorist climbing onto a car and detonating a homemade explosive. "Something like that is going off in Iraq every day," he said. "Our recommendation would be that they explore -- and this is in Biden's rail safety bill -- other kinds of shipping methods," Hind said. "We just accept that a 90-ton rail car should be rolling through people's communities." Rail industry representatives contend the alternatives are limited. Conrail says rerouting rail cars is not possible and there is nowhere else to park them. A security plan is in place, according to the company, which declines to offer specifics. "Our track infrastructure is really pretty utilized -- be it for storage or moving freight," said John Enright, a Conrail spokesman. "The obvious question is, where would you put (the cars)?" Conrail has fenced in certain spots and uses railroad police with Norfolk Southern and CSX Transportation Inc. to help protect and patrol the freight lines, Enright said. "Of course, we don't fence our whole network," he said. "That wouldn't be cost-effective." Initially driven by the 9/11 attacks, concerns over freight and passenger rail security have intensified nationally after the London Underground bombings that killed more than 50 people this month. In a chillingly related scenario July 16 in Iraq, a suicide bomber detonated explosives that blew up a gas tanker truck, killing more than 90 people. Corzine said he is particularly worried about the rail tanker cars containing chlorine that serve a major bleach manufacturing plant in South Kearny near the Pulaski Skyway. He wants Conrail, which owns the tracks along the Turnpike, to "stop parking them next to the Turnpike and on overpasses. That, to me, is unacceptable." Corzine, who has introduced legislation to improve both rail and chemical plant security, said he does not favor rerouting because it might hurt New Jersey communities that derive tax revenues from industries along the Turnpike. The federal government already has begun taking some steps. U.S. Transportation Security Administration officials created a $10 million pilot program along a seven-mile rail corridor through Washington to assess ways to lessen risks of a terrorist attack. TSA officialsalso are working with railroads and local representatives to improve fencing and install video monitors and intrusion detectors while increasing security patrols. The agency, however, does not favor a blanket prohibition on rail tanker cars in highly populated areas. "We always have rerouting as a tactical measure we can use when appropriate ... when we're aware of a threat or a potential threat," TSA spokesman Mark Hatfield said. But, he added, the agency is responsible for "taking into consideration the needs of commerce and the free movement of goods and people."
  5. i can assure you the police in NYC don't need to come on here posing as some fool from out of town to find out where the graffiti shops are.
  6. no. wrong. there are metropolitan areas in the US with extensive rail systems, like NYC, NJ, boston, philly, and chicago. and its true that more shit gets done than most people who are not doing it themselves realize. but its not on the same level as europe. less cars are being done, and a lot less whole cars than if these sytem were in europe. when graffiti came to europe, writers starting hitting the trains very early on and the scene has remained train oriented. even in parts of the US where there are trains, this was not the case. if euro systems never had a dirty period, and always had the kind of security they have now, probably it would not be as big as it now. but because they let it get out of control, the pattern has been set and writers now will hit the trains no matter what.
  7. maybe a couple years ago there were some joke threads that had really, really bad graffiti in fucking terrible places. one thread featured the work of "censored oner" that looked like it was done on farm, and another had some little kids painting crap on hoppers in the woods. or maybe it was all one thread. if some one still has the pictures, put em up cause that shit was funny as hell.
  8. i'm still not clear on the difference between the two kinds of ny thins. i remember i used to get them off testors paint that i racked from the hobby store. then from soho down & under, then flashbacks. then i started using german thins in the mid 90's and stopped using ny thins, then i get some more new york thins recently from 4 the hardway and i never noticed a difference. but i may not have been paying a lot of attention, especially in the early 90's when i was a toy and didn't know anything. is one kind of NY thin is skinnier? did one originally come from testors and one from liquitex spray adhesive or did both these products have the same caps or what? was the old liqutex cap even a real ny thin is was it one of those stock tips that has a semi flare effect?
  9. this IS jersey "old school"...aside from newark, east orange, jersey city , irvington, and some spots like plainfield...very little graffiti was being painted till the 90s...and from some conversations with old school heads from newark, i guess they didn't really document everything they did the way we do today which is a shame... this is a post i've been lookin forward to for a while...dope flicks.. Quoted post [/b] paterson had a scene in the 80s passaic too. JC,hoboken/union city also had a scene. graffiti started popping off in bergen county -hackensack, teaneck area in the late 80's, but it never got really big up there. writers were taking pictures in the 80s, its just that many of the flicks of pieces done in the 80's were lost over the years. i just have come to learn that original pictures of the first peices i remember seeing may no longer exist.
  10. nice flicks, dune. if that auto parts joint is the one on park ave, some of pez's work is still there.
  11. those three flicks are all in NJ.
  12. i tried doing this once for about two months. it was pretty much hell. i was alert until about 4, then it got real rough and more caffeine wouldn't help. this was the kind of job where you have to work continuously at repetitive physical tasks and can't slack off at all because your supervisor is right next to you. if it was just sitting around waiting for a customer to come in or something else to happen, that wouldn't have been so bad. one of the dudes there claimed that he was working 4 jobs at once and did not need to sleep.
  13. dope pic, dune. send me a pm.
  14. Uprise 2-Jeru,-Porn,-Tame-1991 Jaz(Miles Davis RIP) -Jeru, Porn, Merge 1991 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that's it. this is not a thread for new jersey in general or rappers who claim to write graffiti or what ever.
  15. Tamer-Tame 1985 Porn-Porn1985 T-Shirt-Shop-Bloomfield-Ave-Tame,Porn 1986 Tshirt-shop-honeys-1986 Luze-Luze 1987 Porn (Silver and Green)-Porn 1985 GM-GM1 1987 Porn Character(City Without Walls Gallery)-Porn, Prins 1985 Porn,Tame-(Silver-and-Black) 1986
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