slowDown Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Has anyone ever heard of this guy? Someone at lunch today was talking to me him. Some of his theories sounded interesting, some far fetched. His Wikipedia entry: Zecharia Sitchin (born 1922)[1] is an author of books promoting the ancient astronaut theory for human origins. He attributes the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Annunaki (or Nephilim) from a hypothetical planet named Nibiru in the solar system. He asserts that Sumerian mythology reflects this view, though his speculations are largely ignored by mainstream scientists and historians who see many problems with both his translations and understanding of physics.[2] // Life Sitchin was born in Baku, Azerbaijan, and was raised in the British Mandate of Palestine. He acquired a knowledge of modern and ancient Hebrew, other Semitic and European languages, the Old Testament, and the history and archeology of the Near East. Sitchin graduated from the University of London, majoring in economic history. A journalist and editor in Israel for many years, he now lives and writes in New York. His books have been widely translated, converted to braille for the blind, and featured on radio and television. Ideas According to Sitchin's interpretation of Sumerian cosmology, there is a hypothetical planet which follows a long, elliptical orbit, reaching the inner solar system roughly every 3,600 years. This planet is called Nibiru (the planet associated with Marduk in Babylonian cosmology). Nibiru collided catastrophically with Tiamat, another hypothetical planet that was between Mars and Jupiter. The collision formed the planet Earth, the asteroid belt, and the comets. Tiamat, as outlined in the Enûma Elish, is a goddess. According to Sitchin, however, Tiamat may have been what we now know as Earth. When struck by one of planet Nibiru's moons, Tiamat split in two. On a second pass Nibiru itself struck the broken fragments and one half of Tiamat became the asteroid belt. The second half, struck again by one of Nibiru's moons, was pushed into a new orbit and became today's planet Earth. This scenario is hard to reconcile with the earth's current small orbital eccentricity of only 0.0167. Sitchin's supporters maintain that it would explain Earth's peculiar early geography due to cleaving from the celestial collision—i.e. solid continents on one side and a giant ocean on the other. While this is consistent with the giant impact hypothesis for the origin of the moon, that event is estimated to have occurred 4.5 billion years ago. According to Sitchin, Nibiru was the home of a technologically advanced human-like extraterrestrial race (called the Anunnaki in Sumerian myth) who were called the Nephilim in the Bible. He claims they first arrived on Earth probably 450,000 years ago, looking for minerals, especially gold, which they found and mined in Africa. These "gods" of the Anunnaki were the rank and file workers of the colonial expedition to earth from planet Nibiru. Sitchin believes the Anunnaki genetically engineered Homo sapiens as slave creatures to work their gold mines by crossing extraterrestrial genes with those of the Homo erectus. Sitchin claims ancient inscriptions report that human civilization in Sumer of Mesopotamia was set up under the guidance of these "gods", and human kingship was inaugurated to serve as an intermediary between the Anunnaki and mankind. Sitchin believes that fallout from nuclear weapons used during a war between factions of the extraterrestrials is the "evil wind" that destroyed Ur around 2000 BC (Sitchin himself claims the exact year is 2024 BC), as recorded in the Lament for Ur.[3] Sitchin claims that his research coincides with many biblical texts, and that the biblical texts come originally from the Sumerian writings of their history. When Sitchin researched his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language, but now anyone can check his translations in the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon.[4] Sitchin's translations of both individual words and of larger portions of ancient texts are considered by his critics to frequently be incorrect.[5][6] Sitchin has also claimed that certain unusual human genes discovered in 2001 were not the result of horizontal gene transfer from bacteria as concluded by geneticists ( these genes could have been transferred to bacteria from humans as well), but were instead inserted into the human genome by aliens. The research itself was challenged shortly after it was published. Controversy over his views Sitchin's 'planetary collision' view does superficially resemble a theory which is seriously entertained by modern astronomers —the giant impact theory of the Moon's formation about 4.5 billion years ago by a body impacting with the newly-formed Earth. However, Sitchin's proposed series of rogue planetary collisions differ in both details and timing. As with Immanuel Velikovsky's earlier Worlds in Collision thesis, Sitchin claims to find evidence of ancient human knowledge of rogue celestial motions in a variety of mythological accounts. In Velikovsky's case, these interplanetary collisions were supposed to have taken place within the span of human existence, whereas for Sitchin these occurred during the early stages of planetary formation, but entered the mythological account passed down via the alien race which purportedly evolved on Nibiru after these encounters. Problems with theory basis Sitchin has based his entire theory off of Pre-Nubian and Sumerian texts, and the seal VA 243. Sitchin claims these ancient civilizations knew of a 12th planet, when in fact they only knew five.[7] Hundreds of Sumerian astronomical seals and calendars have been decoded and recorded, and the total count of planets on each seal has been five. Seal VA 243 has 12 dots that Sitchin identifies as planets. When translated seal VA 243 reads "You're his Servant" which is now thought to be a message from a nobleman to a servant. The so called sun on Seal VA 243 is not the Sumerian symbol for the sun but is a star, and the dots are also stars.[8][9] Hundreds of sun symbols have been documented, and the symbol on seal VA 243 has no resemblance to the documented symbols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGLYKUNT Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 listen to Sicksince .... if you dont belive that reptilians, aliens exist dont even bother looking up thier history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ape Shit Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 i've got his book The 12th Planet, but haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japillahan Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 what i have read has been good. i haven't read much/\ i would read more if i had more time on my hands but i dont have any time on my hands because it is hard to touch the fourth dimention goodnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreSixO Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 STOP Sitchin!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Every third wingnut in Berkeley tries to tell me about this shit...it's like the missing link for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 i was trying to think of this today! thanks. i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenle Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hi96 Love your neighbor as yourself.Precious jewelry pearl shops onlinejewelry findings wholesaleAnniversary gift white pearl necklaceThread Topazwholesale christian jewelry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymatics Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Sitchin's Lost Book of Enki makes a good read..don't really know what to make of it, but i think it would be dope to see it made into a big budget movie though...but before any of you guys dive into any of his books you should probably do your own homework on sumerian history yourselves. example: King James book of Genesis plagiarized this.... http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr112.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The guy is a genius in his own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Sounds like the guy is just trying to outdo Hubbard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delonemonkey Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 he is entertaining non the less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxaddict Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 http://www.sitchiniswrong.com /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxaddict Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Actually, I guess even if it is fiction it might be a little interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Actually, I guess even if it is fiction it might be a little interesting. How many ancient languages does the guy know again? More than 3 for sure. If you have ever heard him speak, he doesn't come off as a nut. He is just interpreting what he see's. I'm not a big "ancient astronaut" believer, but I do find it interesting. Might as well mix it up in the ol' cranium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 casek: what is your explanation for a lot of the shit found in the world, only visible from the sky? hmmmmmm? this seems to be my only valid reason for entertaining this theory. please tell me how you discredit centuries old relics... only viewed from "the heavens". /nositchin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEVEL 75 PALADIN Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortFuse Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Haha I rented a video out of redbox which was absolutly horrible!!! But I think the whole scifi idea for the movie was based on this dudes idea. It was called "Humanities End." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 casek: what is your explanation for a lot of the shit found in the world, only visible from the sky? hmmmmmm? this seems to be my only valid reason for entertaining this theory. please tell me how you discredit centuries old relics... only viewed from "the heavens". /nositchin It is possible that humankind was more advanced at one time, it's possible that humankind once had visitors from another world, it's possible that humankind once expected visitors from the sky, etc. Anything and everything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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