heavyLox Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 what wonders now await the middle east. power struggles here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GLIK$ Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 REST IN PAKISTAN OH SHIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryCurl Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Way to go, Mr. Current Events... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Fuck him, maybe we can get somewhere with this shit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatcherSB Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Great! ~ power struggle that maybe US will help with, like most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClueTwo Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I heard some sope in my office talking about Arafat's wife and how she can't get the bajillions of dollars he has willowed away in his plentiful years...Anyone else hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Fuck Yasser Arafat. Rest in Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 i dont give a shit, i liked arafat. dude was in a very bad position and did just about as well as anyone possibly could. there was even (relative) peace in the region for a while under his leadership. respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 he was a criminal, but.....rip. now if only the real slimebags would croak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I disagree, he ruled via corruption and hate. He was so power-hungry that there is now a problem as to who will take his place because everyone below him was far below him. Plus he's ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 PLO Style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uncle-boy Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 no respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzep Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by fermentor666@Nov 11 2004, 01:44 AM Plus he's ugly. Quoted post I always thought he was cute in a sickly chihuahua sort of way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 The thing that really pissed me off about Arafat was that he helped engineer the "permanent refugee status" of the Palestinians in various Middle Eastern countries. So for well over fifty years, the Palestinian people have remained in these squalid camps, which became breeding grounds for the most despicable sorts of hatred and terrorism, rather than declaring a cease fire and beginning to build normal lives. The West Bank could have easily become a Palestinian homeland, if Arafat and his fanatical minions had just been willing to live in peace. But, long story short, they were not willing to accept the facts on the ground. The relentless terror attacks against Israel have just pushed the Israelis father and farther into a militaristic defense posture that guarantees things like armored gun towers with permenant sniper positions, electrified fences, concrete barrier walls to prevent infiltration, continuous occupation patrols by the IDF, rubber bullet fusillades, bulldozing houses used by terrorists, etc., etc. I can understand why each side despises the other, after fifty years of killings, bombings, attacks and counter-attacks. Maybe with Arafat gone, the peace process can get going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by KaBar2@Nov 11 2004, 02:29 AM The thing that really pissed me off about Arafat was that he helped engineer the "permanent refugee status" of the Palestinians in various Middle Eastern countries. So for well over fifty years, the Palestinian people have remained in these squalid camps, which became breeding grounds for the most despicable sorts of hatred and terrorism, rather than declaring a cease fire and beginning to build normal lives. The West Bank could have easily become a Palestinian homeland, if Arafat and his fanatical minions had just been willing to live in peace. But, long story short, they were not willing to accept the facts on the ground. The relentless terror attacks against Israel have just pushed the Israelis father and farther into a militaristic defense posture that guarantees things like armored gun towers with permenant sniper positions, electrified fences, concrete barrier walls to prevent infiltration, continuous occupation patrols by the IDF, rubber bullet fusillades, bulldozing houses used by terrorists, etc., etc. I can understand why each side despises the other, after fifty years of killings, bombings, attacks and counter-attacks. Maybe with Arafat gone, the peace process can get going again. Quoted post RIP Rahman Abdel-Raouf Arafat Al-Qudwa AKA Yaser Arafat 1929-2004 :sadcrying: and since when has israel been about peace?? is my question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Nekro@Nov 10 2004, 11:30 PM Fuck him, maybe we can get somewhere with this shit now. Quoted post Who exactly do you refer to as WE?..... RIP arafat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Funny how Arafat USED to be considered a freedom fighter by us and an ally. Things were relatively okay, there were still problems with an encroaching Isreali people upon the Palestinians, but since Sharon (a well known extremist) took office and legalized previously illegal settlements upon Palestinian land, all hell has broken loose. Is it a coincidence that Sharon took power around the same time that Bush did? Probably not. This is pretty much what has really been going on. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/mapstellstory.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 oh, did i ever mention 'fuck israel'? seeks/just checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Like I said before, no love for Arafat. Now Sharon needs to kick the bucket as well. THEN we might see some progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Thamaire Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 ClueTwo I heard some sope in my office talking about Arafat's wife and how she can't get the bajillions of dollars he has willowed away in his plentiful years...Anyone else hear this? ye,its what the story is about,she was living in europe for 4 years now,spending money in shoppin,and she haven't seen him for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Tesseract+Nov 11 2004, 09:38 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract - Nov 11 2004, 09:38 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Nekro@Nov 10 2004, 11:30 PM Fuck him, maybe we can get somewhere with this shit now. Quoted post Who exactly do you refer to as WE?..... RIP arafat Quoted post [/b] WE are people who want a peaceful solution to the conflict over there. I used it in the same context mams did, as a refrence to peole who want this whole bullshit scenario to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I am not 100% on all the facts, but am informed at the Isreali/Palestinian situation and I thought Yasser did an ok job. RIP to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 arafat was not standing in the way of peace. arafat was futilly trying to control a group of people who would rather kill (and die) than live in proverbial cages. he wasn't perfect, but that situation is so jacked, that if he was an angel, he'd be useless. neither gandhi or ghengis khan could have been as effective as he was (no matter how ineffective that was at times). peace will happen when israel gets put in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 RIP shits gonna get uglier. we all know it. although, I'd love to be proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 "I have come bearing an olive branch and a freedom fighter's gun. Do not let the olive branch fall from my hand." -- Arafat, addressing the United Nations on November 13, 1974 "The peace process has begun. And the peace train must reach the terminal because the forces for peace in the world will not allow the hands of the clock to be turned back to the times of calamity." -- Arafat, before an Oxford University audience in 1996 "The daily Israeli aggression is offensive to our people, our villages, our refugee camps and holy sites which belong to Muslims and Christians. Our duty today, the duty of all of us is to continue the work that I started with my late partner Yitzhak Rabin, to protect the peace of the brave and to continue and complete that work." -- Arafat addressing his followers in September 2003, on the tenth anniversary of the Oslo Accords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Catch22 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 The Palestinians should've kicked Arafat out long time ago. He is the main reason the palestinians live in the conditions they do. According to the International Monetary Fund, Arafat has diverted $900 million in Palestinian aid to a private bank accounts. No wonder he didn't want peace. As long as the Palestinians were being oppresed then he could steal all the money sent to help them. Here's some more references: ● Times of London: 'Arafat's policy of divide and rule has not only neutralized Palestinian rivals but stymied any political and economic progress.... Mr Arafat's cynicism has now run its course, and stoked the present conflict.' ● MSNBC: 'The walls are closing in on Yassir Arafat...never before have so many disparate groups of Palestinians, including those from Arafat's own Fatah movement, formed such a united front on such a clearly definable issue - end corruption or else.' ● Arab Times (Kuwait): 'Mr Arafat should quit his position because he is the head of a corrupt authority. There is no point for him to remain in politics... He has destroyed Palestine. He has led it to terrorism, death and a hopeless situation... All Arab leaders know this fact. It won't be possible for us to gain from the Middle East road map for peace if this man remains in power. ● BBC quoted a Jenin Martyrs' Brigade spokesman: 'With all due respect to President Arafat, the Palestinian Authority cannot continue being monopolised by [Arafat] and his relatives...we have our own ways to show our rejection. ● Al-Quds Al-Araby (London): 'What is happening in Gaza is a healthy phenomenon because it is a revolution against corruption and the corrupt... This is a warning not only to Mr Arafat... but to all Arab regimes which subjugate their people by turning a deaf ear to their calls for comprehensive change. ● Pravda: Under the headline, 'Nobody trusts Arafat any more,' stated that 'Everything Yasser Arafat has been doing can be described as an illusion of reforms. Icould post more but you all get the point. :evil2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Nekro+Nov 11 2004, 10:31 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nekro - Nov 11 2004, 10:31 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by Tesseract@Nov 11 2004, 09:38 AM <!--QuoteBegin-Nekro@Nov 10 2004, 11:30 PM Fuck him, maybe we can get somewhere with this shit now. Quoted post Who exactly do you refer to as WE?..... RIP arafat Quoted post WE are people who want a peaceful solution to the conflict over there. I used it in the same context mams did, as a refrence to peole who want this whole bullshit scenario to be over. Quoted post [/b] Word, in that context, WE had no problems with Arafat or atleast WE had and still have bigger problems with Sharon. Its easy to sit back and discredit whoever you want from your computer but its atleast ignorant not to realise just how much it takes to be Arafat in Arafat's shoes for so many years. This is not a personal attack to you Nekro but i get pissed when all shit goes in the same bucket. We want peace in the middle east? WE want israel to back the fuck off. Its that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Chill out, nobody is blameless over there by any means. I'll be just as happy when Sharon and all the crazies on both sides back the fuck off and let some rational people negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 rational people were negotiating....then the israelis assasinated their guy and elected a war criminal. arafat very well have been corrupt but to blame him for the current plight of the palestinians is like blaming bill clinton for the increase in oral sex amongst high schoolers. shit was going on before and it will be going on after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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