DETO Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 most of you have read the "so..........yeah" thread so my question to all you is,would you kill your self for someone you really cared about? or if that person hurt you? would you ever tak eyour own life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 nope... I can honestly say that it's NEVER crossed my mind. Change is Constant, and Change is Good, therefore Good can also be Constant... (or just around the corner). and to do some heart punching.... A life given in vain, was wasted. No life is so worthless that it can be used as a bargaing chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETO Posted June 11, 2002 Author Share Posted June 11, 2002 Originally posted by --zeSto-- nope... I can honestly say that it's NEVER crossed my mind. Change is Constant, and Change is Good, therefore Good can also be Constant... (or just around the corner). and to do some heart punching.... A life given in vain, was wasted. No life is so worthless that it can be used as a bargaing chip. word, that scared the shit out of me when Kal was talking about how she didn't wanna live. I told her nothing is worth your life, nothing or no one. i could never take my own life, now someone else's now thats a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickone Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 preach on zesto! i would have to say for myself that i would never kill myself over someone else, or anything for that matter, the only way i would die for another person would be trying to protect them from harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETO Posted June 11, 2002 Author Share Posted June 11, 2002 i would die for her in the instance TiCaLiOn sTaLiOn is saying if it was her life or my life and if i really loved them that much yes, but not suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 I'd die for you DETO...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzep Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 depends who that someone else was, it depends on thier age and other factors which i am too lazy to type. kill myself, hmm... i'd like to say no but you never know, but i view suicides as being a sign of weakness (no offense to anyone, just puttin what i feel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 FOR MY GF OR WIFE , ABSOLUTELY . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Priest Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Might as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-town_bomber Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 for close family yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadlydnut Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by DETO most of you have read the "so..........yeah" thread so my question to all you is,would you kill your self for someone you really cared about? or if that person hurt you? would you ever tak eyour own life? perhaps if it was to save the person I loved, like I'd jump in front of the shooter and take the bullet if I loved them enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REGULATOR Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 if i was to jump in front of a someone i loved about to get hit my a bullet or something, (which i would)...please believe she better be giving me head in the hospital....having your life saved comes at a price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ceas902 Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 for my family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 killing yourself is selfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test pattern Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 I'd die for my family. I'd definitely die for my girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosolfunk Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by iCEBERG killing yourself is selfish so is it better to torment yourself slowly instead of abruptly ending pain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILYSH Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 do i get 72 virgins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dELiSs Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 if the situation was - its either me or the other person to die.. i'd want to be the one to die..but o dont know about takin myown life... not that it hasnt come to thought a few times... but i think im getting over this long period of depression... things can change . u never know...blahblah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_As_In_Bot Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 INVALID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by aerosolfunk so is it better to torment yourself slowly instead of abruptly ending pain? you completely missed my point. killing yourself is still selfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChupacabra Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 i wouldn't ever kill myself for someone, but i would take a bullet for quite a few people i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttercup Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by iCEBERG killing yourself is still selfish yeah, but asking someone else to live through hell for the sake of family/friend's feelings is TOTALLY SELFLESS:rolleyes: yep, you guessed it, bodice_ripper has tried to take her own life. When I was 15. I'm never sure whether or not I'm happy that I didn't succeed.. but it's my life to waste. I only answer to myself. If family/friend's first concern about my demise is "Oh how could she do that to us?!", then their feelings are of no consequence. Taking your life is a bottom-of-the-barrel, last resort. If you have time/the capacity to worry about that stuff, then you probably aren't at that point yet. (now, the way I see it, if you're going to off yourself, you might as well take someone you hate with you..........) would I die for my girlfriend? yes, without hesitation, and smile as i did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 *note... incase you missed it... boxcarwilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by *_lacrimae_* yeah, but asking someone else to live through hell for the sake of family/friend's feelings is TOTALLY SELFLESS:rolleyes: yep, you guessed it, bodice_ripper has tried to take her own life. When I was 15. I'm never sure whether or not I'm happy that I didn't succeed.. but it's my life to waste. I only answer to myself. If family/friend's first concern about my demise is "Oh how could she do that to us?!", then their feelings are of no consequence. Taking your life is a bottom-of-the-barrel, last resort. If you have time/the capacity to worry about that stuff, then you probably aren't at that point yet. (now, the way I see it, if you're going to off yourself, you might as well take someone you hate with you..........) would I die for my girlfriend? yes, without hesitation, and smile as i did it. i like your approach on certian situations but that doesnt change anything. killing yourself is selfish in my opinion. i can hit you with reasons all day as to why/how ive come to think this but argueing with me won't change my opinion. as i realize i won't be able to justify my position to you. i directed that comment at no one so don't feel it was directed at you. you know you've got one of the most highly respected opinions on this board (maybe its just me) just dont try to change mine. im an open minded dude but i've found it helps to be open minded elsewhere then here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttercup Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by iCEBERG i can hit you with reasons all day as to why/how ive come to think this but argueing with me won't change my opinion. as i realize i won't be able to justify my position to you. you don't have to justify anything. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind per se. That's the whole point of it being YOUR life. To the person *you* are, suicide is selfish. To the person *I* was, it was my last option. To some people, it wouldn't even occur to them to try it. It just bothers me to hear "suicide it selfish" after someone offs themselves, because no one else will ever really understand what went through that person's head in their last moments. suicide is something to be mourned, its not a time to place blame, you feel me? I guess my stand point it this: No one will ever be as alone as they are when they reach the moment where they make that decision. No amount of you/me/society at large talking about it will hold any import at that moment. That second will be too real, and fleeting, to turn it into an "issue" to be debated. (thank you for letting me discuss this point in detail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 killing yourself is never anyones last option. you believe it to be. the psychology behind all this goes way too deep for me to even pretend i have a strong understanding of what goes on. "It just bothers me to hear "suicide it selfish" after someone offs themselves, because no one else will ever really understand what went through that person's head in their last moments. suicide is something to be mourned, its not a time to place blame, you feel me?" i wasnt ever putting the blame on anyone in the first place. unfortunatly to everyone that has taken their life that i've now personally, maybe im just bitter they left me behind. this is already starting to head in the direction that im trying to prevent. wether its an arguement or us just justifying our positions to eachother. im not trying to do either. "No amount of you/me/society at large talking about it will hold any import at that moment. That second will be too real, and fleeting, to turn it into an "issue" to be debated. " couldnt agree more point well takin and your welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttercup Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by iCEBERG killing yourself is never anyones last option. you believe it to be. yes, and I could say that *you* just aren't at that point right now. My point is that it is so personal a moment that you just can't make sweeping statements like that ^^^ about it. (I didn't mean to imply that you blamed anyone, it was a weak choice of phrase on my part) no argument man, its just the board has been experiencing something of a worthwhile debate drought of late...I can't help but discuss this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizx Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 ive almost killed my self a couple of times, due to my dad, my life, and things most of you wouldnt understand, but i never actually did it, because i think of all the good things, and how much i would miss them.. from now on.. when im feeling depressed i just go out and paint like crazy, like shit over bridges and shit.. because atleast if i die there... i die doing something i love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by *_lacrimae_* no argument man, its just the board has been experiencing something of a worthwhile debate drought of late...I can't help but discuss this. OHHH GOD WHEN WILL IT STOP?@!#$#$ aww bodice damn stop already ok fine IM WRONG?> I SORRY#@!$ MAKE IT STOP PLEASE I CANT HANDLE THIS BULLSHIT you know you always try to make it look like i or anyone else.... :lol: im playin for once im not game for an arguement/debate but i will tell you this... i am drinking cream soda right now... and its pink. who woulda thought? and now that ive noticed the color it tastes like bubblegum. but it is cream, the color has ruined my soda. im going to go dump it out and eat my hot pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilush Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Originally posted by DETO most of you have read the "so..........yeah" thread so my question to all you is,would you kill your self for someone you really cared about? or if that person hurt you? would you ever tak eyour own life? welll...i would jump in front of a bullet to save the one that i love. because i know that he would too. but as far as killing myself for him, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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