Guest WebsterUno Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 i have 2 questions about wine. 1. can i find a decent/good wine at the grocery store? 2. have you ever cooked food with wine? if so, what kind and what were the results? ok, thats like almost 4. i cooked some chicken with wine 2 nights ago, and it came out pretty good. i was at the store looking for some wine, but i dont know wines too well. so, i went for what i knew. i got one of them huge jugs of rossi. i use most of it to boil my chicken. the rest of it went in my belly. then i slapped some bbq sauce on them breasts and grilled em real quick... :yum: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 i don't know much about wine myself, but i know don't use cooking wine. Chefs say, if its not good enough to drink, its not good enough to cook with. white wine - chicken/ fish red wine - beef red wine has a fuller (for lack of a better word) flavor, so i think it would go better with red meat, while white wine is more delicate so poaching or sauteeing in white wine may go better with fish. champagne and oj is great though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilush Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 a mimosa sounds so good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLICKCLACKONER Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Devilush a mimosa sounds so good right now. i think you're thinging about champagne;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilush Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by JesusMachine i think you're thinging about champagne;) oh i know. i was replying to this: Originally posted by effyoo champagne and oj is great though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 you know how people say red wine with red meat and white wine with fish, chicken etc. well that rule should go out the window. It doesn't apply so much if the wine is good. *pinot grigio* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLICKCLACKONER Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 my bad nigga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 ^^^ true, but i was talking about cooking with it. and of course, if it tastes good just do it the way you like it. it just seems like thats a good guideline to follow. but who knows, cooking isn't my baliwick. (thats the word of the day) *(in response to key3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Yes you can get a good wine at the grocery store anywhere from $9-$20. Let me go see what i have really quick and i will give you some recomendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timemachine Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 um, well im a chef and although i do not drink anymore because of my religion, i have drunk some good wine. to your first question: i personally have never really found any good wines in any grocery stores that i have been to. liquor stores man, liquor stores, thats the only place to go;. to your second question:the MOST IMPORTANT thing to remember about cooking with wine is to USE WINE THAT YOU WOULD DRINK that you think is good. the whole rule about white/fish, red for beef does not reall yapply anymore since there are just so many ways you can use wine. so ya use wine you think is good to u, never use cooking wine from a place like safeway, etc. etc. peace tk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timemachine Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 you can also use white wine for such thinks as venison (we use that a lot in the restaurant) and a lot of prok/gamey meats. word to big bird tk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilush Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 oo white wine on venison...mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 *believe* Originally posted by effyoo ...champagne and oj is great though! agreed, mimosas are great! i had a champange brunch the other day at el torito...mmm. i used carlo rossi-sangria. thats the best tasting one. its red, but i used it anyway. the chicken was purple on the outside, and white on the inside. it tasted good. i know im supposed to use white wine, but i thought i would try red... :o i also used it for some beef, came out super good. i threw mushrooms in there, and they had a good flavor. very juicy too. my land lady used carlo rossi-rhine. she said that gives it good flavor. i havent used cooking wine yet, but i dont think i will after hearing the comments posted. ill stick to drinking wine. i like drinking it while im cooking. :dazed: do you guys got any brand names? i like merlot, i dont like white wines too much. i want to try some pinot noir. i like sweet tasting wines, i just dont know the brand that have them. there are so many. thanks folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackSeatBebe Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 wine in spagetti sauce is really nice mmmm....i love beer, tomatoes and mussles boiled together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 yeah, beer is underrated for cooking with. make a beer marinade for steaks, that would be tasty. use a dark beer like newcastle damn. i know what i'm going to do today. experimental marinade making 101! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 best recipie ever! YUM! Whether it's "Chicken on the Throne", "Beer Can Chicken", or "Beer in the Butt Chicken" this technique for cooking is gaining popularity for the tender and juicy chicken it creates. You can do this in your smoker or oven or on the grill. People who try it once seldom go back to other methods of roasting. So what is it? The basic process is to take a half full can of beer with the top cut off. Place it where you are going to be doing the cooking and then place the chicken over it so that the beer can is inside the chicken. Since it's advent, people have begun adding all kinds of spices and extras to the beer to give it more flavor. Generally you will see garlic, cayenne, diced onion, or cumin added, but you can do most anything. So why does this work so well? First of all you are adding a source of moisture to the chicken that keeps it from drying out. Second you are adding beer. Now, more than the fact that beer is good, the yeast and malt in beer react with the chicken, particularly the skin, making it thin and crispy while the meat remains juicy. Garland Rome suggested to my using crab boil, which works really well. Like I said, you can do this regardless of how you plan to cook the chicken. Of course it will turn out differently if you put it on the grill, versus in the smoker, but the basic principles still apply. Cook the chicken as you would normally. Always put something under the chicken like foil or a baking dish to catch the drippings. The biggest problem you might run into is the chicken tipping over. The weight of a half full can of beer just isn't enough to keep the chicken standing, especially if you are doing a large bird. But never fear, your fellow outdoor cooks have recognized the need and a host of products have appeared on the market to help you out. If you look in the "Elsewhere on the Web" section you will find a few variations to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boner Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Re: *believe* Originally posted by WebsterUno do you guys got any brand names? i like merlot, i dont like white wines too much. i want to try some pinot noir. i like sweet tasting wines, i just dont know the brand that have them. there are so many. for red, i suggest any italian chianti... a personal favorite. i've also heard that most french bordeaux's(sp?) are good too. mostly, just keep in mind that you get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 *believe* Originally posted by BackSeatBebe wine in spagetti sauce is really nice mmmm....i love beer, tomatoes and mussles boiled together oh man, i love seafood. musseles are sabroso.... :yum: "beer is underrated for cooking with." beer is underrated. i had a friend make some guiness stew for diversity day at work...damn that stuff was fuckin good! i have some shrimps and beer batter at home. i was going to make some this friday night. my roomate likes it when i get my cook on. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 *believe* Originally posted by <KEY3> best recipie ever! YUM! aha! beer butt chicken! i saw this recipe 2 nights ago. i was looking for a good wine recipe, and stumbled on this.. http://barbeque.allrecipes.com/az/BeerButtChicken.asp the link you provided gives more detail though...thanks! i definatly want to try this. thanks boner, i figured that. but i know you can find something decent for around $10-$20? i aint trying to pop hundred dollar bottles now...heh heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AREANKAY Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 champagne and finlandia vodka. OH YEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boner Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Re: *believe* Originally posted by WebsterUno thanks boner, i figured that. but i know you can find something decent for around $10-$20? i aint trying to pop hundred dollar bottles now...heh heh i found this here http://www.foodandwine.com/invoke.cfm?Obje...2A40002B3309983 10 Great Values 2001 Santa Julia Torrontés ($7) Nobody knows where the aromatic white grape Torrontés originated (best guess: Spain), but in Argentina it produces rich, exotic, jasmine-infused wines like this bargain example. 2000 Hess Select Chardonnay ($11) Hess makes a Napa Chard of all-out exuberance--immensely rich and juicy, brimming with tropical-fruit and just a touch of oak. 2000 Chappellet Dry Chenin Blanc ($12) The neglected Chenin Blanc grape is given star treatment at this well-known Napa winery: Barrel-fermentation shows off luscious fruit and a dry finish. 2001 Villa Maria Private Bin Sauvignon Blanc ($13) New Zealand has gained a passionate following for crisp, citrusy Sauvignon Blancs such as this. 2001 Louis Jadot Saint-Véran Domaine De La Chapelle Aux Loups ($15) This firmly structured single-vineyard wine from the Mâcon region of France is a subdued, elegant, mineral-infused Chardonnay. 1999 Fetzer Valley Oaks Syrah ($9) This Mendocino bottling captures the lush, supple side of California Syrah, with a wonderfully seductive aroma of ripe blackberry-raspberry fruit. 2000 Feudo Monaci Primitivo ($9) A new winery in southern Italy turns out this fruity, lively, medium-bodied Primitivo (a.k.a. Zinfandel). 1998 E. Guigal Côtes-Du-Rhône ($10) Though Guigal is famous for its pricey Côte-Rôties, this well-priced, medium-rich selection warrants a cult following as well. 1999 Vega Sindoa Merlot ($10) Low yields are one of the secrets to this sensationally succulent, very Merlot-y Merlot from Spain's Navarra region. 2000 Marquis Philips Cabernet Sauvignon ($15) This inky and immense wine was created by American importer (and F&W contributing editor) Dan Philips and top Australian winemakers Sarah and Sparky Marquis. also check out this http://www.foodandwine.com/wineguide/pairing/, it lets you find a match for whatever food/wine you may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 I have a whole bunch of shit that i havent tried yet but here are some good shits that i have in the collection that fall in the price range. Mariah Mendocino ridge 1999 Zinfandel Flora Springs Wild Boar Vineyard 1999 Cabernet Sauvignon You should be able to find those at a grocery store. Not a food lion but something a little bit more classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 *believe* thanks guys... im going to hit the store after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AREANKAY Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 i blame 12 oz for tomorrow morning when i wake up. i made my champagne and finlandia podst while at work and well now im home and i have a bottle of cooks and 375 ml bottle of finlandia and do know they will be empty by 9 ocklock, its all this threads fault :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfreshsushi Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 wine reminds me of two things: my father and church. i don't drink or cook, so i'm not really sure why i replied. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T=E=A=S=E Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 wine sucks. always gives me a headache... shits gay anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 *believe* AREANKAY: your welcome! Tease: wine is not gay. beer is too filling, and takes too much to get you crunk. wine does give nasty headaches after, but just take a double dose of aspirin, take a nap, and youll feel like a million bucks. plus, its good for your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AREANKAY Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 UPDATE 20 minutes past my posts gole but non the less shits done. WINE GO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ment2 Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 just get drunk on the wine while you cook, whatever you make will taste great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Originally posted by Devilush a mimosa sounds so good right now. For some reason you seem like a mimosa kind of girl. I don't know what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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