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why people are on our cases . / .

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by TeaMVCali2, Apr 6, 2002.

  1. TeaMVCali2

    TeaMVCali2 New Jack

    Joined: Sep 28, 2000 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    shit like this pisses me off.
    and i am quoting
    "Regardless of what you read at the Art Crimes web site, much of today's graffiti is indeed gang related (turf marking, drug oriented, or hate type) tag graffiti. Travel through any large communities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and even my little town of Pleasant Hill and it becomes quite obvious. Art Crimes is clueless. The number of persons actually interested in painting pretty pictures must be minuscule when compared to the amount of bad talent and gang graffiti out there. The gang vs artist debate is a smoke screen used to placate communities. Graffiti advocates want you to look the other way. The few who are not in gangs don't want you to feel concerned or frightened when a gang moniker or the tag from a violent crew appears on the power pole in front of your home. The graffiti advocate knows if you are concerned about the effects of graffiti, the "graffiti artist" down the street might get extra attention from the police. Tagging crews are a gang of sorts, since they are involved in illegal activity that can include theft of paint and markers from stores, violence against the public and other crews, as well as misdemeanor or felony vandalism. Graffiti vandals are indeed in gangs! Anyone who tells you otherwise is uninformed or is trying to deceive you. "

    --sometimes people are so clueless and pathetic it makes me very sad. Oh well what can you do? Any redneck, whitetrash, whatever, will read this, see me and then shoot me cause he thinks im in the crips or some shit. :eek:


    taken from http://www.dougweb.com/faq.html
     
  2. MiNd OnE

    MiNd OnE New Jack

    Joined: Mar 13, 2002 Messages: 17 Likes Received: 0
    that is some seriously fucked up shit....i wish people would look at the art side of it and say well there are so many artists and gangs are just using it to follow a trend or some shit.....fuck.....why do we always get hated on....:mad: :(
     
  3. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE 12oz Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,577 Likes Received: 2
    that is just funny , what a fuckin retard , it reminds me of the book 'roots' where the whit ppl were so afraid the niggers were gonna revolt ..........we are not a gang , its not even close to gang related , shook ass old white ppl need to just MIND THEY OWN FUCKIN BUSINESS , no harm no foul .
    this just adds to his theory but id like to see that man get beat just for being so fucking dumb .
     
  4. 23578

    23578 12oz Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 2, 2000 Messages: 2,521 Likes Received: 0
    yeah, the other weekend i went to this club which was all graffed up, and when i told them the only reason i was there they were like all mellow and (it seemed) wanted to get me to see the light or something. fuck that bullshit, i'm me and that's who i be.
     
  5. I Luv Roo

    I Luv Roo 12oz Member

    Joined: Aug 20, 2001 Messages: 733 Likes Received: 0
    As long as there is beef, crossing out, and fighting over graffiti related business, those guys have a point. Remove that bullshit all together, and they have no case.

    Most people don't like tags - bottom line. You have to think about all of that when you're out there. Part of the enjoyment is in the rivalry between you and the abatement system.
     
  6. REGULATOR

    REGULATOR 12oz Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 6, 2001 Messages: 3,383 Likes Received: 0
    holy shit i want to sock the mother fucker that wrote that so hard across his clueless fuckin face....hes trying to tell people whats up...if he even knew graffiti he wouldnt even say that....even the fuckin police say that only 10% of graffiti is gang graffiti....that guy is a fuckin retard and i hope he gets jacked by some 13 year old norte claiming fubu kids


    artcrimes is not clueless, YOU ARE!!! according this guy we are all heartless bastards that all go around shooting people for fun!!

    "hey guys, me and aser1ne are gang member graffiti dudes....we gonna do some drivebys for tthe fun of it! who wants to join!!"
     
  7. ~KRYLON2~

    ~KRYLON2~ 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Oct 13, 2001 Messages: 10,443 Likes Received: 191
  8. Revolt

    Revolt Guest

    you can have a click of what ever you want be it graff of fucking gay rights but once you our the crew/click do something against the law and have to go to court if your crew/click is more than 3 people you are conciterd a gang

    well that sums it up
     
  9. REZK one

    REZK one 12oz Junior Member

    Joined: Apr 23, 2002 Messages: 235 Likes Received: 0
    man that is some fuked up shit right there. graffiti is so big that it's not even possible to make generalizations about graffiti. that article only covers the bad part of graffiti which is gang shit and that is like a whole other category that writers aren't even about.
    well i'm gonna go get my 9mm and a can of paint cuz i'm gonna kill people and do gang graffiti, later
     
  10. Ceso One SAF

    Ceso One SAF 12oz Member

    Joined: Mar 29, 2002 Messages: 362 Likes Received: 0
    Graf is somthing noone but writers will ever fully understand.......wow cali has mad gangs and shit but thats 1 state outta 1 country....europe, canada and the rest of the US aint like cali.....with all the gangs and shit so they assume because thier pos pleasant hill town has gangs that tag gay shit for turf rights ....that the rest of the world is like that..most ppl complain about graffiti because they have nothing else to complain about they would complain to the authorites that a bunch of kids are playing football in the local park if football was illegal, just fuck them bitches....socioty will never understand..

    just keep doing your thing and well keep doing ours..they cant stop us
     
  11. ctrl+alt+del

    ctrl+alt+del Guest

    oh douggie, your so funny!:crazy:
     
  12. Apelles

    Apelles 12oz Member

    Joined: Jul 19, 2001 Messages: 619 Likes Received: 0
    With the extremly high number of spelling errors in the replies to this, it's no wonder the general public isn't too concerned with our opinions. And, as someone stated before, as far as the law is concerned, any group of three or more individuals who participate in an unlawful act qualify as a gang. Every single crew out there that has done any illegal work at all is a gang. Of course, they aren't gangs when judged by the popular definition, and that's where good old Dougie boy goes wrong. His problem, being misinformed as he is, seems to be that he cannot determine the difference between a handstyle put up by a writer, and one put up by a gang member. But hey, what do I care? I can't be cited for gang graffiti, I run solo. Beyond that, I really don't give a fuck what the public thinks of what I'm doing. For that matter, I don't really care what any other writers think of what I'm doing. Heh, I guess sometimes it pays not to care.
     
  13. type R

    type R 12oz Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 23, 2001 Messages: 2,456 Likes Received: 1
    not all individuals that are anit-graffiti are "shook ass old white people".
     
  14. BigJohnStudd

    BigJohnStudd 12oz Junior Member

    Joined: Jan 29, 2002 Messages: 193 Likes Received: 0
    Toy Rockers kill it

    People hate graff cause toys hit up on peoples fences and shit like that so when you gotta fork up your own money to clean it up it pisses them off then they wont shut their mouth on how much they hate graff.
     
  15. REZK one

    REZK one 12oz Junior Member

    Joined: Apr 23, 2002 Messages: 235 Likes Received: 0
    i'm thinkin that if people didn't care about graffiti than there would be less bombing and stuff, that's the destructive side of graffiti (i bomb it's just part of graffiti) but if people didn't care about graff than you could take your time and burn walls, instead of quick ass whack shit.
     
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