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Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by I Luv Roo, Apr 15, 2002.

  1. I Luv Roo

    I Luv Roo Member

    Joined: Aug 20, 2001 Messages: 733 Likes Received: 0
    To the SF and Bay Area toys:

    Why the fuck would you go over murals?! Are you jealous of other art or something?

    Maybe times have changed alot, but I though graff was all about adding some flavor to a bland, boring, concrete, and stale environment - NOT destroying other public art where people have worked really hard at beautifying a decrepid and decaying urban landscape. When did painting on public murals become everyone's modus operandi? I've seen it so much lately, and when I passed this one spot it really hit me. I'm not just getting old - people are really getting dumb... and dumber... and dumber.

    Go out and find your own spots you chicken-shits. Or better yet, go back to Pleasant Hill....
    You don't even have the balls to do that, the best you can do is cover murals with your wackass toy throwups - they're not even GOOD!

    New jacks... Okay there are rules. One of them is to not bomb churches. The other is to avoid hitting people's homes. The OTHER ONE IS TO LEAVE PUBLIC ART ALONE. When you paint over murals, even if you think they are ugly, you get everyone one the cop's and city's side. They will work alot harder to strengthen the abatement of graffiti, therefore your stupidity will anger other writers, who will hopefully catch you and kick your ass. I know I would...
  2. jeff123456

    jeff123456 Guest

    if it was a mural on a tatoo shop or something then thats pretty fucking gay but if its a mural on a school or something then ur the fag...
  3. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    ^^^ that made no sense... if yer gonna use words like gay and fag, at least use them consistantly... also, if you went over any of the murals at my tattoo shop, i'd kick yer fucking ass...
  4. ctrl+alt+del

    ctrl+alt+del Guest

    to try to make some sense of what jeff was saying, i am here to translate from incorrect english to somewhat understandable english.

    "If the mural in question was done on a Tattoo shop, then it is horrible what these inexperienced fools have done to it, however, if it was done on a School or such, then you, my friend, are the fool."

    now please folks, i am but a translator, these thoughts are not my own nor are my thoughts reflected in this statement. i am just providing a service to you, the reader.
  5. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,363 Likes Received: 299
    I don't think Roo could be a fag.
  6. expansionAE

    expansionAE Guest


    i dont really know man.. i cant say anything. i aint from there
  7. ctrl+alt+del

    ctrl+alt+del Guest

    Re: hmm...

    pure pointless crap.

    when i first read roo's post, i thought he was talking about graff murals, but he must mean all public legal murals. what are your thoughts on murals done on underpasses as a means to deter graff from that wall? it seams to work in my city, i dont bother with that stuff. its all organized by community centers and they have little 7 year olds down their painting their funny pictures. i dont like the thought of a mural to stop graff, but im not gonna mess some little kids picture up, i think its cool, there expressing themselves just like me.

    JAWSHONE New Jack

    Joined: Jan 27, 2001 Messages: 96 Likes Received: 0
    this post sucks. but i understand.
    there are clearly two sides to this story.

    one in support of public art that is probably city funded and the other is in support of wrecking every thing, including a city paid mural.

    i say if the shit sucks, go over it.
    key example: in the early early 90s in Justin Herman Plaza in San Francisco's Embarcadero, Bono, from the world famous band U2, took a red spray paint can and on this ugly public fountain painted the word BONO. Now that dude had the right idea. The fountain is ugly. The fountain was city funded. The fountain should be blown up. case closed.

    I think it really depends on what is actually being painted over.
    Just like the usual scenario of a tag gets gone over with a piece. And someone shouldn't really paint over someone if they are worse.
    If you can do it better, do it.

    Blee blah blah bloo blah. www.hifiart.com

    REGULATOR Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 6, 2001 Messages: 3,383 Likes Received: 0
    ahhaah anyone see those murals downtown that were bombed the fuck out of by geso and some other heads...that was pretty cool
  10. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    im awesome , i dont go over murals . except with tags ...............
  11. I Luv Roo

    I Luv Roo Member

    Joined: Aug 20, 2001 Messages: 733 Likes Received: 0
    The particular murals I'm specifically referring to are actually, in my opinion, not that great, and they may have been getting tagged over and over for years. But the most recent toy shit on top of it was wack as fuck. Also my point is that these new jacks who wanna bomb and get ups and all that try too fucking hard, but they're also too chicken-shit to go out and creatively find good spots for themselves.

    Even underpass murals are better than just a grey wall. Someone, who ever it was, put their time and energy into at least trying to make it nice (even if they aren't very successful)...

    I bet those toys would hunt me down if I did so much as cross out one itty bitty tag of theirs.

    graff is so full of hypocrisy.
  12. Nigger Art

    Nigger Art New Jack

    Joined: Mar 5, 2001 Messages: 30 Likes Received: 0
    fuck all murals. if the person who painted is dead, then I can see a reason to riff. But Most every mural sucks, and I had thousands of things gone over, who the fuck cares if some lame muralist gets their shit gone over. because it is a mural doesnt make it any better than graff.

    look how dope the gkae over that mural in LA was.

    "I Luv Roo" probably had a hand in some gay mural and now has his feelings hurt because it got ragged..

    How come SF has all those shitty mexican murals that look exactly the same all over the fucking place. The best part is that they were done by a jew who married a mexican to get a last name that was ok with "la Raza"...

    boo hoo
  13. KASTsystem

    KASTsystem Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2001 Messages: 832 Likes Received: 0
    i could quote almost everyone in this thread and say they are wrong, but I'll just stick with this post to keep it short...

    How can you say "fuck all murals...most murals suck"?
    You may think most murals suck, but a lot of people (including graffiti writers and civilians) would say that most graff sucks.
    Graff breaks up the overall community and alienates people. (Don't say it doesn't because the majority of the graffiti audience are graffiti writers and vandal squad, not the community). Graffiti is usually done in neighborhoods that have too many problems to deal with something little like graffiti. Why don't you go fuck up rich neighborhoods that can afford to do something about it? Cause you know you'll get caught quicker and you're shit will get buffed.

    Meanwhile, these murals are done by organized community members. There is a message, a sense of community, and a broader audience than graffiti has. If you have a problem with that, maybe you should try to open up your mind to things outside of your narrow graffiti "sub-culture."

    Sure, a lot of the murals suck, but if you think you can do better, than why don't you organize a mural on a different wall and then paint a better mural. There is no reason to paint your shitty (or good) graffiti over someone else's mural. There is not a shortage of walls. And if you object to doing a legal mural or using brush paint, then rock an illegal burner nearby that steals all the attention from the mural. You don't have to destroy someone else's shit in order to make the point that you are better. You can prove that in other ways if it's that important for you to prove.

    Obviously, you may make exceptions to stamp out political or propaganda-filled messages and other personally objectionable murals. I'm just saying to try using discretion and keep an open mind. Don't just go over a mural because you don't appreciate it's asthetic value or because it's "not graffiti." That's lame, fucko.
  14. Nigger Art

    Nigger Art New Jack

    Joined: Mar 5, 2001 Messages: 30 Likes Received: 0

    Go hug a tree with this hands across america lecture.
  15. CAPS

    CAPS Member

    Joined: Oct 23, 2001 Messages: 658 Likes Received: 0
    FOR REAL...... we beat the shit out of a kid cause he pen tagged our tat shop. It wouldn't have been so bad but he put it right on our front door. Punk ass bitch.

    Oh yeah..... your gay and a fag consistently.......... hahhaha

    CAPS..... I love to tat2 my nuts.