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What ever happened to...

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by Jewish Task Force, Jul 25, 2002.

  1. Jewish Task Force

    Jewish Task Force Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 6, 2001 Messages: 1,626 Likes Received: 2
    What ever happened to finding shit out on your own? When I first started writing there was no internet, there were no magaiznes, there were no mailorder or walk in shops for graff shit. I mean, I had more fun trying new pens, inks, paints, etc. than actually doing the graff. now you have all these kids coming on here and asking questions, ordering pre packaged graffiti shit, reading mags(no disrespect to mags), and reading books(no diss either). I didnt find out about any books or videos until I had been writing for about 5 years. Its great that kids are getting into graff because of these things, dont get me wrong, but I mean cmon, find out about shit on yur own, please. It just makes you love and appreciate graffiti just that much more. Just dont ask dumb questions, if you are wondering how something works or how to make something, try it. Hey, who knows, in the process you might learn something new. It seems like that integral part of graffiti is going away.

    On a side note: If you have all the best markers, paints, caps, inks, etc. It doesnt make you a better writer. You cant buy skill. You still have to put in work and do graffiti. That is the only thing that will make you better. Dedication, time, skill and a love for what you are doing.
     
  2. SE4_2002

    SE4_2002 Guest

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    Well put...What annoy`s me is kids that think it`s a cool thing to do so they pick a tin up paint for a year then give up, I blame these kiddie`s for the state of London Bridge trax, diaFUCKINbolical..Another thing that annoy`s me is when they keep using the word"GRAFFIN" makes me cringe every time I hear it!
     
  3. catwash

    catwash Guest

    just youngsters trying to look bad amongst their bad friends, going out with a tin of flouro montana and making the area look like shit. What makes them go for the flourescent colours? Is it the same everywhere?

    And 'graffin', don't even get me started... untuck your fucking tracksuit and wear your fucking cap properly!
     
  4. Jewish Task Force

    Jewish Task Force Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 6, 2001 Messages: 1,626 Likes Received: 2
  5. imported_b0b

    imported_b0b Guest

    I think the trouble with the "pre-packaged" graf stuff is that it allows people to dabble in graf more easily, whereas before it was a lot harder to find stuff out and you had to be a lot more commited and inquisative (sp?). Due to the dabbling being easier people stop after a short while, whereas before they would still be on the learning curve.
     
  6. sneak

    sneak Guest

    so fucking true. u from the uk? cos i didnt think the dicks with their tracksuits tucked into their socks and caps at shit angles had spread over seas
     
  7. catwash

    catwash Guest

    yep i'm uk. dunno if the tracksuits have spread yet but it's only a matter of time!
     
  8. Are2

    Are2 Guest

    JTF

    i agree..it has gotten ridiculous
    it seems as though the information age has taken all the hard work, and fun, out of learning things for yourself..

    but as far as how all that applies to graf, i still belief that all this discussion, all the flicks and sketches and feedback still cannot be a substitute for true skill and dedication

    the inherent risks in graffiti will hopefully keep the respect in the hands of the talented and determined
    the internet has no street credibility

    and all of the 'real' writers know that..
     
  9. sneak

    sneak Guest

    why do they think they look good like that????
     
  10. .R.

    .R. Junior Member

    Joined: Jun 17, 2002 Messages: 232 Likes Received: 0
    Definitly, finding shit out for yourself makes it all worthwhile, the feeling you get when u no you did somethin without anyones help is dope,
     
  11. hbg

    hbg New Jack

    Joined: Jun 9, 2001 Messages: 50 Likes Received: 1
    that is exactly true . there is something about toys and flourescent colors
     
  12. Jewish Task Force

    Jewish Task Force Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 6, 2001 Messages: 1,626 Likes Received: 2
  13. space

    space Member

    Joined: May 17, 2002 Messages: 320 Likes Received: 0
    yea its good to learn on yer own... definitely would speed up yer progress tho if you had ppl to learn from. sometimes its easier with others pushin you to get to that next level.
     
  14. socrates

    socrates Guest

    Does anyone remember high school when there used not be as many out for fame writers and there was like one big ass crew that was based off drinking and partying and then would go out and paint, that was the best.
     
  15. Jewish Task Force

    Jewish Task Force Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 6, 2001 Messages: 1,626 Likes Received: 2
    Well, those people you learn from should be your freinds that you are coming up with or older, wiser writers. Not people on the internet.
     
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