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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by ubejinxed, Jul 22, 2004.

  1. ubejinxed

    ubejinxed Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 7,543 Likes Received: 3
    hey hi..

    i was wondering if any of you knew about the different types of welding and which metals and applications they best suit.

    when i move i'm going to convert my mom's garage into a metal shop for furniture making. so i took a welding class a while ago and used two different types of welders the oxyacetylene welding/gas torch and a mig welder.

    so i did some research about both arc welding and mig welding and found they are essentially the same thing but the mig is more sophisticated since it uses a continously fed rod, you don't have to stop and i think you can weld more metals than just steel.

    i was just wondering if any of you have done extensive welding and know whether the much larger cost of the mig welder is worth it? i'm thinking it might be, but would love someones perspective on the different types of welding apparatus.

    i'm going to be making furniture so the finished product will need to be usable and durable.

    and also in case anyone tells me i'm going hurt myself if i don't learn more, i'm going to take another class before i set everything up.

    k thanx
  2. 2 blaazed

    2 blaazed New Jack

    Joined: Jun 28, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 3
  3. ubejinxed

    ubejinxed Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 7,543 Likes Received: 3
    there were other posts b4... ?
  4. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    wtf, g?!

    actually, i know raven got the new servers. probably a complication with that.
  5. Milton

    Milton Senior Member

    Joined: May 21, 2003 Messages: 2,253 Likes Received: 0
    Hey hi,

    It depends on what type of material you use for the welds. If you're welding iron, you can use either an arc welder or a mig welder, you just need iron welding rods. The only thing I can think of is I'm pretty sure you can't weld the softer metals like aluminum with a gas welder because of the heat involved. But a mig welder uses an electrical current to weld so I think you have to use that with some aluminum rod. It's been many many years so I'm not sure if this is right...
  6. HUH?

    HUH? New Jack

    Joined: Aug 21, 2002 Messages: 36 Likes Received: 0
    i am a welder. to answer your question.

    ok a mig welder uses constant fed wire to deposit the weld metal and make the weld.it is very easy to learn once you set the wire speed and heat settings right.stick welding or arc welding takes more skill to learn as the rod burns you manually feed the rod by pushing somewhat.if you are making furniture you will probobly be usung square tubing.tubing has thin walls so a mig would probobly be your best choice.

    mig welding also can be used for aluminium and stainless steel welding.you however must buy aluminium wire or stainless wire to weld these metals.ask away i am probobly the most knowledgable person on this board for welding info.
  7. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    i'm going to ask my uncle to show me how to use the oxygen acetylene welder tomorrow
  8. HUH?

    HUH? New Jack

    Joined: Aug 21, 2002 Messages: 36 Likes Received: 0
    oxyacetylene welding is a lost art.but it is pretty cool.
  9. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

    Joined: Oct 6, 2004 Messages: 19,229 Likes Received: 30
    Smithington to the EXTRREME

    BUCK FUSH Member

    Joined: Apr 10, 2003 Messages: 699 Likes Received: 0
    i worked for a steel sculpture last summer and picked up a bit about welding.

    we built a 2 ton sculpture stainless steel fish and used stainless steel stick welding for the most part because it is stronger than mig if done correctly and is capable of creating wider beads. we used mig with stainless steel wire for smaller detail stuff, but the wire was constantly getting caught and it was usually a big headache. MIg may be easier for you, depending on the size of stuff your doing and the metal your welding.

    beyond welders, youll need other supplies like drills, pads, bits etc. the guy i worked with bought all of his stuff off of ebay and said he sazed insane amounts of money, especially on the smaller stuff like pads and bits. i dont claim to be the know all end all, but i can contact my boss if you have any specific questions. hit me up on email or IM [email protected]

  11. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    stick welding's fun, but i find it to be too much of a hassle if i'm gonna be working more than an hour or so...
    i'd say if you can afford to get a MIG kit, then do it...
  12. InnerCityRebel

    InnerCityRebel Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 19, 2002 Messages: 8,297 Likes Received: 117
    i have actually been thinking about looking into taking a welding class.
  13. HUH?

    HUH? New Jack

    Joined: Aug 21, 2002 Messages: 36 Likes Received: 0

    BUCK FUSH Member

    Joined: Apr 10, 2003 Messages: 699 Likes Received: 0
    ^^it got me into college
  15. why write?

    why write? Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2003 Messages: 5,859 Likes Received: 1