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USA Guilty of War Crimes

Discussion in 'News' started by !@#$%, Feb 18, 2005.

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    USA Guilty of War Crimes

    Discussion started by !@#$% - Feb 18, 2005

    http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/200...d_journal9.html
    http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cf...=15&ItemID=6772


    The United States is using napalm in Falluja. So far, the military has denied the allegations, but the proof is mounting. On Nov. 28 The Daily Mirror’s political editor, Paul Gilfeather filed a report stating: “US troops are secretly using outlawed napalm gas to wipe out remaining insurgents in and around Fallujah. News that President George W. Bush has sanctioned the use of napalm, a deadly cocktail of polystyrene and jet fuel banned by the United Nations in 1980, will stun governments around the world.”

    For over a week rumors have circulated in the Arab press that both napalm and other chemical weapons were used mainly in the Jolan district of Falluja, a major area of the fighting. Now, despite a US media blackout, more evidence is leaking out and causing a furor in the British Parliament. As Gilfeather reports: “Last night Tony Blair was dragged into the row as furious Labour MPs demanded he face the Commons over it. Reports claim that innocent civilians have died in napalm attacks, which turn victims into human fireballs as the gel bonds flames to flesh.”

    ..The US has already admitted that it used napalm during the siege of Baghdad. The truth was reluctantly confirmed by the Pentagon after news reports corroborated the evidence. The military has tried to conceal the truth by saying that there is a distinction between its new weapon and “traditional napalm”. The “improved” product carries the Pentagon moniker “Mark 77 firebombs” and uses jet fuel to “decrease environmental damage”. The fact that military planner’s even considered “environmental damage” while developing the tools for incinerating human beings, gives us some insight into the deep vein of cynicism that permeates their ranks.


    we are becoming what we are supposedly trying to destroy
    fucking tyrranical.
    http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fior...5/02/intel.html
     
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    I understand that Bush is too FUCKING STUPID to realize that he creates more terrorists than he destroys.

    But what's 50% of this country's fucking excuse?
     
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    I don't agree one bit w/ what is going on over there in Iraq / Cuba... I have fam over there. I think it is wrong for us to torture captives, it does nothing but increse the dangers for all Americans. With that said, there is no country in this world that could hold the United States accountable for it's actions. China may come close becuase they own so much of our dept, but I don't think this administration would hesitate to drop a couple of nukes on H.K./ mainland CH. After all the poor chinese our are new slaves. If the American people were faced w/ a destroyed economy or destroying a country I think this fine christian country of ours would choose the latter.
     
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    dojafx - Replied Feb 18, 2005

    anyone have any major news sources on the use of napalm in iraq?
     
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    uh why? the pentagon admitting it isn't good enough proof huh?
     
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    POIESIS - Replied Feb 18, 2005

    it's called 'emotionally potent oversimplification'..
    as you know, it was used by the admin with some success.
    this is what happens when there is a long history
    of an avid and conscious campaign to indoctrinate
    and marginalize democratic countries populations.
    would you be surprised to know that there is a history
    of leading psychiatrists having top secret security
    clearances?
     
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    I didnt know napalm was banned, its kinda hard to play by the rules when the people you are fighting play by no rules whatsoever.
     
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    dojafx - Replied Feb 18, 2005

    ^I'm not sure what you expect them to do?
    Dudes dont have tanks, they dont have fighter planes, they dont have cruise missles
    Its kind of hard to play by the rules when you're a group of unorganized muhfuckas with small arms going up against the worlds foremost superpower
     
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    uh why? the pentagon admitting it isn't good enough proof huh?
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    because if i'm telling someone about this and they ask me where i heard about it, an anarchist rag doesnt seem as credible as reuters, the ap or the bbc
     
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    zmag is the shit. i used to read it all the time
    at my library a couple years ago. check it if you
    can, it's packed to the tittles.
     
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    because if i'm telling someone about this and they ask me where i heard about it, an anarchist rag doesnt seem as credible as reuters, the ap or the bbc
    [post=3839819]Quoted post[/post]​
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    Mother Jones, The Daily Mirror, and The Independant are all credible media outlets.
     
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    CACashRefund - Replied Feb 19, 2005

    The insurgents in Iraq are by no means unorganized, theyre trained, resourceful, and clever fucks. And people shouldnt be surprised if America decides to use any means at its disposal in an attempt to neutralize them.
     
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    The insurgents in Iraq are by no means unorganized, theyre trained, resourceful, and clever fucks. And people shouldnt be surprised if America decides to use any means at its disposal in an attempt to neutralize them.
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    This logic throws out nuclear proliferation agreements, the Geneva convention, the entirety of the U.N and all laws and agreements made within...you have no scope or rational perspective...

    The insurgents in Iraq are by no means unorganized, theyre trained, resourceful, and clever fucks.

    -Than what the hell are we?
     
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    CACashRefund - Replied Feb 19, 2005

    I dont know you tell me, since i was only referring to dojafx's comment on the insurgents.
     
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