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"Upon the Gears of the War Machine"...

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by vinyl junkie, Oct 12, 2002.

  1. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    a buddy of mine was involved in the protest at the federal building in san fransisco... I just got this e mail from him...

    "On Thursday, the day after Congress voted to authorize the use of force to invade Iraq. That day about 200-300 people marched to the federal building in San Francisco. More people gathered throughout the night as we camped out in front of the federal building. By morning there were about 500 of us. At 7am we blockaded all enterances into the building. We shut it down! People went home and the machine was interupted for one day.
    My affinity group duct taped our arms together and blocked the cars from entering the parking garage. These are some photos of the way that our wonderfull police force treats peacefull protesters."

    http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_die_in_blocks_ramp.jpg'> [b]10/10 – 10/11/02
    San Francisco Federal Building,
    Stop The War Protest & Blockade.
    Non-violent civil disobedience protesting Congressional vote authorizing U.S. State Terrorism.
    Photos focus on Blockade at Federal Building's Parking Garage ramp.
    Protesters blocked the Fed. Building Parking Garage for close to 4 hours.

    Federal Cops and Security Guards made repeated violent attempts at breaking the line but eventually gave up trying.
    Federal Cops gave security guards clubs.
    (Are Federal Security guards trained/authorized to use those?)
    One security guard walked up to a protester and without warning started choking him.
    (See photo of “Choker” below)
    Later, when confronted with his actions, "Choker" said:
    "He pushed me."
    A lie.
    The protester he choked had his wrist duct taped to the wrists of those standing on either side of him.

    Over 40 were arrested for civil disobedience at other entrances to the building. Only one at the Parking Garage entrance. I guess these guys preferred just to shove, beat, and choke people instead of making arrests.

    More about the Federal Building action:
    [url=http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/1535750.php]http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/1535750.php[/url]

    [/b]


    [b]WAR usually works both ways[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_wrks_both_ways_sign.jpg'>

    [b]War usually works both ways sign[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_wrks_both_ways_sign2.jpg'>

    [b]Blockade[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_line_blocks_ramp.jpg'>

    [b]Who's the Rogue Nation Now?[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_rogue_nation_sign.jpg'>

    [b]Police Violence 1[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_1.jpg'>

    [b]Police Violence 2
    [/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_2.jpg'>

    [b]Police Violence 3[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_3.jpg'>

    [b]Police Violence 4[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_4.jpg'>

    [b]Police Violence 5[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_5.jpg'>

    [b]Police Violence 6, No Blood for Oil[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_6.jpg'>

    [b]The Choker[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_choker_security_guard.jpg'>
    [b]This the the Choker,
    Federal security guard walked up to a protester and without warning started choking him.

    Later, when confronted with his actions, "Choker" said:
    "He pushed me."
    A lie.
    The protester he choked had his wrist duct taped to the wrists of those standing on either side of him.

    [/b]

    [b]Security Guards Given Clubs.[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_security_guard_w_club.jpg'>
    [b]Federal Cops and Security Guards made repeated violent attempts at breaking the line but eventually gave up trying.
    Federal Cops gave security guards clubs.
    (Are Federal Security guards trained/authorized to use those?)

    [/b]

    [b]Blockade Holds.[/b]
    [img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_blockade_holds.jpg'>


    these are all posted at [url=http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/1535860.php]http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/1535860.php[/url] and there's more information on it there too...

    [i]photos and werds by b. marsh...[/i]
     
  2. GLIK$

    GLIK$ Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 23, 2002 Messages: 22,277 Likes Received: 117
    i seriously wish that the cops could just open up fire and mow them down, those would have been better pictures.
     
  3. krie

    krie Guest

  4. Weapon X

    Weapon X 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Sep 6, 2002 Messages: 14,905 Likes Received: 202
    worst thread EVER!
     
  5. toyeattoywar

    toyeattoywar Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2002 Messages: 829 Likes Received: 1
    although those would be good action shots, and good displays of how oppresive our country is when they say we have the right to assemble i must dissagree. i have friends that were shot in the face at close range by cops with rubber bullets its not a pretty picture on film although i couldnt see it myself because i was on my way to the hospital that day with facial lacerations thanks to the fine riot police of the united states of america. cops also enjoy snapping peoples wrists so they break and electrocuting them with tasers. i got to attend to a friend wounds that was electrocuted with a police taser for 30-40 seconds 3 times in a row after they shot him in the face with 5 or 6 pepper pellots (they are like paint balls except they close your throat and send your senses into shock). the tasers dont do nice things to your skin (more remeniscent of cooked flesh, not fried suprisingly enough more baked after the skin starts to blister and peel). there was a guy that was shot in the throat with a rubber bullet a couple years back and now he needs an electrical box to talk for the rest of his life, for peacefully demonstarting no less. and who can forget when the fbi decided to pipebomb earthfirst activists in their car in attempts to frame them. the fbi just recently lost that case. carlos guliani was shot in the head by a police officer in the streets of italy at a g8 demonstration, although he was about to partake in violence of a police vehicle does that deserve a bullet in the head? whats the difference between breaking a window on a police van and vandalising a wall, he had the balls to actually go after the cop van? what about around two months ago when police used oc (military grade tear gas) on grandmothers in wheelchairs and babies in strollers? then they proceeded to heard everybody together in a nice view of george bush's hotel suite so he could watch it all go down and see u$a's finest beat and gas children, teenagers, adults and elderly because they attempted to partake in nonviolent, peaceful dissent (our "rights" as americans dont ya know). or the approximately 700 people that were arrested in the streets of dc two weeks ago before they even started to participate in demonstrating. i saw kids arrested there for walking down the street, preemptive strike i think the government called it. of course its for the people of dcs safety, to protect them from these nonviolent citizens that dont think its okay to put nonwhite countries to the point of less than poverty, make it so they have to spend 3/4 of their paycheck if they want to bath and have water to drink. yeah, standing up for people like that is just straight up unamerican. teh. what about the people that were hospitalized in dc a couple of weeks ago for peacefully demonstrating against the thousands upon thousands of people we have killed over oil by lying down in freedom plaza just to have riot cops beat their faces with batons before attempting to move them.
    i cant say i understand why you dont support those kids in sf putting their bodies on the line for people that cant because they already did. i personally stand in solidarity with them, although i will say that i support you in that decision because its your constitutional right to have your own opinion. it seems people that give a shit these days have been stripped of that right though.
    "when i saw the dead and dying children in afghanistan, i felt a newly recoverd sense of national security." -katie sierra
     
  6. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    this is by no means supposed to be something miraculous... and yes, it could have been a lot worse... i've been tased, maced, pepper sprayed, and beaten... it sucks... i think that's why i posted this... none of that happened... they got knocked down, but no one got hurt... and they actually succeeded in their goals, if only for a few hours...
     
  7. Esai

    Esai Member

    Joined: Oct 12, 2001 Messages: 612 Likes Received: 1
    Ive gotten the Shit kicked out of me by cops, and I wasnt protesting nothin, just walkin down the street. But I do support those peoples' freedom to speak and assemble.
     
  8. I don't know, dude, they look like they're being pretty gentle in those pictures. No motion blur = no violent movement. Beer,

    El Mamerro
     
  9. angry xbox

    angry xbox Guest

    you little shit is it neccassary for you to demonstrate your young age of 13 to all of us??? one day they will knock down your door and shove an M4 carbine in your grill and when you protest going along to the concentration camp i hope they shoot you execution style right then and there.
     
  10. B_As_In_Bot

    B_As_In_Bot Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 7, 2000 Messages: 3,840 Likes Received: 11
    There is such a thing called an 'Shutter-Speed', my friend.
     
  11. Indeed there is...

    http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nowar_sf_fed_101102_copviolence_5.jpg'>

    ... but as you can see on the left, there [i]is[/i] some motion blur, while the cops don't have any, so shutter speed isn't the case here. The Choker also looks pretty blurry, and that's a still picture. Beer,

    El Mamerro
     
  12. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    again:

     
  13. socrates

    socrates Guest

    Is there a picture of the choking or just talk about it
     
  14. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    that's all the pics i know of... i didn't take any of the pictures or do any of the writing...
     
  15. angry xbox

    angry xbox Guest

    i hate my job really retail is gay and fucking working christmas
     
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