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U.S. Military Draft. Canada, higher education no longer an option.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by (no subject), Apr 15, 2004.

  1. (no subject)

    (no subject) Junior Member

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    http://www.vancouver.indymedia.org/news/20...4/01/105146.php


    US Preparing for Military Draft in Spring 2005
    by Adam Stutz • Wednesday January 28, 2004 at 09:50 AM


    The current agenda of the US federal government is to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism." Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election!

    Reinstatement of the draft

    Dear Friends and Family,

    I urge you to read the article below on the current agenda of the federal government to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism."

    Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election! But the administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed NOW, so our action is needed immediately. Details and links follow.

    If voters who currently support U.S. aggression abroad were confronted with the possibility that their own children or grandchildren might not have a say about whether to fight, many of these same voters might have a change of mind. (Not that it should make a difference, but this plan would among other things eliminate higher education as a shelter and would not exclude women -- and Canada is no longer an option.)

    Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let your children know -- it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! Please also write to your representatives to ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills -- and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

    The Draft*

    $28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the SSS Annual Performance Plan - Fiscal Year 2004.

    The Pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of Congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/a...article5146.htm

    Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and H.R. 163 forward this year, entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the Committee on Armed Services.

    Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era remember. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the US signed a "Smart Border Declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's Minister of Foreign Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland Security Director, Gov. Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their cur-rent semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

    *This article by Adam Stutz is from the "What's Hot Off the Press" column of the newsletter of Project Censored, a media research group at Sonoma State University that tracks the news published in independent journals and newsletters. From these, Project Censored compiles an annual list (more than 20 years running) of 25 news stories of social significance that have been overlooked, under-reported, or self-censored by the country's major national news media. The mission of Project Censored is "to educate people about the role of independent journalism in a democratic society and to tell The News That Didn't Make the News and why."



    Sorry if this has been posted.
     
  2. gfreshsushi

    gfreshsushi Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 21, 2003 Messages: 2,244 Likes Received: 1
    not only has it been posted, but the guy who presented the bill to the house originally is a democrat, who proposed it with the simple intention of making the american public realize that to maintain an eternal war on terror, we wouold have to reinstate the draft.

    meh, still good info though.
     
  3. Dr. Dazzle

    Dr. Dazzle Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 19, 2001 Messages: 8,147 Likes Received: 3
    Hahahaha! Nice try you fuckers!
     
  4. GucciCondom

    GucciCondom Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 29, 2003 Messages: 5,558 Likes Received: 168
    No way in fucking shit fuck would someone ever make me be in the military.
     
  5. GLIK$

    GLIK$ Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 23, 2002 Messages: 22,277 Likes Received: 117
    I swear to god if I'm anywhere near a camel spider...
     
  6. gfreshsushi

    gfreshsushi Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 21, 2003 Messages: 2,244 Likes Received: 1
    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  7. Zack Morris

    Zack Morris Veteran Member

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    hmm...looks like time for me to do some research about how to get out of this. I DO NOT support us being in iraq, and I do not feel that I should fight for something I do not suport. I bet I could easily be deemed not mentally fit for the military or I could just tell them I'm gay.

    There is also plan B...and europeans going to need a room-mate next year?
     
  8. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    why isn't this in the news?
     
  9. ctrl+alt+del

    ctrl+alt+del Guest

    ill put money down that this never happens.
     
  10. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    yeah, i think this is a bit of a misrepresentation of the facts. i know that bush has ordered the selective service to be opperational by 2005, BUT, i have heard nothing about them actually stating that they wanted to reinstate the draft. i think is tracing the parallel and pretending its concrete, which is understandable, but it's also presently false.
    just because they want selective service to be up to date, does not mean that they will begin with the draft. infact, reinstating the draft would be electoral suicide. people are already drawing enough comparisons to vietnam, if we reinstate the draft, it will explode in their face.

    read my lips, 'not gonnn happen, it's bad, bad!'

    that was my e-dana carvey.

    really though, polls already show that if the election were tomorrow, kerry would beat bush by 7percent, if bush was to try and reinstate the draft, he would be crushed.
     
  11. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    you know what the dumbest part of that is....
    not allowing 'potential draft dodgers entry into canada'?

    If that gets to be the case, dont you think you could apply for refugee status?

    I want entry into your country because my life is in danger at home.
    That's the general rule for being a 'fugee'. I dont see why it couldnt apply here.
     
  12. Weapon X

    Weapon X 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Sep 6, 2002 Messages: 14,905 Likes Received: 202
    http://www.danacarvey.net/images/bush.jpg'>

    "Wouldn't be prudent."
     
  13. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    luckily, i'm a stones throw (literally) from canada. if i get refused entry, i can literally take a rubber raft over there.
    there's also a train tunnel ;) i can just hop a freight into canada.
     
  14. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    ^ and that got rid of that old 'flirt with the sargent' excuse too.
     
  15. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    being a junkie has still got to be a viable out though.
    my mom told me a bunch of stories about alot of their friends shooting up with water, just so they had crazy track marks and could get out of it.
    what year did vietnam end? 73?
     
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