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"two movies in one thread"..dont read unless youve seen troy...

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by atrocks, May 18, 2004.

  1. atrocks

    atrocks New Jack

    Joined: Nov 25, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    ok i saw that movie troy the other day adn it was pretty good....i felt it was soemwhere alogn the liens of gladiator...although the main characters had less dialogue than the oens in gladiator...the action was good...but that hectors brother shouldve kept fighting lil bitch...he was such a puss bag...hahahah he ran to back to hang on to his big brothers feet....i was laughing...it sucks how everyoen at the end gets fucked over except for that lil pussy and his homewreckin girlfriend...

    ooo and i also saw that movie the last samurai finally...it was a good movie...but didnt the plot kind of remind u of dances with wolves...and uuh....damn...theres another movie like this thant i cant remmber the naem of...but yeah...these movies are god and all but isnt it wierd hwo the movei is "supposed" to be about soem dissappearing race of people but the persont hat gets the most movie time is the white man that is trying so despeartely to save them by becoming one of them and even taking one of their women as his woman...i dotn knwo...just soem random thoughts before my next class starts....
  2. firsttake

    firsttake Member

    Joined: Feb 10, 2003 Messages: 411 Likes Received: 0
    i saw Troy last friday. i thought it didnt do the story justice for shit. paris was under-developed, as was odysius. never saw that other shit though...
  3. WebsterUno

    WebsterUno Guest


    i havent seen troy,
    but i watched the
    story behind it on tdc
    last week. i also
    learned about mythology
    back in grade shool.
    paris is a pussy because
    he is cupid! (love not war!)
    homewreckin girlfriend..haha.
    she was forced to marry
    the guy she was with before
    paris took her. paris saved her.
    from what i heard,
    helen got the ill nah nah.
    my homie said its a good flick.

    last samurai looks kinda weak.
  4. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 21, 2003 Messages: 3,575 Likes Received: 0
    I might see it.
  5. DETO

    DETO Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 25, 2002 Messages: 11,348 Likes Received: 154
    imma go see Shrek 2 tomorrow.
  6. atrocks

    atrocks New Jack

    Joined: Nov 25, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    :lol: :lol: thanks for the thought cilone...but im just typing faster than i can legibly(sp?) spell....i see those errors but i figure its obvious enough to read so i dont bother fixin em....or maybe u really are on to something....

    that paris being cupid was cool...never woulda thought of that....there was another movie i had seen that had the saem plot as troy...i forget which though....
  7. Fugazi

    Fugazi Senior Member

    Joined: Dec 17, 2001 Messages: 1,298 Likes Received: 1
    You're right... that movie was terrible.

    1. Roger Ebert in the Chicago Sun-Times writes, "Homer's estate should sue. The movie sidesteps the existence of the Greek gods, turns its heroes into action movie clich├ęs and demonstrates that we're getting tired of computer-generated armies."

    2. Ty Burr in the Boston Globe minces few words as he lays into "this surprisingly lumbering $200-million disappointment."

    3. John Anderson in Newsday describes it as "a big slab of cheese."

    4. But what most of the critics particularly object to are the performances of the three male leads. "The worst casting in recent Hollywood history," comments Jonathan Foreman in the New York Post.

    5. Michael Sragow in the Baltimore Sun describes the casting as going "woefully awry."

    6. More fun comments by Ebert: So dramatic is that development that the movie shows perhaps 100,000 men in hand-to-hand combat, and then completely forgets them in order to focus on the Patroclus battle scene, with everybody standing around like during a fight on the playground.

    7. "...while "Troy" provides dialogue that probably cannot be delivered well because it would sound even sillier that way."
  8. atrocks

    atrocks New Jack

    Joined: Nov 25, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    :lol: its funny because its true....but ya gotta admit that achiles sure can stab/drag the shit outa guy....
  9. Dr. Dazzle

    Dr. Dazzle Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 19, 2001 Messages: 8,147 Likes Received: 3
    Am I the only one who can forsee the crapiness of movies by the previews? I don't need to waste $15 to know when a movie will suck ass.....
  10. Fuck everyone. The movie rocked. As a film version of the Iliad, it sucks, so don't go watch it for that.

    Watch it for:

    -Ill one-on-one fights, especially Hector vs. Achilles

    -Amazing camerawork

    -I don't care what the critics say, Eric Bana, Peter O'Toole, and Brian Cox deliver great performances.

    -Helen's hotness.
  11. WebsterUno

    WebsterUno Guest

    who is that girl?
    she is playing the
    finest girl in the
    world, and she is pretty.

    the show i was watching
    last week had clips from the
    film. that fight scene
    with achilles looked ill.
    i like the jump-downthrust-stab
    move he pulls off.

    i heard they dont show much of the
    gods in this either. that sucks.
  12. CinchedWaist

    CinchedWaist Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 11, 2003 Messages: 2,691 Likes Received: 1
    i did a paper on helen of troy in 6th grade.
    actually main reason i want to see the movie.
    and because i was obsessed with greek myths.
    otherwise i prob wouldn't be going...if it wasn't for brad and orlando.
  13. yoink

    yoink Elite Member

    Joined: May 27, 2002 Messages: 3,428 Likes Received: 0
    My girlfriend and her little sister are goin to kill me if I dont take them, its supposedly their payback for all the movies Ive ever taken them to. Either way Im not too excited. Mams may have some points, but as soon as I saw the trailers I didnt have the reaction of going.

    yeah I have heard that girl is on the super fine scale.
  14. CinchedWaist

    CinchedWaist Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 11, 2003 Messages: 2,691 Likes Received: 1
  15. Like I said before, the opening battle, where Achilles fights some enormous dude and completely ruins his shit in two seconds flat is worth the money alone. That specific shot is one of the top 5 I've ever seen, and I'm a sucker for really ill shots.

    Helen is played by Diane Kruger, some German actress. Absolutely beautiful, but pretty damn expressionless.

    Yeah, the gods don't play much of a role, they stick more to a metaphorical/worship level rather than them physically getting involved. On the one hand it would have been ill to show some god power, on the other it presents more of a possible reality of an incredible event, the kind that gets twisted into supernatural myths like the Iliad or the Old Testament do.

    In terms of drama, the movie tries incredibly hard to lure you in and impress you, but the only moment it ever achieves this is when Priam confronts Achilles. The rest of the time it's just a little too distant... it fails where Gladiator succeeded immensely.