Ckit Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 is it morally bad or good? what does it contribute to the human experiecne and what does it take away? im stuck on an essay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 it takes away your soul. diabolical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 oh man...you have room to write about anything from the entire political perspective here. example: A) harmless B) harmfull C) kill your tv :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckit Posted December 4, 2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2004 sorry for this thread. ive talked to a wide variety of people who have stirred up some thought. it was just hard getting to the harmless point of view when im a kill your television kind of guy. thanks anyway for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I'm going to make this thread happen. (by ranting) The best thing I ever did was annex my TV. The TV has it's own room and is NOT in the living room. Sure this is similar to most midwest suburban houses where the living room is reserved for special functions and the kids have to go to the basement to watch TV, but I swear it's way better than that. Now my tv-junkie roomate will sit in that room and leave the rest of the place to me. Annex your TV. When I have guests over I can tell a lot about them by their immediate reaction to my not having a TV in plain sight. Some people look totally uncomfortable as if they just dont know what life is like without a TV buzzing away in the room. Other people will do the oposite and just seem way more comfortable without having to fight a TV for the attention of the room. Really.... Not having a TV as the centerpiece of your house changes everything. The flicker of a TV screen is soothing to the eyes and that's why it's so hard not to look at one when it's on. Putting a TV in a room will kill that room for any other purpose. I really think people are just so dependent on nosie in this era of hyperactivity that they cant just sit in silence and relax. The TV is the answer. Televison IS the drug of the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 ^i've been after that song for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 there should be a new pbs. the Porn broadcasting network....and it should be free, just like the old PBS. and no crappy 70's porn with hairy muffs. and they should hand out pudding cups to everyone who watches it...just send people out into the cities of america with boxes of that shit...door to fucking door, if you have the new pbs on, you get pudding cups...if you don't, you get a hammer to the knee cap. seriously, i think television has its benefits. it's not something that should be left on constantly, though. i still an't get over going to some peoples houses and seeing a tv in every fucking room...even bathrooms....kitchens(the last great escape has be taken away)....everywhere....why? anyhow, i'm really pissed about discovery and tlc changing their formats to all these home and garden type shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 what? Discover is now 90% motorcycles and 10% sharkweek. Even A&E is getting into some sleaze programming. I want my Poirot mysterys!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckit Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 no poirot mysteries??!?!? the world is truely ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Hercules... Anyway, i rarely watch TV..i mean, i watch dvd's and football matches for the most part..sometimes when i work i just keep music channels playing mute. I like the light that comes from a tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Originally posted by casekonly@Dec 4 2004, 03:07 PM anyhow, i'm really pissed about discovery and tlc changing their formats to all these home and garden type shows. Quoted post Yes the dumbing down and watering down has even affected the last bastions of intelligentsia on television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 *Your brainwave activity is constantly shifting and changing during the day and night. Virtually every form of mental and physical activity will cause changes in this activity. Abrupt, unexpected noises or other events will quickly alter your brainwave patterns. Even watching TV can dramatically alter brainwave activity in an undirected manner. "The 'Mulholland' experiment in the early 70's wired ten kids to electroencephalograph (EEG) machines (which measure brain wave activity) and sat them down in front of their chosen favourite programmes. He expected to see plenty of fast beta waves, which would indicate that they were actively responding to something (as is produced when reading or during conservation); instead all he could find were the slower alpha waves of the kind found when a person is in a coma or put in a trance where the subject is not interacting with the outside world at all." More than providing us with an analysis which links the dumbing down of the working class and its children by these electronic drug dealers, TEST CARD F also hammers away at the notion, popular among a semi-conscious left, that if it can somehow manipulate its collective mug in front of the TV camera, it'll be able to sway an otherwise torpid proletariat to vigorous anti-capitalist activity. Nothing could be further from the truth, according to TEST CARD F's authors. When was the last time you seized the moment after watching something on TV, short of breaking out your credit card to help the Mobil Corporation sponsor "Masterpiece Theatre" on the so-called Public Broadcasting System? To attempt to create a show for the televendors is to fall into the trap of becoming mere court jesters of capital as opposed to its grave diggers. Much of the left wastes its time mired in schemes from community access television, to parade monitoring at anti-war marches in vain attempts to gain respectability and their own "market share". In reality, they become more fertilizer for the latest spin on the opiate of the people. Instead of being concerned about how to get on television and then going home to watch to see whether one has made the 11 o'clock newscasts, the authors suggest that it would be more effective to engage in the class struggle any which way you can without regard to how or even whether it will play in the televised images being beamed to the comatose of Peoria. As the authors point out, "All news coverage is encoded to enforce the myth that we live in a society where the bond that unites the worker and the boss is an (sic) national economic interest, stronger than the divide between labour and capital." Thus, the working class is reduced to the wanking class in front of the boob-tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkab Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 you might wonder if the internet is much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 it is better. tv's function is to sell things..products, ideas, emotions, people, sex, morals.. the internet is more of a free for all library at home..without the atrocious onslaught of advertising..but..i'm sure there is an argument for the pitfalls of internet browsing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 The only problem i see with the internet is the same with everything you have control over. When you have to make all desicions theres not much space for surprise..like, coming home drunk at 4 am open the tv and just to an awesome movie you never knew about. wait..the biggest problem with the internet is that you're being monitored but that another story. Anyway, i have pay tv at home so i exclusively watch a) movies with no ads inbetween and b) discovery unsober channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 The television in and of itself is neither moral nor immoral. It's an appliance. The programming on TV, however, is different. It can be used to "bring things home" to people in a way that was previously impossible (think of the protests during the black's rights movement and the war in Vietnam). It can break down stereotypes and foster understanding between people (think of the Cosby Show and Sesame Street). On the other hand, it can destroy our attention spans (for every hour more than one a day a kid watches TV, he is 10% more likely to develop ADD) and pander to our lowest desires (Survior, Fear Factor, Extreme Makeovers, the Swan, Nip/Tuck, the list goes on). It all really comes down to who's watching and what's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseguy Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 TV is fine, the problem is when people blindly accept as fact, what they see on the idiot box. everything is mediated by commercial and political interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 when I was a child my Mom would get the newspaper TV book and I would have to highlight any programs I wanted to watch and check with her on sundays to get my picks okay'd. She pick about half the shows so I'd get about 1 hour of TV perday. Thing is.... she only watched about 1 hour of TV per week so it wasn't a case of 'do as I say not as I do'. I would go over to friends houses and it seemed like there was always a TV playing. They'd flip channels after a show was over and find something else to watch. This blew my mind!!!!! I was so used to turning the TV off after a show was over. In hindsight, I'm so thankful that my Mom did this. A link to a great book on the subject of children and Televison excert: Meaningful learning -- the kind that will equip our children and our society for the uncertain challenges of the future -- occurs at the intersection of developmental readiness, curiosity, and significant subject matter. Yet many of today's youngsters, at all socioeconomic levels, are blocked from this goal by detours erected in our culture, schools, and homes. Fast-paced lifestyles, coupled with heavy media diets of visual immediacy, beget brains misfitted to traditional modes of academic learning. In a recent survey, teachers in both the United States and Europe reported overwhelmingly that today's students have shorter attention spans, are less able to reason analytically, to express ideas verbally, and to attend to complex problems. Meanwhile, school curricula modes of instruction do little to remedy the deficits by engaging either attention or curiosity. The result? A growing educational "crisis" of misfit between children and their schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 you'd be floored by the research out there key.. my lady did her masters partly on the nexus of media, corporations and children..i've read some atrocious things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 ^ i'd believe it. the problem with all these technologies in our society. is that they have been accepted on a mass scale. with too little debate. without any type of consciouss intelligent contract being entered into by anyone. other then them simply purchasing a television out of capitalist desire. vast majority of people never analyze the television, or what it stands for. vast majority of people find it ok to utilize countless hours of their life sitting in passivity watching a box flicker at 60hz with various moving images that ultimately contribute nothing to that persons life other then a temporary escape from reality. the television serves as a pre-cursor the school system which also demands passivity. and the work system which also demands passive behaviour. amongst most people in most places even questioning the very nature of the television will bring social ridicule. they say what are you talking about? "mind control , propaganda, alpha and beta waves, huh? "thats a conspiracy theory, whats the news on cnm today?" But what does this word television mean? "tele - vision " what? a vision coming from the tele? a vision of what? 3 entries found for tele. tele- or tel- pref. 1. Distance; distant: telesthesia. 8 entries found for vision. vi·sion Audio pronunciation of "vision" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vzhn) n. 1. 1. The faculty of sight; eyesight: poor vision. 2. Something that is or has been seen. 2. Unusual competence in discernment or perception; intelligent foresight: a leader of vision. 3. The manner in which one sees or conceives of something. 4. A mental image produced by the imagination. 5. The mystical experience of seeing as if with the eyes the supernatural or a supernatural being. 6. A person or thing of extraordinary beauty. Compilation: reception of poor vision from a distance while being a mystical experience with conception of something. If people watch TV more then they attend church does television become God? © metallix 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckit Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 Originally posted by metallix@Dec 8 2004, 06:28 AM If people watch TV more then they attend church does television become God? © metallix 2004 Quoted post television is god for so many people. they obey it in every aspect in their lives. television tells women they must be skinnier. and many listen. that parents need to force drugs upon children with ADD (a disease caused by television). people dont even hold political beliefs of their own any more. it is so easy for them to just turn on CNN and hear what their "expert" has to say and take that as truth. television has eroded on of the most valuable things in our lives. our minds. and like metallix said we even question it. we just continue to stare at the flickering lights, watching this false reality that we cannot even hope to model our own lives after. another good book to check out is Culture Jam, by Kalle Lasn (the man behind adbusters mag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dniice Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 i dont get any porn, dont care about the news and i dont like football so i dont watch tv except for some car shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODS-1 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 As long as I'm learning something or having a chuckle at some intelligent humor (Humor that you have to understand world events to get), I'm cool with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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