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TOPICS & SUBJECTS FOR 12oz BOOKS

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by misteraven, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. misteraven

    misteraven Administrator

    Joined: May 7, 1999 Messages: 8,700 Likes Received: 264
    With 12ozPROPHET now returning to the world of publishing, I was curious what topics, artists, writers, etc people were interested in. In general we've always tried to march to our own beat, but it doesn't hurt to hear what people are interested in. If all goes well, we plan to release the ALSO KNOWN AS series of books twice a year or so, but there's also been some debate about doing an artist series of books or something similar. Anyhow, I figure it would be a good subject of discussion to see who people are interested, why, and how many others agree.
     
  2. !@#$%

    !@#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 621
    i wish i saw/heard more about writers that put in work but don't tend to attract a lot of media attention.

    there are plenty of writers out there that seem to be magazine and book favorites, and it seems like much of the graffiti books and mags gravitate towards those people, of course that's because a lot of em are dope and they deserve it, but i think there's a lot of cats out there putting in a lot of work, good work, but still flying under the radar in terms of recognition.

    twelve ounce already did a good job of that, such as with writers like os gemeos.
    it would be cool to see that type of coverage for all areas, not just areas that are pretty new to the graffiti scene.

    and if there are going to be interviews, i hope that the interviews aren't only about writing and chase stories and crew beef and shit like that.
     
  3. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    what symbols said.

    i'd like to see twelve ounce break some (more) boundaries.
     
  4. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    it would take some work, but I would really dig history lessons.
    Not like the history of 'the scene' but more like the history of
    certain tools or elements that are part of what we do.

    for example:

    aka aerosol - paint can history / trades / brands / collectors etc

    certainly the spray paint can is essential to what we do,
    so it would be interesting to see a bit more on the original '12oz prophet'
     
  5. Hermdog

    Hermdog Elite Member

    Joined: Nov 6, 2003 Messages: 4,504 Likes Received: 9
    More Quality Graff Photos....

    I know that seems obvious but certain magazines that will remain unnamed have too many advertisements and articles; meanwhile neglecting the photos it was known for...
     
  6. The Leader

    The Leader Senior Member

    Joined: Jan 23, 2005 Messages: 1,591 Likes Received: 1
    I have nothing to contribute other than the bajillion potential babies I just splattered all over my computer screen.
     
  7. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

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    hermdog saying that reminds me...quality ads are essential. not just folks who will throw in money for some ad space, but quality companies who are tried and true.
     
  8. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    a stolen excert on the history of spray paint:
    • The concept of an aerosol originated as early as 1790, when self-pressurized carbonated beverages were introduced in France. In 1837, a man called Perpigna invented a soda siphon incorporating a valve. In 1899, inventors Helbling and Pertsch patented aerosols pressurized using methyl and ethyl chloride as propellants.

      On November 23, 1927, Norwegian engineer Erik Rotheim (also spelled Eric Rotheim) patented the first aerosol can and valve that could hold and dispense products and propellant systems. This was the forerunner of the modern aerosol can and valve. (In 1998, the Norwegian post office issued a stamp celebrating the Norwegian invention of the spraycan.)

      During World War II, the U.S. government funded research into a portable way for service men to spray malaria-carrying bugs. Department of Agriculture researchers, Lyle Goodhue and William Sullivan, developed a small aerosol can pressurized by a liquefied gas (a fluorocarbon) in 1943. It was their design that made products like hair spray possible, along with the work of another inventor. In 1953, Robert Abplanal invented a crimp-on valve "for dispensing gases under pressure." This put the manufacture of aerosol spray can products into high gear. Abplanal had created the first clog-free valve for spray cans. Abplanal also invented the "Aquasol" or pump spray, which uses water-soluble hydrocarbons as the propellant source. He realized that the fluorocarbons in the older aerosol cans damaged the ozone layer.
    a history of brands, colours, can and tip design, innovations and modifications......


    + mixing paints, profiles on writers who have custom colours made,
    writers thoughts on brands (rusto silver vs. all the rest) etc etc etc:

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    ------- montana custom colours:

    KENT Heat Red WT 01
    ATOM Napalm Orange WT 02
    KACAO 77 Glow Green WT 03
    DASH Nile Blue WT 04
    BATES Power Pink WT 05
    MINS Rebel Apricot WT 06
    Mr. Maks Banana WT 07
    CAN2 Blue WT 08




    ---- I'm goign to shut up now. I've made my point and will let others add to it.
     
  9. The Leader

    The Leader Senior Member

    Joined: Jan 23, 2005 Messages: 1,591 Likes Received: 1
    Also, I would LOVE to see key's idea come into effect.
     
  10. dojafx

    dojafx Member

    Joined: Nov 20, 2001 Messages: 831 Likes Received: 0
    witht he magazine ro book that comes out, include a bonus dvd of some live action type shit, and have rappers and djs in it too, they can freestyle.
     
  11. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 40
    i think symbols summed it up perfectly.
    i havent bought a north american magazine in like 4 years, simply because theyre boring, and im tired of basically the same mag, with the same writers, over and over. no more magazine favourites please. theres alot of people doing alot of stuff, and getting not enough recognition for it.
     
  12. 26SidedCube

    26SidedCube Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 6,590 Likes Received: 9
    It'd be weird it 12oz ventured into non-graffiti related texts in the same vein as all those Time-Life "How-To" books. In theory it could help 12oz break into more 'accessable' content if each were to focus on something completely different. It could then be tied into graffiti to show that while we're a bunch of delinquent retards with chips on our shoulders we also care to learn about things outside of our own selfish destruction.

    Hell, the only reason I even thought of that is because a chunk of 12oz doesn't even do graffiti and a few of them are the board's most appreciated members.

    This is probably too much, though.
     
  13. 26SidedCube

    26SidedCube Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 18, 2003 Messages: 6,590 Likes Received: 9
    P.S. Give Mero a job.
     
  14. misteraven

    misteraven Administrator

    Joined: May 7, 1999 Messages: 8,700 Likes Received: 264
    no need to worry about crappy advertisers... there will be no advertising.
     
  15. dojafx

    dojafx Member

    Joined: Nov 20, 2001 Messages: 831 Likes Received: 0
    Yeah, you should have mero do commentaries on shit in there too.
    in all caps
     
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